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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: z_x_x_z]
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NOT scripture:

2 Esdras(Pseudepigrapha):

Keep adding false books to God's Word.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: z_x_x_z]
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dr. gonz said:
get the fuck out of my thread poid.


Gladly. :snub:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: z_x_x_z]
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dr_gonz said:
why do christians believe that their god is the only way to happiness? it's sick.



I would say less the way to happiness and more to the way of contentment, truth and eventual release from this disturbing reality

we are in the process of a learning process

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    #11406079 -

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
NOT scripture:

2 Esdras(Pseudepigrapha):

Keep adding false books to God's Word.



all Calvinist's reject 2 Esdras lol

reasoning?

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Life Upon Death said:
dr_gonz said:
why do christians believe that their god is the only way to happiness? it's sick.



I would say less the way to happiness and more to the way of contentment, truth and eventual release from this disturbing reality

we are in the process of a learning process



Christians are all stupid as fuck. :sheepie:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Life Upon Death said:
fivepointer said:
The "choice" gospel is utterly FALSE.  It is salvation by works.  It gives the person boasting power (they make better choices than others).  It denies original sin and the fallen nature of man.  It is a damnable heresy.



so go on tell everyone what you believe

that God selected you and rejected others...

yes or no?

spare me the rhetoric as well

I've heard it all a million times before and it hasn't convinced me thus far

Calvinist won't even tell you what they believe, they refer you to windy posts by "prestigious" theologians

this is either because they don't really understand what they apparently believe or because they are afraid of putting their beliefs out there because of the holes they are filled with



I never quote theologians as a source.  I am more than happy to plainly tell you what I believe.  Don't assume I am like everyone else you have dealt with in the past.

God does indeed select one and not another, deal with it.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: z_x_x_z]
    #11406103 -

dr_gonz said:
see, my point exactly. admitted "christians" don't even interpret the "message" the same way.

human beings :facepalm:




Galations 1:

6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting (L)Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a (M)different gospel;

7which is really not another; only there are some who are (N)disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

8But even if we, or (O)an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be (P)accursed!

2 Peter 3:

15and regard the (AP)patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also (AQ)our beloved brother Paul, (AR)according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,

16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of (AS)these things, (AT)in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and (AU)unstable distort, as they do also (AV)the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17You therefore, (AW)beloved, knowing this beforehand, (AX)be on your guard so that you are not carried away by (AY)the error of (AZ)unprincipled men and (BA)fall from your own steadfastness,

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: fivepointer]
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fivepointer said:
God does indeed select one and not another, deal with it.


You would have to prove that "God" even exists before this statement could be considered to be true, deal with it. :haha:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

Edited by Poid (11/07/09 04:33 PM)

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Life Upon Death]
    #11406116 -

Life Upon Death said:
dr_gonz said:
see, my point exactly. admitted "christians" don't even interpret the "message" the same way.

human beings :facepalm:




Galations 1:

6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting (L)Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a (M)different gospel;

7which is really not another; only there are some who are (N)disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

8But even if we, or (O)an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be (P)accursed!

2 Peter 3:

15and regard the (AP)patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also (AQ)our beloved brother Paul, (AR)according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,

16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of (AS)these things, (AT)in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and (AU)unstable distort, as they do also (AV)the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17You therefore, (AW)beloved, knowing this beforehand, (AX)be on your guard so that you are not carried away by (AY)the error of (AZ)unprincipled men and (BA)fall from your own steadfastness,


Why are you posting this mystical nonsense here in PS&P? :what:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: fivepointer]
    #11406127 -

fivepointer said:
Life Upon Death said:
fivepointer said:
The "choice" gospel is utterly FALSE.  It is salvation by works.  It gives the person boasting power (they make better choices than others).  It denies original sin and the fallen nature of man.  It is a damnable heresy.



so go on tell everyone what you believe

that God selected you and rejected others...

yes or no?

spare me the rhetoric as well

I've heard it all a million times before and it hasn't convinced me thus far

Calvinist won't even tell you what they believe, they refer you to windy posts by "prestigious" theologians

this is either because they don't really understand what they apparently believe or because they are afraid of putting their beliefs out there because of the holes they are filled with



I never quote theologians as a source.  I am more than happy to plainly tell you what I believe.  Don't assume I am like everyone else you have dealt with in the past.

God does indeed select one and not another, deal with it.



ok so explain for everyone how God could desire everyone to come to the knowledge of the truth and be saved and yet choose not to save some Himself before the foundation of the world

are you saying God is not capable or willing to do what He desires?

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Poid]
    #11406132 -

Poid said:
Life Upon Death said:
dr_gonz said:
see, my point exactly. admitted "christians" don't even interpret the "message" the same way.

human beings :facepalm:




Galations 1:

6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting (L)Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a (M)different gospel;

7which is really not another; only there are some who are (N)disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

8But even if we, or (O)an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be (P)accursed!

2 Peter 3:

15and regard the (AP)patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also (AQ)our beloved brother Paul, (AR)according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,

16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of (AS)these things, (AT)in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and (AU)unstable distort, as they do also (AV)the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17You therefore, (AW)beloved, knowing this beforehand, (AX)be on your guard so that you are not carried away by (AY)the error of (AZ)unprincipled men and (BA)fall from your own steadfastness,


Why are you posting this mystical nonsense here in PS&P? :what:



I am having a conversation with the OP

if you don't like then fuck off

plain and simple

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Life Upon Death]
    #11406147 -

Life Upon Death said:
Poid said:
Life Upon Death said:
dr_gonz said:
see, my point exactly. admitted "christians" don't even interpret the "message" the same way.

human beings :facepalm:




Galations 1:

6I am amazed that you are so quickly deserting (L)Him who called you by the grace of Christ, for a (M)different gospel;

7which is really not another; only there are some who are (N)disturbing you and want to distort the gospel of Christ.

8But even if we, or (O)an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be (P)accursed!

2 Peter 3:

15and regard the (AP)patience of our Lord as salvation; just as also (AQ)our beloved brother Paul, (AR)according to the wisdom given him, wrote to you,

16as also in all his letters, speaking in them of (AS)these things, (AT)in which are some things hard to understand, which the untaught and (AU)unstable distort, as they do also (AV)the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction.

17You therefore, (AW)beloved, knowing this beforehand, (AX)be on your guard so that you are not carried away by (AY)the error of (AZ)unprincipled men and (BA)fall from your own steadfastness,


Why are you posting this mystical nonsense here in PS&P? :what:



I am having a conversation with the OP

if you don't like then fuck off

plain and simple



It doesn't fucking matter who you're talking to, but what you're saying; if you're going to be posting crap from a religious/mystical book, then you better back it up with some sort of logical reasoning. Either that, or post it in the appropriate forum. :shrug2:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: fivepointer]
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I already explained how you twisted the 1 tim 2 verses in a previous posting.  You "all men" in context is all types of men as described in the section.  You can't see this because you have created God who is different from the one in scripture.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Poid]
    #11406157 -

Why would anyone believe in a religion that was forced upon the people violently and with no forgiveness to those that did not believe.


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:mushroom2:

I lost my mind, its somewhere out there stranded!

Read my bio.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Poid]
    #11406164 -

I am on topic

if a mod would like to relocate the thread thats their decision

until then stay on topic and stop trying to sabotage the thread

you always post off topic and yet we don't complain about that...

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Mr. Mushroom]
    #11406165 -

One reason is that they may be completely retarded. :sheepie:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Mr. Mushroom]
    #11406170 -

Mr. Mushroom said:
Why would anyone believe in a religion that was forced upon the people violently and with no forgiveness to those that did not believe.



people are fucked up thats why

we find ways of controlling and screwing up pretty much everything

that doesn't mean the gospel itself is to blame

you will find this within all human movements

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Life Upon Death]
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Life Upon Death said:
I am on topic

if a mod would like to relocate the thread thats their decision

until then stay on topic and stop trying to sabotage the thread

you always post off topic and yet we don't complain about that...


You're posting shit straight from the Bible, but you're not providing any logical evidence for it; this is a debate-oriented forum, and you posting quotes from the Bible while refraining from supporting it with logic isn't what this forum was meant for. :shake:


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Well I try my best to be just like I am, but everybody wants you to be just like them. --  Bob Dylan
fireworks_god said:
It's one thing to simply enjoy a style of life that one enjoys, but it's another thing altogether to refer to another person's choice as "wrong" or to rationalize their behavior as being pathological or resulting from some sort of inadequacy or failing so as to create a sense of superiority or separation as yet another projection of a personal fear or control issue.

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Re: Question for all the Christians around here [Re: Poid]
    #11406190 -

Poid said:
Life Upon Death said:
I am on topic

if a mod would like to relocate the thread thats their decision

until then stay on topic and stop trying to sabotage the thread

you always post off topic and yet we don't complain about that...


You're posting shit straight from the Bible, but you're not providing any logical evidence for it; this is a debate-oriented forum, and you posting quotes from the Bible while refraining from supporting it with logic isn't what this forum was meant for. :shake:



he is asking questions about the Christian religion and you think I'm not going to use scripture?

fuck off seriously...

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