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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: JackofSpades]
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Enlightenment is an unobtainable goal your ego dangles in front of you, to distract and oppress the mind!  For all I know being enlightened means your book is selling well enough to afford all the sex, drugs, and rock and roll the ego can consume!

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: C.M. Mann]
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:lol:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Icelander]
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it's just like everyday life except you feel about 2 inches above the ground.


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“The person lives most beautifully who does not reflect upon existence” - Friedrich Nietzsche

"Change my mind so much I can't even trust it. My mind changes me so much I can't even trust myself."

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? *DELETED* [Re: Realized]
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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Lakefingers]
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I think enlightenment is like this:

1. You see that your subjective feelings distort your vision of reality.

2. You find a way to see objectively, free from all fear and desires from the past and of the future.

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Realized]
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Curious you say that. How about being a small distance away from yourself? Kind of like 'this is not happening' attitude... or am i confusing states of mind here?

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Ahimsa]
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I'm not sure I know what you mean

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Freedom]
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this might be a good description of the problem enlightenment is trying to solve:

Quote:
The enhanced ability of humans to think their way out of problems thus led to a surprising new activity -- escape from the realm of reality into a world inhabited by beliefs.


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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Freedom]
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including death?

like I wouldn't the true way to achieve enlightenment just be to sit there and starve to death?


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If you're frightened of dying and  you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the earth.

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: JackofSpades]
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you mean without fear and desire you wouldn't be motivated to eat?

I guess the answer to that is that there is a basic goodness that is seperate from fear desire and good bad. For example eating good healthy food is different from gorging on doughnuts for pleasure.

so i guess its that desire for pleasure that I am talking about, or even the desire for basic goodness if you think basic goodness will give you pleasure.

I'm sure you can tear this idea to pieces but if your looking to understand what it is people call enlightenment I think it is close to what I said, although I certainly don't get it.

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Freedom]
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Freedom said:
this might be a good description of the problem enlightenment is trying to solve:

Quote:
The enhanced ability of humans to think their way out of problems thus led to a surprising new activity -- escape from the realm of reality into a world inhabited by beliefs.




Think you are on to something here. But if you think on that quote one might be convinced that enlightenment is basic animal behavior. The problem being then of course that violence is a big part of that. Then we are led to the possible conclusion that the search for enlightenment is an attempt to escape from life as it is.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: JackofSpades]
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Is it possible that we are already enlightened?

Maybe we need to be like regan said to gorbechav, and " tear down those walls"


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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Icelander]
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Icelander said:
Freedom said:
this might be a good description of the problem enlightenment is trying to solve:

Quote:
The enhanced ability of humans to think their way out of problems thus led to a surprising new activity -- escape from the realm of reality into a world inhabited by beliefs.




Think you are on to something here. But if you think on that quote one might be convinced that enlightenment is basic animal behavior. The problem being then of course that violence is a big part of that. Then we are led to the possible conclusion that the search for enlightenment is an attempt to escape from life as it is.



true. I'll let you know all about it once I'm enlightened. But then I'll probably just say something like, "you don't gain anything in the end".

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Freedom]
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You're not enlightened? I'm putting you on ignore.:evil:


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: cyb3rtr0n]
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cyb3rtr0n said:
Is it possible that we are already enlightened?

Maybe we need to be like regan said to gorbechav, and " tear down those walls"



That's a good question. At times I think that it would not be possible for a human to reach enlightenment. Sure you learn and integrate awareness and cultivate wisdom. But enlightenment is such a subjective term. Its one of those terms that gets examined and dissected all over the ages by philosophers, sages and gurus. It would be impossible to measure all aspects of what enlightenment entails, I would think. Its like people who try to describe what/who God is. Perhaps wondering about it though, demeans the real meaning behind what Enlightenment should feel like. And perhaps its just well to be left alone to the individual to experience. And to go into whether or not it is apart of oneself already, seems to remain a mystery. I hear and read about so many people claiming to have reached enlightenment. But I wonder, If it is even possible to keep that level of consciousness active indefinite?

But perhaps there are walls that needed to be brought down before we just realize what we already have. Isn't it Buddha who says Those who let go; See clearly?


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When the many become the One

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Sadhguru]
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A basic concept of Buddhism is that buddha nature is inherent in all of us, that it is already there waiting to be found.

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Freedom]
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Everyone is already enlightened.  All it takes to know what it is, is to stop doing everything else.

Edited by xFrockx (12/10/09 09:53 PM)

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: xFrockx]
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Quote:
Thought, no matter how elevated or holy it may seem, is no more a sacred product of the nervous system than defecation is a sacred product of the digestive system.

:grin:

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: xFrockx]
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xFrockx said:
Everyone is already enlightened.  All it takes to know what it is, is to stop doing everything else.



:lol: Ya gotta love quotes like this.


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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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Re: What Would Enlightenment Be Like? [Re: Icelander]
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just imagine you are all right,
and that it doesn't particularly matter,
and that the next breath is as clear as the last


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:brainfart: _ :finger:

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