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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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May 11th

You are not any thought, feeling, reaction, role, identity, title, job position, belief, perspective or any other thing that appears within the field of awareness. You are that which sees those objects. You are what is looking. Notice any and all objects that arise in the field of awareness. See that none of those objects are you. Once you realize yourself as that which is looking, and no longer mistake yourself to be any object in awareness, you know who you truly are.

You know that no description, concept, thought, story, or belief can ever capture who you truly are, not even the words "awareness" or "oneness." Even the phrase "you are what is looking" is an object in awareness. The words human being, enlightenment, child of God, Christian, Muslim, Hindu, spiritual seeker or spiritual teacher are little stories or relative truths. They too are objects floating in awareness. You are not any of those thoughts. Thoughts are abstractions. They are signs or ideas pointing to an unnamable presence that is here prior to, during, and after thoughts arise and fall. No matter what you think about life, yourself, or God, that thought is temporarily arising and falling in awareness.

Do you see that you are a mystery? Do you see that even the word "mystery" is an abstraction, a little idea arising and falling in the field of awareness?


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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There is no one in the room. All there is is what is happening.

This idea gave me a glimpse of understanding that made my eyes a little teary... Thanks for this one.  :sunny:

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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appleorange said:
Even the phrase "you are what is looking" is an object in awareness.



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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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Is the idea of an 'object' an 'object' in an awareness? These are fantastic thought exercises, but they still require a syntax to be understood by whatever we are, or I are, as happening right a few seconds ago before I finished this sentence?

Can we think of the 'syntax', (mathematics for physics, dialect for locality, language for region; things that outlast the participants that express their perspective as individual), as some dormant tortoise that lives for hundreds of years opposed to ourselves as human beings that can expect nowhere above 140*365 days to look from this perspective? And is that a simile or a metaphor, according to today's syntax?

If all of this is "oneness", than is there room somewhere we, (as one), cannot see where we might find: (twoness), (threeness), (fourness), (negative nthness), (square-root of negative 1ness)? Would they all be "happening" at a similar rate?

The way this perspective sees it, many people in that room on that video stopped looking as they were given this information. That relates to this perspective as religion often does, to placate the desire to look at the uncomfortable thoughts with a looping belief, ("This is all happening, there is no one"). What if there IS another one? What if there is a (negative square-root of one) amount of other 'ones' capable of 'oneness'?

Keep this thread coming.



~Monk

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: numonkei] * 1
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If all of this is "oneness", than is there room somewhere we, (as one), cannot see where we might find: (twoness), (threeness), (fourness), (negative nthness), (square-root of negative 1ness)? Would they all be "happening" at a similar rate?


The idea of an object is still the idea of an object in awareness. Just as the idea of awareness is still an idea in the awareness itself. Which is why you often hear of 'this' referred to as the nameless, unborn, or that which cannot be spoken of.

Lao Tzu said:

The Tao produced the One.
The One produced the two.
The two produced the three.
And the three produced The Ten Thousand Things.

While 'this' all appears separate and fragmented, no "thing" exists in and of itself apart from the totality. All divisions and separations are mind-made and exist only as a concept still within the totality itself.

Just look at your own conception for example, when did you officially become a person?

1. As an unfertilized egg?
2. A fertilized egg?
3. 2 weeks after conception?
4. 2 months after conception?
5. Or when your mother actually gave birth to you?

If we could film the process of conception, beginning with the fertilized egg and ending with the person's birth, at one point in the film could you say "stop! this is when I officially became a person!"

Or take a chair being eaten away by termites for example. If you just quietly watched termites eating away at a chair, at what point could you say "stop! this chair is officially no longer a chair!"

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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Keep this thread coming.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: Kickle]
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Numonkei,

Here's something you can practice in your spare time.

Next time you go outside, look at a flower. While looking at the flower imagine something in your mind, it can be anything, a car, a house, a friend, whatever.

Notice that the flower you are looking at and the image in your mind are both seen simultaneously. Where is the line that divides the thoughts in your mind from the objects you perceive outside of your self?

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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I like that exercise!

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: Arden]
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Yeah, very interesting indeed.  :congrats:


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: Kickle]
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May 12th

The ego is unconscious and therefore blind to its own conflict and its habitual tendency to project that conflict out into the world. It makes itself right and others wrong including other people, religions, belief systems, political parties, and countries. The world is a reflection of the egoic mind. The healing of the conflict in the world does not occur through activism if that activism is itself oppositional and based in right versus wrong. True healing occurs through non-dual realization.

In each instance in which there is attachment to a belief that separates those who buy into the belief from those who do not, a separate identity is created. There is a sense of self invested in that belief system. You create an illusory mental boundary between yourself and others. In that moment, you are conflict itself. In seeing the conflict within your own mind the moment it arises, the mind quiets. You realize your natural state as peace. When peace is realized within, you are no longer projecting conflict out into the world.



Imagine there's no Heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us only sky
Imagine all the people
Living for today

Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion too
Imagine all the people
Living life in peace

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one

Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world

You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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May 13th

The ego is simply mind movement. It is an escape from present awareness into past, future, and resistance to now. It is escape into a mental and emotional dream that creates a center called "you." This center sees itself as separate from others and from the rest of life. In order to keep self-centeredness alive, the dream has to keep dreaming itself. It does this through more escaping. Escape is resistance to what is.

Resistance, depression, and anxiety can be your greatest teacher though. It reveals the details of the mental and emotional self-centered story.

"When Heaven wants to perfect a great man, it tries him in every possible way until he comes out triumphantly from all his painful experiences."

-Mencius


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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"Life isn't yours. You are life."

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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May 14th

In the egoic dream, you believe that life is supposed to be the way you think it should be. Your story of self is being projected out into the world. For example, thought tells you that the car in front of you should be driving faster. In reality, that car is moving at exactly the speed it is moving.

Thought tells you that your wife should not bitch about you never lowering the toilet seat. In reality, your wife is doing exactly what she is doing.

To argue with what is arising right now is insane. Your thoughts of others seem to be objectively true but they aren't. They result from an interpretation that is entirely personal. This personal interpretation is like a filter through which life is viewed. That filter is constantly arguing with what is. This mental arguing is a recipe for suffering and conflict. It creates a separation that is not really there.

Unconditional love, peace, and freedom are realized when you see this dream of self as it is being projected outward.


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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May 15th

I'm writing this letter to you today as a bird. It's a good day to be a bird, spring is here, the sun is shining and I am singing a beautiful song for all the world to hear. Unfortunately, my friend is a little delusional this morning, somehow he got it into his head that he is a monk.

I exclaimed how nice it was of him to fetch me straw and help build this nest of ours, but he just cast me a glance and mumbled "what the hell are you talking about..." Since when could birds speak I say! I thought that was something only monks could do.

Let's pretend we're monks again appleorange for the sake of understanding. Bird speak is a little confusing for most.

You see, monks have bought into this idea of subjectivity and objectivity. Which basically means that they believe they are a person inside a body perceiving a world that is outside the body. The idea seems plausible enough at first, but it quickly gives way under a little scrutiny and common sense.

Imagine you are being born for the first time. It is morning in this particular case and some birds are chirping outside your window. No knowledge has come into your possession as of yet, you are a blank slate, pristine unadulterated awareness. Everything around you "just is." You're not sure what the feet in front of you even are, let alone where they end and where the bed begins. You haven't even tried to move your feet yet because you don't even know that they are "your" feet.

Your attention is suddenly drawn to the birds chirping outside. In this moment, could you say that the birds are any less you than the feet you see in front? If so, how? What could possibly differentiate your feet from the birds' song? Only the idea that they are "your" feet I imagine.

We could all be birds, but most people settle for being feet sadly, or even worse, a monk.


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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:lol:

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: Arden]
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May 16th

Spirituality is not separate from the rest of life. Thought tends to fragment life into illusory compartments, separated by illusory boundaries. For example, to thought, there is a clear distinction between "working" and "spiritual practice." It is very easy to believe that spirituality is happening only when you are meditating, reading a spiritual book, or chanting.

There is only one spirit, animating all of life in a beautiful array of forms. Notice the ways in which you are acting as if your spiritual life or practice is somehow separate from your work life, personal life, or family life. Only the mind makes these illusory distinctions. It believes that meditation is spiritual but work is not, or chanting is spiritual but sex is not, or a monastery is spiritual but a sidewalk is not. These illusory distinctions keep the mind fragmented and lost in its incessant compartmentalization of life into spiritual versus non-spiritual and right versus wrong. Thought then seeks those things that it believes will make the self more spiritual. The very act of spiritual searching is a denial of the spirit permeating all of life. In presence, it is realized that the idea that you must practice being spiritual or that spirit is "here" but not "there" is seen as just that... an idea.


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: appleorange]
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Yes! Mooji was the icing on the cake for that one, :sun:

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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: c0sm0nautt]
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Its so amazing how a subtle reminding from a being like Mooji can just wipe the mind clean instantly
Just remembering that this cavorting 'I' that poses as subjectivity, is not the pure subjectivity
Its an object that can never become Awareness
Theres no separate 'me' that can become Awareness
I am That Awareness

That is the true position, not trying to become that
Abiding as That
Oh mind...

Theres an intimate satsang at Moojis home tonight :grin:

:peace:


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Re: Daily Meditations With Appleorange May 6th [Re: Chronic7]
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Please, send me a bag of Mooji.

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