OrgoneConclusion said:

An ex-roommate of mine (young and healthy) did one with a jen-u-wine Native American shaman. He suffered serious heat stroke and it took him hours to recover. Very dangerous - but spiritual.

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Loading up on Mickey D's with Transfats which damage the elastica inter

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Heat stroke is caused by too high of a brain temperature and has little to do with arterial health. World-class runners and vegans can easily get heat stroke.

OrgoneConclusion said:

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Loading up on Mickey D's with Transfats which damage the elastica inter

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Heat stroke is caused by too high of a brain temperature and has little to do with arterial health. World-class runners and vegans can easily get heat stroke.

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OrgoneConclusion said:

Seems you are having your own private conversation with yourself.

My ex-roomie was a raw food vegan, so whatever Mickey D's has to do with anything just sounds like using this thread to preach about an unrelated issue.

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Um, transfats are in vegetables.  At Mickey D's found primarily in the French Fries.  So now your "friend" ate nothing but raw veggies?  Then he went to sweat lodges?

I dunno, sounds extremist to me.

Of course, vitamin B-12 is essential to cardiovascular health as well, which is extremely hard to get from raw veggies unless you are supplementing.

Let me guess, he was supplementing too! 

In that case, forget I brought it up. 

TheHappieHippies said:

Trans fats are man made aren't they?

I've heard sweat lodges can cause heat stroke. I understand that there are things you can do to prepare yourself to guard that from happening.

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Nevertheless, yes, transfats are manufactured fats usually from plant sources--vegetables, if you don't mind.  The process of hydrogentation, alluded to by backfromthedead, adds an atom of hydrogen to the plant oils' molecules to make them stiffer and adds significant shelf-life.  The downside being that the stiffer oil is also brittle lacking the flexibility of natural oils and reeks havoc with the membranes of cells causing them to lose their function in a variety of ways.

But...to answer your original question, sweat lodges can cause health problems for the uninitiate if, and only if, the "shaman" is silly enough to force people to stay in the sweat longer than they can endure.  No jen-u-wine shaman would do that.

If a person cannot endure the heat, he may say, "Mitakuye Oyasin" (All My Relations) and leave the sweat.

At least, that's what I'm told.

Of course, being that some idiotic vegan college kid didn't get anything out of a sweat performed by some fake shaman certainly means all sweat lodges are of no value, spiritual or otherwise.

What else would a rational person conclude?

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But...to answer your original question, sweat lodges can cause health problems for the uninitiate if, and only if, the "shaman" is silly enough to force people to stay in the sweat longer than they can endure. No jen-u-wine shaman would do that.

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