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Invisibledblaney
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Veritas]
    #4793472 - 10/12/05 03:21 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

That's refreshing to hear. Many people are of the viewpoint that they deserve more either because they don't have enough money, or have more money than others. Any way you slice it, money almost invariably leads to greed and corruption. I've never really liked money. Frankly, I think the barter system is more advanced than money. It would be really cool if someone opened up a barter shop around here, or anywhere.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: LunarEclipse]
    #4793482 - 10/12/05 03:23 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Actually I tip the fat ugly hard working/and or pleasant waitresses as much as cute not so hard working/and or not so pleasant waitresses.

Doesn't seem fair to effectively make the ugly girl work a lot harder than the cute girl even though their ugly/cute index is genetic and out of their control.

By the way, I heard somewhere that ugliness is in the eye of the beholder.  :tongue:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Veritas]
    #4793506 - 10/12/05 03:27 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

A little off topic, but sorta apropos:

I'm enjoying this new atmosphere of speaking my mind on ideas with others who understand that ideas are the topic and the poster of the ideas is more or less irrelevant.

I almost forgot what it's like to let loose and not have to question every other sentence I type lest it offend someone's fragile ego.  :thumbup:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Diploid]
    #4793508 - 10/12/05 03:28 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Only sturdy egos need apply to the P&R forum. :smirk:

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Invisibledblaney
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Veritas]
    #4793602 - 10/12/05 03:46 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It's strange...both P&R and S&M have in the past few days had posts saying more or less the exact same thing.

I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off as one forum, with a new rule forbidding the attack of posters, and allowing only calm discussion of the ideas presented.

Either way, I figure that it'll be a matter of time before posts in both forums begin to make personal attacks.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: dblaney]
    #4793625 - 10/12/05 03:49 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I wonder if we wouldn't have been better off as one forum, with a new rule forbidding the attack of posters, and allowing only calm discussion of the ideas presented.

We tried that. It lead to the split.

Some people (ironically, usually those who most profess spirituality) can't divorce themselves from their ideas even temporarily for the sake of discussion.


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Diploid]
    #4793634 - 10/12/05 03:51 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Ironic that this thread went from discussion of change, to discussion of...change.



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Invisibledblaney
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Diploid]
    #4793665 - 10/12/05 03:58 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
Some people (ironically, usually those who most profess spirituality) can't divorce themselves from their ideas even temporarily for the sake of discussion.




Quote:

From S&M:
I think many who voted for the split just got tired of being in an angry, abusive, hostile conflict drama filled environment when they just wanted to freely and openly discuss "with guards down", things of a spiritual, religious, esoteric, mystical, philosophical nature.




It seems that both boards like to think of each other as being the ones who were making personal attacks.

Frankly I think that it's only a handful or two of people on the entire Shroomery that made such personal attacks, and they should have been dealt with, not separating the boards...together they formed a cohesive unit of freethinkers willing to tackle questions from ethics to spiritual energy systems.

This post is entirely off topic though, so I apologize.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: dblaney]
    #4793765 - 10/12/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It seems that both boards like to think of each other as being the ones who were making personal attacks

But you see, that's the thing. When one of the S&M gang posts that they can consistently guess what number their friend is thinking of through telepathy, I point out that if that were true they could win the Randi Foundation's $1,000,000 Challenge, immediately remove all doubt that telepathy really does exist, and gain me instantly as their first groupie.

But instead of trying for the prize, they take my comment personally and accuse me of being angry, abusive, hostile, and flinging ad hominems at them.

Meanwhile, when I probe a UFO person who claims (in the irony of ironies) that we have never been to the moon to expose the myriad holes in their conspiracy theory, I get called asshole, dipshit, stupid, idiot, moron, and the list goes on.

This post is entirely off topic though, so I apologize

I think it's too late for that, but sorry Veritas. :heart:  :tongue:


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Republican Values:

1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.

4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.

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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Diploid]
    #4793767 - 10/12/05 04:16 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

You can make it up to me later! :wink:

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Invisibledblaney
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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Diploid]
    #4793900 - 10/12/05 04:41 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

I've experienced the same thing man. I think the boards just need more mods or at least have the current mods be more active in keeping an eye out for such behavior, as I think it's the exception, not the rule.


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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"

"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer

Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Ethics and Too Much Change [Re: Veritas]
    #4794078 - 10/12/05 05:15 PM (18 years, 4 months ago)

It depends on who gives me too much change. If it's from a fast food chain, any big business or that, I'll just keep it. Anytime else I'll give it back if I notice it.


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