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InvisibleCosm
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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: dblaney]
    #5484571 - 04/05/06 09:09 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

the slaves will always have more power than the slave driver.

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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: dblaney]
    #5485848 - 04/06/06 09:32 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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dblaney said:

This I'm not so sure of...if ending all of society's ills was as easy as stopping one piece of legislation, I'd bet something would have been done by now. I think it is a piece (albeit an important piece) of the puzzle that we have to complete.



well i never said it would fix the world, i simply said it would not be difficult, simply making the drugs legal would set everything into play. Businesses would say "Hey I want to sell peyote!" and Native Americans would say "No, peyote is sacred....." and desire for people to simply grow their own.... and through all this hub-ub of activity all the things we're debating such as exactly how, why, where, things will be regulated, how better health care and education will come up... it will be taken care of by itself.


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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: leery11]
    #5485852 - 04/06/06 09:34 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Oh okay, I thought you were referring to legalization as a cure-all for society, but you're talking just about the drug debate.


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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: dblaney]
    #5486178 - 04/06/06 11:10 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

I saw the slave thing on PBS special about ramses, they showed the long row houses the slaves had. Your correct though I dont think there is physical proof the slaves were jews, but all the same the dates match up with the bible, and where else was egypt going to get their slaves at that point?


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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: blaze2]
    #5486199 - 04/06/06 11:19 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

From anywhere else in Africa?

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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: Redstorm]
    #5486262 - 04/06/06 11:45 AM (18 years, 1 month ago)

The issue is how do slaves build a pyramid... the people were sort of "slaves" by our standards but they believed in their cause fully and did it willingly to honor the Gods.
this is what i heard, anyway.

hence the perfection of the pyramids.... slave labor yields bad products, just look at made in China stuff!


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Edited by leery11 (04/06/06 11:46 AM)

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InvisibleCosm
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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: leery11]
    #5486483 - 04/06/06 12:55 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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leery11 said:
The issue is how do slaves build a pyramid... the people were sort of "slaves" by our standards but they believed in their cause fully and did it willingly to honor the Gods.
this is what i heard, anyway.

hence the perfection of the pyramids.... slave labor yields bad products, just look at made in China stuff!




good point! so with that in mind . is there real evidence that slaves built the pyramids, i would assume the pyramids were built long before the bible occurs,,...made in china stuff is just made by cheap materials, the Chinese don't know that 1200 dollars a year isn't allot of money, however they are happy to be working and making a living....

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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: Cosm]
    #5493178 - 04/08/06 02:02 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

Egypt had to cross the sahara to the west or mountains to the south to get the rest of the slaves in africa, why would they do that when not far north and along better roads were the weak sheperds and tribes of early Jews?


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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: blaze2]
    #5493204 - 04/08/06 02:08 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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blaze2 said:
Egypt had to cross the sahara to the west or mountains to the south to get the rest of the slaves in africa, why would they do that when not far north and along better roads were the weak sheperds and tribes of early Jews?




Interesting point. The slaves, for one thing, could have been Egyptians themselves, lower, poorer classes. Also, weak shepherds wouldn't make good slaves. :grin:

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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5493219 - 04/08/06 02:14 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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Democracy =! Slavery




thats a way of writing Democracy does not equal Slavery.  actually it would be Democracy != Slavery

but whatever.  just shows how stupid you are so there.  :thumbdown:


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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: kotik]
    #5493263 - 04/08/06 02:34 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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kotik said:
but whatever.  just shows how stupid you are so there.  :thumbdown:




:lol:

Nothing like refutation by demonstrating an incorrect usage of a symbol. :rolleyes:

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Re: Democracy =! Slavery [Re: fireworks_god]
    #5494632 - 04/08/06 09:10 PM (18 years, 1 month ago)

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fireworks_god said:
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blaze2 said:
Egypt had to cross the sahara to the west or mountains to the south to get the rest of the slaves in africa, why would they do that when not far north and along better roads were the weak sheperds and tribes of early Jews?




Interesting point. The slaves, for one thing, could have been Egyptians themselves, lower, poorer classes. Also, weak shepherds wouldn't make good slaves. :grin:

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Peace. :mushroom2:




im sure some were other egyptians, but I'm also sure that the sheperds werent weak physically just militarily.  Everybody back then had muscles(exepct the highest noble class of course), so yea they would make good slaves.  strong as they probroly were from carrying water, animals, rocks, building houses, and pretty much doing everything with elbow grease they still wouldnt have had much chance of evading trained soldiers on horseback and in chariots.


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Thomas Jefferson

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