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Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife?
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Vote and elaborate on your thoughts.
Will Science eventually figure out God / the Afterlife?
You may choose only one


Votes accepted from 07/28/09 04:28 PM until the end of time
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll



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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
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I didn't vote, and here's my answer to your question...

Science can only study the observable.  This means the physical world, including things like radio waves which aren't observable by our senses.  We still have instruments to detect them.  Science can only study what lies within the material universe.

Religion and God and Spirituality belong to the realm of Metaphysics, or that which lies outside the observable physical universe.

Therefore, remaining within the self-defined parameters of the words science and metaphysics, they are incompatible.  But, just because we defined them as such doesn't make it so.  Our whole presupposition could be wrong.


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: jonathanseagull]
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I didn't vote either.
But my answer is: No, because it is focused on the external (objective) world.


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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
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I really can't say for sure.  I mean, it's hard to see how they could, but science has advanced so rapidly in the past century that there's nothing I'd rule out.

I would also say that it's more likely to do so if it expands from narrow science to broad science.  Narrow science, which is the current paradigm, only studies exteriors.  Broad science would also apply the scientific method to interior experiences, which mystics have done for centuries.  An integral science would be able to combine the two to find meaningful correlations, and control for various factors.


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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: Silversoul]
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Do you not consider psychology to be this integral science?


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Loving in truth, and fain in verse my love to show, That the dear She might take some pleasure of my pain: Pleasure might cause her read, reading might make her know, Knowledge might pity win, and pity grace obtain.

Edited by jonathanseagull (07/28/09 09:40 PM)

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: jonathanseagull]
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jonathanseagull said:
Do you not consider psychology to be this integral science?


I can be such as transpersonal psychology!

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
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I wonder why you would ask mystics this and not scientists?  Doesn't matter I suppose, if you had more straightforward choices you would likely get the same answer.

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: DieCommie]
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the art of science is that of making guesses and waching shit do nothing or something we have evidence of supper natural beings existing after death.as to what made the world the way it is,if u ask me some sort of cosmic crap shoot:stoned:


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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: simbad42]
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Supposedly that's why particle physicists are looking for the Higgs Boson particle.

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: Fraggin]
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Thats what some may say, but they are really just looking for it to keep their tired old field relevant and to stay employed.  :wink:

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: DieCommie]
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There is no afterlife, so there is nothing for science to discover.


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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: Glassjaw]
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Glassjaw said:
There is no afterlife, so there is nothing for science to discover.


Prove it! :crazy2:

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: AmericaOnLSD]
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Quote:
Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife?


I didn't vote because there wasn't an "I don't care" option.

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: Existence]
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My answer is that we already have figured out God and the afterlife, we just haven't realized that's what it is yet.

We haven't let the discoveries of quantum physics sink into our everyday experience.

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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: JohnP]
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Bob the alien claimed that the beings from his world were able to scientifically prove the existence of an afterlife, and it had something to do with the many worlds theory.


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Re: Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife? [Re: Existence]
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Existence said:
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Will Science Ever Figure out God / the Afterlife?


I didn't vote because there wasn't an "I don't care" option.


Hi.  Welcome to M&P!


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