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#852796 - 08/30/02 07:17 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Are you all stocked up with Potassium Iodide and plenty of food and drugs?
http://www.rense.com/general28/waras.htm
US General Tells Israelis War
Will Start By Late November
Special To World Tribune.com
8-29-2
TEL AVIV - The United States has told Israel that it will attack Iraq before the end of November.
Israeli military sources said a a senior U.S. military visited Israel earlier this week and toured facilities where the U.S. military has prepositioned equipment and weapons for an emergency in the Middle East.
The sources quoted a visiting U.S. general who heads army logistics as saying that Washington intends to strike the regime of Iraqi President Saddam Hussein by late November.
The Israeli sources said the two countries discussed Israel's role in any U.S. military attack, Middle East Newsline reported.
The general was quoted as saying that Washington's aim is to topple the Saddam regime. The general was not named.
In joint military discussions earlier this summer, Pentagon officials said Iraq would be only the first stop in the U.S. war on terror, an Israeli parliamentarian said.
Yuval Steinetz, chairman of the Knesset subcommittee on military doctrine, said he held talks with senior Pentagon officials in June regarding Washington's vision of a post-Saddam Middle East. Steinetz said Washington envisions a new order in the Middle East after Saddam is toppled and a democratic regime is installed.
"Iraq is the key but not the last stop [in the U.S. effort]," Steinetz said. "It is the first stop. After that there will be massive [U.S.] pressure on Syria and Iran to halt weapons of mass destruction programs and Syria's occupation of Lebanon."
U.S. military sources and analysts said Washington has sent tens of thousands of soldiers and military personnel to Gulf Arab states, Central and South Asia and the Levant. They said the force includes at least 1,000 military planners who have prepared for a rapid airlift of forces in case Washington decides on a war against Iraq.
Israeli officials have confirmed that both military and civilian officials from Israel and the United States have been discussing Washington's plans to attack Iraq. They said the talks have included the Bush administration's vision of a post-war Iraq and U.S. policy in the Middle East.
The military talks, the officials said, have focused largely on Israel's response to any Iraqi missile or air strike on the Jewish state. They said Israel and the United States have reviewed a series of scenarios of whether and how Israel would react to an Iraqi conventional or nonconventional missile strike.
Israeli military sources said the level of Israel's response would depend on the number of casualties and damage caused by any Iraqi strike.
The sources said Prime Minister Ariel Sharon has told the Bush administration that it would not pledge any policy of restraint as that during the 1991 Gulf war.
http://216.26.163.62/2002/ss_israel_08_29.html
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 Xlea321
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 Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: amanita3]
#852822 - 08/30/02 07:33 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Calling it a war does it too much justice. It's pure terrorism.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: amanita3]
#852826 - 08/30/02 07:37 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Just enough time for CNN to commission a theme song...
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: amanita3]
#853304 - 08/30/02 12:11 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bush will definately make sure he starts at least ONE war before his term is up. Wouldn't want to be upstaged by daddy, would he?
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#853805 - 08/30/02 05:40 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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at the moment world support, and even american support, is divided over US plans to attack Iraq
given that bush doesn't need approval from congress (i think i caught that on cnn a few days ago) to attack Iraq, how likely is bush going to start WW3 without support from allies?
Edited by foghorn (08/30/02 06:44 PM)
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Xlea321]
#853901 - 08/30/02 06:20 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Attacking military targets after declaring war is war. If we dropped nerve gas on civilians that would be terrorism. Wait that's what Saddam does...
On a good note. After we smite Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Iran will just be a quick hop over the border  .
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Edited by Ellis Dee (08/30/02 06:25 PM)
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: WhiskeyClone]
#853918 - 08/30/02 06:28 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bush didn't start the war on terror. It began on 9-11-2001 when terrorists flew aircraft into the Pentagon, WTC and a field in Penn. To not defend our lives would be treasonous... It is his sworn duty to defend the United States from all enemies, foreign and domestic.
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 Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: amanita3]
#853943 - 08/30/02 06:40 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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we have been known to start such wars during
our major holiday seasons to divert public attention away from the war....
if we do invade......please protest loudly....
we have zero right to invade them again.
fuck bush and his small penis
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: PGF]
#853951 - 08/30/02 06:43 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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>>>>we have zero right to invade them again.
Iraq has repeatedly broken the surrender terms of the Gulf War. That gives us every right to go back and kick their @$$ even harder this time.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#854016 - 08/30/02 07:57 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Attacking military targets after declaring war is war.
No it isn't. A war is when TWO armies are fighting. Would you call you getting into the ring with Mike Tyson a boxing match?
If we dropped nerve gas on civilians that would be terrorism. Wait that's what Saddam does...
Well,apart from the fact that US sold him the gas, Bush at the time said there was no proof Saddam had done this and that the pictures were faked. The year after he gave Saddam a billion dollars.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#854022 - 08/30/02 08:04 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Iraq has repeatedly broken the surrender terms of the Gulf War. That gives us every right to go back and kick their @$$ even harder this time.
No they havn't. The weapons inspectors were withdrawn by the UN after the US compromised the group with american spies. The US led sanctions and constant bombing missions since 1991 have killed at least 600,000 Iraqi children under 5 and around another 600,000 adults from lack of basic medical supplies. Cancer rates throughout southern Iraq have exploded due to the remnants of the US depleted uranium weapons. At least 3 top level UN officials have resigned in protest at the american enforced sanctions calling them "crimes against humanity" and "genocide". The leader of the UN weapons inspections team has stressed that at least 98% of Saddams weapons were destroyed and it is next to impossible he has built anymore. You cannot store gas as it deactivates after 5 years.
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 Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#854027 - 08/30/02 08:09 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that we *might* be attacking Iraq on/prior 09/11/02...
Im afraid that if it happens that it may not truly be for the right reasons (stopping them from nukeing us etc...)
I'm afraid that there might be plans to "kill two birds with one stone" (finish George W's daddy's mission AND to hand Americans a sort off "kick in the face" one year after 911.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Jammer]
#854058 - 08/30/02 08:20 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Attacking on 9-11 was a poll option on jerusalempost.com a few days ago too... I don't thnk we should now that I think about it. Let the people have their little ceremonies and cry and remember their lost loved ones on sept 11. We should attack on 9-12.
It is important to destroy Iraq's WOMD capabilities before they become nuclear. Their terror would reach an unprecedented level of horror if they obtain such capability . We need to act decisivly to prevent that.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#854065 - 08/30/02 08:24 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Their terror would reach an unprecedented level of horror if they obtain such capability . We need to act decisivly to prevent that.
What terror is this? Every hijacker on the Sep 11 plane was saudi arabian. So was Osama. Al-queda has most of it's support in Saudi. Why arn't the US attacking Saudi Arabia?
btw, what about the terror of the US enforced sanctions killing 600,000 iraqi kids under 5?
No-one with a clue seriously thinks Iraq has any weapons of mass destruction whatsoever - none of the weapons inspectors, none of the other people who have been on the ground over there. It's pure bullshit. The only people pushing the idea are Bush and the american media.
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Edited by Alex123 (08/30/02 08:26 PM)
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Xlea321]
#854069 - 08/30/02 08:26 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's Iraq's own fault. Saddam knows what he needs to do to get the sanctions lifted but refuses to.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Ellis Dee]
#854074 - 08/30/02 08:29 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not according to the UN official in charge of the sanctions. He resigned in disgust calling the US responsible for "crimes against humanity" and "genocide".
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Xlea321]
#854075 - 08/30/02 08:31 PM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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RE: "Every hijacker on the Sep 11 plane was saudi arabian"
Good point.
(however, as I heard it maybe two of them were from another country- none from Iraq)
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: amanita3]
#854439 - 08/31/02 04:57 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Attacking military targets after declaring war is war. If we dropped nerve gas on civilians that would be terrorism.
Oh how I agree, war is war, throw a rock at someone it will hurt.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Xlea321]
#858284 - 09/02/02 04:33 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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Alex123 writes:
Every hijacker on the Sep 11 plane was saudi arabian. So was Osama. Al-queda has most of it's support in Saudi. Why arn't the US attacking Saudi Arabia?
I am baffled when I see otherwise intelligent people smugly repeat this little mantra: "Osama and the hijackers are Saudis. Why not bomb Saudi Arabia?"
Osama and his merry band may have been BORN in Saudi Arabia, but all are vehemently anti-Saudi. None of them have lived in Saudi Arabia for years, in some cases for decades. They are all dedicated to the overthrow by violent means of the ruling house of Saud, because they believe the Saudi regime is corrupt and not Godly enough.
The Saudi government has been looking to capture and kill most of these guys for longer than the US has.
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Re: WAR planned for Nov. [Re: Phred]
#858293 - 09/02/02 04:41 AM (22 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Saudi government has been looking to capture and kill most of these guys for longer than the US has.
Nah man. Everyone knows the americans are almost completly out of control in Saudi and it's even more extreme than the Taliban. There was a major cleric from Saudi in the video chatting with Osama about the collapse of the towers. Osama probably has more support in Saudi than anywhere else - even the dreadfully corrupt government have realised they can't keep kissing americas ass and hold onto power anymore.
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