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MarkostheGnostic
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Re: Whitehead - Universal Intelligence and God [Re: Icelander]
#8815344 - 08/23/08 11:36 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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Icelander said: Not my core. Speak for yourself. My core is the BatMan. And I have just as much chance of being correct as you.
No you don't, "because I'm always right and I'm never wrong. So vote for me - George Leroy Tirebiter."
Edited by MarkostheGnostic (08/23/08 03:21 PM)
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Icelander
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Re: Whitehead - Universal Intelligence and God [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#8815940 - 08/23/08 02:17 PM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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"I didn't know you masturbated" -Don't crush that dwarf, hand me the pliers.
-------------------- "Don't believe everything you think". -Anom. " All that lives was born to die"-Anom. With much wisdom comes much sorrow, The more knowledge, the more grief. Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Re: Whitehead - Universal Intelligence and God [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#8818797 - 08/24/08 03:03 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: Yes, true...and my 'core' your 'core' and everyone's 'core' is the Atman, before the word became overlayed with egoic misunderstanding. That is to say, our 'core' opens up into Infinity, it is the Infinite in the finite, and the Heart Cave is its 'portal.'
when wasn't it overlayed with egoistic misunderstanding?
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Icelander said: Not my core. Speak for yourself. My core is the BatMan. And I have just as much chance of being correct as you.
batman doesn't live in the Heart Cave, he lives in the Bat Cave, duh!
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process reality is partially about rejected mind-body dualism (which analytical philosophers still rage on about, especially in philosophy of mind). one way of looking at it: can there be a soul or immaterial mind if everything in the universe is material? usually they say no. over the years there've been many suggested solutions, like epiphenomenalism and parallelism.
Whitehead says the universe is made up of small parts, each grows, develops. You can say Whitehead was concerned with becoming (a hip term now in some philosophy circles) instead of being. That is: seeing everything as a process instead of seeing everything as stuff. Or seeing things ontologically instead of metaphysically.
Whitehead also meant that science doesn't tell us about a reality lying behind experience, but that reality is a structure built upon, constructed out of experience.
Speaking of Whitehead, I think it was Markosthegnostic who, a few days ago, mentioned someone saying Western Philosophy is a footnote to Plato. I can think of several philosophers who've said that, Whitehead was one of them.
Looking more deeply at Western Philosophy from Aristotle until the late 19th Century it doesn't seem like such a ridiculous claim. Even most things we discuss in the message board were touched upon by Plato.
Some say we must overcome the tradition and think outside Plato's golden box.
Then again it's the character of how we ask these questions that gives us "Philosophy".
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psyka
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Re: Whitehead - Universal Intelligence and God [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
#8819477 - 08/24/08 09:58 AM (15 years, 5 months ago) |
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MarkostheGnostic said: I didn't say anything about attachment. Of course I am egoistically attached to my standard of living inasmuch as I am identified with my embodied ego-mind. What I said was that technology has nothing to do with the deep values that philosophy and theology attempt to understand or at least to symbolize (in order to practice some ritual-symbolism which embodies a Mystery which cannot be understood rationally).
What you just did was to interpret my post, project your quick interpretation onto me, and then react to your own projection! It's called Projective Identification.
If you want clarification, ask for it. You're just being reactive. On the other hand, perhaps you are an Existentialist and believe that your essential being IS all the 'stuff' that your outer life is about, and your attachments to those outer things. I (as ego) would be devastated if a hurricane razed my home, for example, but that devastation is not going to touch my core values or annihilate the insights around which my core values formed. The same thing with my Lady, if she predeceases me. My core values will not be touched. Impermanence is not news. I will not stop self-examining my life or abandon Compassion as human essence because my ego has taken a beating.
lol, you're right, I was projecting. I just find it humorous when people who profess compassion yet bash technology, which you did not really do.
-------------------- As the life of a candle, my wick will burn out. But, the fire of my mind shall beam into infinite.

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