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Veritas

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Re: Voting Ethics

[Re: mofo]
#8967306 - 09/22/08 08:46 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

mofo said:

That won't accomplish anything. Already, only a minority of eligible voters actually vote, and and no one cares. Its funny how large voter turnout is more likely to make the news. Not ha ha funny tho...

Actually, a majority of the Voting Age Population in the U.S. votes. If we adjust the VAP figure to account for the 7 - 10% of the U.S. population who are ineligible to vote (non-citizens, prisoners, etc...), a large majority of U.S. citizens vote. This is particularly true for presidential elections.

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hamandcheese
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Re: Voting Ethics

[Re: lIllIIIllIlIIlIlIIllIllIIl]
#8967623 - 09/22/08 10:47 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

adjust said:

Do you realize how utterly unlikely that is? The system will not fix the system.

And that means we shouldn't try to fix it? i never said it wasn't unlikely, i even mentioned that a change like this will not occur overnight, but that doesn't mean it won't or can't occur. ratifying amendment is not easy, but its not neccascery to solve this problem. it could do it, but there are other means. colorado is talking about changing its system to allocate EVs and Maine and Nebraska have systems that are different to the strict winner takes all EVs of the state. A state by state change seems to be the better path in this.

system may not fix the system but the system can be fixed.

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Icelander
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Re: Voting Ethics

[Re: hamandcheese]
#8967665 - 09/22/08 10:59 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

And that means we shouldn't try to fix it?

Yes indeed. Instead we should try and fix ourselves and if most of us accomplished this the rest would take care of itself. Without fixing the flaws in ourselves we will and have continually recreated a badly corrupted and flawed system.

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" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.

With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC

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hamandcheese
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Re: Voting Ethics

[Re: Icelander]
#8967713 - 09/22/08 11:13 AM (17 years, 11 months ago)

thats a nice idealistic comment, however the fundamental flaw of your ideologue assumes that human nature is perfectible. are you suggesting that all efforts to reform the laws that govern the people should be suspended until the people can "fix themselves"?

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Icelander
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Re: Voting Ethics

[Re: hamandcheese]
#8968289 - 09/22/08 01:41 PM (17 years, 11 months ago)

I never said perfect.

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