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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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I'm a tree-hugging, hippy-punk, didgeridoo-playing anarcho-pagan. :cool:

And i like the Krishna people cause they're always happy, and make great vegan burgers. :laugh:

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: Mr Wobblehead]
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Once I watched this krishna dude at a rainbow gathering refuse to let anybody into his van to get into the main part of the gathering ( I was running shuttle and was at the outer gate turn around). He said "Krishna's don't give rides.". Right then, about 6 old hippies jumped in front of his rig and refused to let him pass with his Krishan goodies. He then acted as if he was going to RUN THEM OVER so I jumped in there too to give him the added karma. He eventually broke down and looking very disheartened after 15 smelly road hippies piled into his van, drove off into the gathering....it was way too funny....

Don't get me wrong, I hang at krishan kitchen much when I am at gatherings, they have the best food and the rightoues music.....


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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Anti-ismism

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: infidelGOD]
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lol thats quite a paradox - good one man


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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I describe myself as a Jewish Christian, but Jewish Christian Gnostic is more accurate inasmuch as it 1) usually requires that others ask what that is, and 2) serves to describe my faith as primarily inner directed, and not identical with the social groups that refer to themselves as Churches of Christ. I have also learned a good deal from Indian religion, and Yoga has helped me considerably to understand certain Truths, and to master certain Higher states of consciousness pertaining to my faith. God is not 'a' being, God is the Ground of Being. God is not less than personal, God has a Personal and a Transpersonal Nature. This is most clearly described in Hinduism, but can also be discovered from Christian mysticism.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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I'm a Gnostic Chaoist. This path is comprised of the basic principles of Taoism liberally dosed with Chaos principles (the science AND the magic of it) thus producing the sacred Chao. Top that off with a light 'n zesty sprinkling of early Christian heretical beliefs, as a sort of lop-sided nod to my upbringing.

Above all, my path values the eternal moment of gnosis over, say, mere book-larnin'...

Ayup, I guess you could say I'm a chao-boy! "On a steel horse I ride..."


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: the_Landotter]
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I have the heard the term "Ground of Being" before. What does that mean?

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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The " Ground of Being" is a term used by theologian Paul Tillich to describe "the God beyond God." Mystics have referred to this in other ways, like Dionysus the Areopagite's "Superessential Godhead." God is Ultimate Reality - That which is Ultimately Real. From a Christian point of view, the Creator is qualitatively, ontologically different from the creation. God may be mysteriously 'in' creation (panentheism), but is not identical with creation (pantheism). The Divine 'infrastructure,' or 'matrix,' which is identified in Hinduism by the formula Being-Knowledge-Bliss (Sat Chit Ananda), has its correlate in Christianity in this Ground of Being.

Since God is 'in' creation (immanence) and transcends the creation, it has to be considered that God cannot be less than creation. If we, as beings, are personal, God can be thought of as at least having personality, but the Ground of Being transcends personality, and is transpersonal - incorporating but going beyond the category of personality. The Ground is not impersonal, therefore but transpersonal, and gives rise to the personal aspect. As in the formula of the Trinity - 'Una Substantia, Tres Personas' - One Substance, Three Persons - the underlying 'substance' is the Divine Ground. Personality is eternally begotten from the Ground. This theology can be found in 'Principles of Christian Theology' by John MacQuarrie.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (03/30/06 06:03 PM)

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Nice post.  :wink:


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What if everything around you
Isn't quite as it seems?
What if all the world you think you know,
Is an elaborate dream?
And if you look at your reflection,
Is it all you want it to be?


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: Murex]
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thanks for your reply..but can I ask what transpersonal means? lol

I read on this website that there are two paths to God. There is a path that experiences God as a personal being (Allah, Father, Yahweh, etc) and theres another path that experiences God as Awareness (Nirvana, Tao, Brahman, etc.) What do you think about that?

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: Murex]
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Thanks.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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Transpersonal means transcending the personal.

The oldest religious traditions that are also highly philosophical originate in India. The Hindu thinkers differentiated between Nirguna Brahma, which is God 'without attribute,' utterly transcendental, about which nothing can be said because it is beyond limitation of definition; and Saguna Brahma, which is God 'with attributes.' This would include the notion of 'Iswara,' or a Personal God, One Who dispenses Grace, and Who is intimately involved with the life of the human being. This would be like Christ, the Logos, the Word, through Whom all things were made, and thus we derive our being from God through this aspect of the Godhead. Incidentally, in Jewish Kabbalism, Above the first sephiroth called Kether - Crown - which is God, is the Unmanifest Godhead listed as Ain Soph Aur, Ain Soph, and Ain - The Limitless Light, The Limitless, and '?' [That which nothing can be spoken of]. So you see, Christianity, Judaism and Hinduism are all theistic faiths which recognize a Transpersonal Ground that transcends the personal domain. Buddhism isn't interested in the manifest world of history - it is a cosmic religion, not a historical religion, and may even be thought of as a 'psychological' religion. I have learned much from Buddhism, and even wrote a 222 page doctoral dissertation on Vajrayana Buddhist psychology, but I believe in God as expressed in theistic faiths. As you can see, the theistic faiths embody but transcend a Personal God, Buddhism is lacking in the recognition of the Reality of Prayer, Grace, Forgiveness and other important aspects of spiritual life (IMHO).

BTW, when responding to a post, click on the name of the poster you are responding to for clarity. Peace.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

Edited by MarkostheGnostic (01/06/03 11:52 PM)

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Alright, thanks.

You described yourself as a Gnostic, right? Do you prescribe to the belief that the Creator God is inferior to the Transpersonal God, as the Gnostics did?



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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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Good question! Actually, no, I do not believe that the God of the Bible is the evil Demiurge. The aspect of Gnosticism that I adhere to is the experiential aspect. That is, I believe that God's Presence is Realized within human awareness, and that human awareness is an inner-directed Reality. The Kingdom of God is not a spacio-temporal extension, a 'place' above the clouds as in a 1st century mythologically based cosmology. Neither is the Kingdom of God a mere subjective state, but an eternal Verity that does interface and transform the human being. The Greek Orthodox call this process theosis.


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γνῶθι σαὐτόν - Gnothi Seauton - Know Thyself

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Yeah, in Luke Christ himself said "The Kingdom of God is within you"

and the Gospel of Thomas talks extensively about finding yourself.

Ive always believed that the Kingdom of God is an ability or place inside of us that we can commune with God in. What do you think?

Also, Ive heard one person describe meditation as listening to God, while praying is talking to God. What do you think?


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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Yes, the Gospel of Thomas has had an impact on my faith. It is described as being Gnostic, and embraces a 'fully-realized eschatology,' wherein the Kingdom is to be found under a rock or in a a piece of cut wood - i.e., here and now is full with Eternity. The canonical gospels describe a 'partially realized eschatology,' where the Kingdom is only partly present, but 'will be' revealed, that is, belongs to a future time. I don't believe the Kingdom of God is about time at all. It has and is broken through our linear historical flow.

Petitionary prayer, Intercessory prayer [for others], prayers of Thanksgiving [spontaneous moments of being grateful, or planned, ritualized thanks like at meals, sex, or essentially anything], and Contemplative prayer are the 4 main types of Christian prayer. Meditation in the West refers to a discursive thinking about written scripture. Contemplation is what the East means by meditation - various degrees of recollection and absorption in God. St. Theresa says that true contemplative prayer (vs. oral or mental prayer) is supernaturally given. That is, it cannot be done at will, but is infused by God, or as the Orthodox say, by God's 'Uncreated Energies.' It is a [comm]union that transcends subject-Object duality to a great extent. It is wordless, thoughtless, imageless, but highly energetic. Samadhis in Hinduism; Jhanas in Buddhism.


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Yeah, and that movie Stigmata really tied the Gospel of Thomas into the plot nicely.

Oh yeah..What do you think about the "Gap Theory" between Genesis 1:1 and Genesis 1:2. Could billions of years have elapsed between the events described in these verses? Why does Genesis 1:2 appear like the Earth is flooded? Could the 6 Day process described in Genesis actually be God restoreing the Earth after Lucifers Rebellion?

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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The language of Genesis is mythological and poetic, not scientific. If the 'creatio ex nihilo' was intuited by the author of Genesis, it simply affirms that truth can be apprehended immediately and intuitively as well as empirically. The Big Bang describes creation out of nothing, out of a singularity - a mathematical point. It is entirely legitimate in 'my Book' to equate the act of creation with the Big Bang - mythology with cosmology, intuition and empiricism. The 6 days of creation is not sidereal time, it is mythological time. Pardon my Gnostic arrogance, but only a complete simpleton will fail to shift gears when reading mythological descriptions as literal scientific fact. Science was not possible for the authors of Genesis, but imagination was, as well as its source in the deep unconscious. In Jung's last work with physicist Wolfgang Pauli, they began to expound the idea that psyche and space-time were two sides of the same coin, so that the reality of cosmic events could actually be registered in the collective unconscious, since they are both of the same 'substance.'


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Re: What religion are you? [Re: MarkostheGnostic]
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Yeah, of course I understand that Genesis wasnt written by a scientist. lol

I pretty much believe that the Creator threw away some of his own energy, and then the Big Bang occured as a result. What do you think?

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Re: What religion are you? [Re: undecided]
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Jesus Christ The Son of God is my Lord n Savior.


If the world hates me for it so be it. For belivers earth is the only hell they will ever experience, for non belivers earth is the only heaven they will ever experience.


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