Home | Community | Message Board
You are not signed in.
Sign In New Account
Forum Index Search Posts Trusted Vendors Highlights Galleries FAQ User List Chat Store Random Growery

PlanetSpores.ca
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]
Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work.
    #11168568 -

People who are lazy and jealous think it's "natural talent", it's "genetic". And will actually give people who are hard working a harder time, just because they are lucky with their talents.

Sometimes I think people fake their stupidity just for the sake of being a lazy motherfucker. They pretend they don't know this and that, so they wouldn't have to do anything about this and that.  People decide to believe intelligence is genetic, just for the sake of being able to be stupid and lose all responsibility.  Everyone is as intelligent as the other. Stupid people are simply the people who pretend to be stupid to avoid working. But they have pretended this for such a long time that they simply forgot.

All babies can learn 3 languages simultanously at birth. Face it, humans are naturally geniuses. Society turns us stupid. The only reason people deny their intelligence is because of the responsibility that comes with it. People are spoiled lazy mother fuckers who will bring the world down with them just for the purpose of being lazy.

Example: who's going to fix this?
Lazy people: I can't, I'm stupid.
Not lazy people: Sure, I'll give it a try, in the process I'll get smarter anyway.

Thoughts?

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11168596 -

Although I think most humans are capable of more than what they acheive, I do not think that genius is a matter of hard work.

It is more a matter of environment, and how a person is taught, and also how much they use their imagination.

I think genius simply refers to the case when someone is able to overcome socially-bound assumptions that prevent everyone from seeing 'the next part of the puzzle'. Geniuses are not that special, they just happen to be free of the limitations that society teaches everyone.

Why does society teach itself limitations? It is a matter of efficiency. Although there are many possibilities in the world, there is only so much time, and in order to teach people the most effective/useful/functional information, you need to teach them heuristics of thought. these heuristics are not perfect tools but rather are statistically superior to other easily-taught paradigms.

If everyone was given the opportunity to be a genius, then not much would get done.

Because there are plenty of geniuses who never work out how to share their insight with the rest of the world. Most geniuses are told that they are crazy and probably lose hope.

But I totally agree that plenty of people are lazy and prevent themselves from learning more than they need to. I think this stems from the fact that people are forced to learn things at school and thus they develop resistance, and form the idea in their heads that 'I am The Man's bitch if I spend too much effort trying to understand things'


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11170666 -

This is correct but the attitude in which it is written makes it seem the lesson is missed on the teacher.:tarzan:


--------------------
The Great Mycelium (TGMM) is more than you and me, we are all part of One.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: explosiveoxygen]
    #11170945 -

I think talent isn't just hard work, but the inclination to work hard at something.  Lots of kids could be taught to play piano, but only a prodigy would want to spend all their free time practicing.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Silversoul]
    #11170963 -

Yeah very good point, I guess without passion there wouldn't be 'hard work', well if you're passionate about something it's not really work anyway.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11171074 -

I dont think its always that way, things rarely are so cut and dry.  Some genius is a product of intense hard work and inclination - others just exude it with little effort or want at all.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: DieCommie]
    #11171759 -

laziness doesnt exist anymore... it is now called depression and adhd.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: SneezingPenis]
    #11171927 -

Ignorance does not equal stupidity.  I think you are confusing the two.


--------------------
I do not, nor will I ever manufacture or distribute a substance which is illegal in any country.  Anything I post is purely for entertainment and scientific research purposes.  It is all theory.  Nothing I post is serious and it is generally nonsense.  With that said, LEO's can go to hell.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11174541 -

I have gone over this in my head before.

I have nothing against women, but have you noticed how a majority of them can't carry on an intelligent conversation?

I think it is because they are so obsessed with how they look in other peoples eyes. They think that guys want the ditsy pretty girl that has trouble doing any kind of task by themselves. They act like they can't do school work and choose not to understand it for so long that they actually begin to not understand.

This is not only women. I had a close friend named nick that this happened to. In 6Th grade he was one of the smartest kids I had ever met. But he noticed when he acted dumb people thought it was funny. He kept on this false persona for so long that he actually became dumb. He now struggles with basic math, has trouble spelling anything other than his name, and never graduated high school and probably never will.


--------------------
If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11174624 -

Diaboleros said:
People who are lazy and jealous think it's "natural talent", it's "genetic". And will actually give people who are hard working a harder time, just because they are lucky with their talents.

Sometimes I think people fake their stupidity just for the sake of being a lazy motherfucker. They pretend they don't know this and that, so they wouldn't have to do anything about this and that.  People decide to believe intelligence is genetic, just for the sake of being able to be stupid and lose all responsibility.  Everyone is as intelligent as the other. Stupid people are simply the people who pretend to be stupid to avoid working. But they have pretended this for such a long time that they simply forgot.

All babies can learn 3 languages simultanously at birth. Face it, humans are naturally geniuses. Society turns us stupid. The only reason people deny their intelligence is because of the responsibility that comes with it. People are spoiled lazy mother fuckers who will bring the world down with them just for the purpose of being lazy.

Example: who's going to fix this?
Lazy people: I can't, I'm stupid.
Not lazy people: Sure, I'll give it a try, in the process I'll get smarter anyway.

Thoughts?


I have had many people become frustrated and hostile towards me just because I do not speak the way they do.

They find it confrontational and haughty to aspire to be creative in my use of language, that I should see the recycled catch phrases and anecdotal use of our language as disgusting.

Many seem to have it in their minds that if I should use words in a concise and exacting manner, that I am somehow trying to tell them that they are inferior.


--------------------
The Mad Shroomer said:
People are always promising the apocalypse. They never deliver. :frown:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Wasteland]
    #11174632 -

Wasteland said:
I have had many people become frustrated and hostile towards me just because I do not speak the way they do.

They find it confrontational and haughty to aspire to be creative in my use of language, that I should see the recycled catch phrases and anecdotal use of our language as disgusting.

Many seem to have it in their minds that if I should use words in a concise and exacting manner, that I am somehow trying to tell them that they are inferior.



You might speak in a condescending tone?


--------------------
If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11174651 -

I do not believe so.


--------------------
The Mad Shroomer said:
People are always promising the apocalypse. They never deliver. :frown:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11174652 -

I have nothing against women, but have you noticed how a majority of them can't carry on an intelligent conversation?


I find the reverse to be true in spades. Take the Shroomery as an example. Few women would respect the level of conversation that goes on here as a whole.

Ever thought it's the kind of women who are hanging around you and not women in general?


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Wasteland]
    #11174662 -

I have a friend in your situation. He sees nothing wrong in what he does. He doesn't understand why people get pissed. But he is constantly correcting people, whether it's their grammar, or just something they are talking about. It is very annoying and it is hard to spend more than 3 hours with him without getting pissed. He always talks down to people but he doesn't realize it.


--------------------
If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Icelander]
    #11174672 -

Icelander said:
I have nothing against women, but have you noticed how a majority of them can't carry on an intelligent conversation?


I find the reverse to be true in spades. Take the Shroomery as an example. Few women would respect the level of conversation that goes on here as a whole.

Ever thought it's the kind of women who are hanging around you and not women in general?


The women in here are here becuase they are not like the others. That is why I said most.

I also would not have said it if I didn't see it in most women in general. I don't hang around with women like this because it is frustrating.


--------------------
If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11174686 -

Justin_c17 said:
I have a friend in your situation. He sees nothing wrong in what he does. He doesn't understand why people get pissed. But he is constantly correcting people, whether it's their grammar, or just something they are talking about. It is very annoying and it is hard to spend more than 3 hours with him without getting pissed. He always talks down to people but he doesn't realize it.


I fully recognize the irritation that can cause.
Though, it does not apply to me.
I correct no-one.

I have been told I "don't know how to get to that what-the-fuck level", or as another had said, "you use your words too much."

(although he was not saying that I speak too often, but rather I say too much when I do choose to speak.)


--------------------
The Mad Shroomer said:
People are always promising the apocalypse. They never deliver. :frown:

Edited by Wasteland (10/03/09 02:30 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Justin_c17]
    #11174707 -

Justin_c17 said:
Icelander said:
I have nothing against women, but have you noticed how a majority of them can't carry on an intelligent conversation?


I find the reverse to be true in spades. Take the Shroomery as an example. Few women would respect the level of conversation that goes on here as a whole.

Ever thought it's the kind of women who are hanging around you and not women in general?


The women in here are here becuase they are not like the others. That is why I said most.

I also would not have said it if I didn't see it in most women in general. I don't hang around with women like this because it is frustrating.


I see the same in most men to an equal degree at least. I think you certainly do have something against women.


--------------------
"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.

" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Wasteland]
    #11174708 -

I wasn't saying you did. I said all that to let you know you can be insulting to people without realizing it. I recorded him one night and let him listen to it and that is when he realized how much he sounded like a dick.


--------------------
If anything typed above is about me participating in illegal activities it is either a joke or a lie. <img src="https://files.shroomery.org/smileys/w0ahhhhmahnnn.gif" alt=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:" title=":w0ahhhhmahnnn:"/>

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Diaboleros]
    #11174711 -

genius is so simple that people overlook it thinking there must be more to it


--------------------
I have considered such matters.

SIKE

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Re: Genius and talent, is nothing but hard work. [Re: Cherk]
    #11176729 -

Often when I travel, people tell me "Oh, you're so lucky, you can travel!"  I find this annoying because it's not luck, I work, save some money, think creatively about how to stretch out a buck...  I say, "No, it's not luck."
Because I learned to speak French & Spanish, people say "Oh , you're so lucky that you know other languages."  Um, no, that was putting myself out there and learning.
When I snowboard, people say "Oh, you're so lucky!"  It's not luck.
When people see my artwork, they say "Oh, you're so lucky to have talent."  It's not luck, I started drawing and painting as a child and never stopped.  Anyone can practice drawing and painting.  It's not luck.
It takes time, practice and work to develop skills.
And in terms of intelligence, I think we can cultivate that too with what we put INTO ourselves in terms of food and media and ... drugs.  We can make ourselves more intelligent or more stupid.  I know that cannabis in moderate use makes me think on a more advanced level.  Mushrooms too, and LSA.  But overdoing anything... fucks me up.  When I eat whole foods, my brain and body work better.  When I eat shitty food and don't drink water, I can't think properly.
When we spend time with people who challenge us intellectually we can grow, and when we spend time with people who are dumbing themselves down, we can end up dumbed down too.
And ... if it were only as simple as it being a gender thing. That would help me choose who to associate with.  But it's never a gender thing.
And how can we blame girls for feeling like their looks are the most important thing?  Even here on shroomery people tell me to show my tits if I want anyone to pay attention to me.  If I listen to them, I'll end up dumbed-down too.
It's kind of like that movie "Idiocracy".


--------------------
:stoned:  Be the Change!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 |  [ show all ]

Shop: North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Sporeworks.EU Spores for European Microscopy   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds

General Interest > Philosophy, Sociology & Psychology
Threaded Mode Threaded  Previous topic Previous  View all topics Index  Next topic Next 

Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* intelligence is bliss
( 1 2 3 4 all )		 RonaldFuckingPaul 4,758 62 07/31/10 01:32 PM
by TheSkyInYourEye
* Whitehead - Universal Intelligence and God
( 1 2 all )		 numonkei 4,121 22 08/24/08 11:58 AM
by psyka
* Intelligence SpecialEd 2,397 16 05/23/04 06:05 AM
by redgreenvines
* Writing and Intelligence
( 1 2 all )		 leery11 2,104 23 07/15/07 04:29 AM
by Helixx
* For those of you who see mushrooms as sacred
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )		 Colonel Kurtz Ph.D 13,643 133 07/13/05 12:37 AM
by GNIOM1498
* Intelligent Design
( 1 2 all )		 djd586 3,330 22 12/18/03 05:32 PM
by fireworks_god
* Religious Belief Inversely Proportional to Intelligence
( 1 2 3 4 ... 11 12 all )		 OrgoneConclusion 15,159 221 07/23/08 01:07 PM
by geokills
* M.I. (Mushroom Intelligence) (now with cool new pictures)
( 1 2 all )		 dmtrypr 4,251 33 11/27/04 05:13 AM
by fresh313

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
2,198 topic views. 2 members, 38 guests and 16 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2026 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.027 seconds spending 0.007 seconds on 16 queries.