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A speech Obama will never give
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A speech Obama will never give
by Jay Ambrose

WASHINGTON (Map, News) - Myths are already growing around this man Barack Obama, and the one about his having a rock-star effect on his audiences seems to be true — women have been known to faint while hearing his speeches.

Decidedly untrue, however, are the stories that would have you believe he is an intellectually honest, essentially nonpartisan, America-unifying enemy of special interests whose policy ideas could well convert the country into some new Eden where no one ever again would have reason to complain.

The evidence against this montage of political excellence includes his strict adherence to leftist, Democratic positions in the Senate, his pledge to withdraw from Iraq but return if al Qaeda shows up (al Qaeda is there already), his tirades about supposedly regressive tax cuts that in fact favored the middle class, and — especially during the campaign in Ohio — his voiced disgust at the North American Free Trade Agreement.

This last piece of bamboozlement — the candidate actually insisted NAFTA has caused the loss of 1 million jobs in Ohio — sums up much that’s worst about a slick, populist style that is finally either ignorant or intentionally deceptive.

Look at what a number of acute observers have written, and here is what you will find.

Manufacturing production has been steadily increasing in America even as manufacturing jobs have been decreasing, not because of trade, but largely because of technological developments and increased worker productivity, various writers have said.

When trade does join with other reasons to make some industries falter or go away, others will come along to take their place in a market-driven economy.

Since NAFTA was enacted in 1993, a net of some 27 million additional jobs have been generated and prosperity has zoomed upward, it has been repeatedly noted.

Rich Lowry of the National Review points out that NAFTA itself didn’t do much to lower our own tariffs on Mexican goods — they were already low — but that it did further open the Mexican market to exports that, along with those to other countries, are supporting tens of thousands of jobs in Ohio.

It has not smashed cities in Ohio or anywhere else, as Obama has claimed.

But if a President Obama should scotch this agreement and others like it, consumer prices in America would soar, currently low unemployment would reach drastic highs and the moment’s economic downturn would look like the good old days.

Of course, Obama is not quite saying he would toss this bum out. He proposes instead to reform NAFTA — to get Mexico to adopt tougher environmental and labor standards. The catch-22 is that Mexico’s chief chance to accomplish such demands is wealth obtained through trade Obama plans to yank if the country doesn’t accomplish them.

Obama, who has acknowledged that NAFTA does create jobs, surely knows this, just as he knows that he’s making the heads of some foreign lands, including some desperately poor ones, nervous about what his presidency could mean to their own economies.

Obama has tried to reassure them that he believes in free trade as long as it is fair, which is to say, he does not believe in free trade, which by definition is trade without a host of “fair” conditions attached.

What he does believe in is winning elections by appeasing such special interests as the AFL-CIO, which contends protectionist measures are good for its members.

This candidate would make me start believing in him if he said, “Look, folks, this stuff about NAFTA is bunk, and the AFL-CIO has no more credibility with me than any other group that would harm the country for its own sake.”

Now there would be a speech worth fainting over.

http://www.examiner.com/a-1259391~Jay_Ambrose__A_speech_Obama_will_never_give.html


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Luddite]
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Do you ever have an opinion which you can express in your own words?


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: zorbman]
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so basically he's a fuckin flip flopper and will say whatever people want to hear, what is new about this?


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: zorbman]
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zorbman said:
Do you ever have an opinion which you can express in your own words?


QFT.

Nevertheless, I agree with this article's position on NAFTA. Some Democrats seem to deny one of the most self-evident of macroeconomic principles, which is that free trade benefits everyone involved.

When I hear Democratic politicians talking about how NAFTA must be struck down because it takes away jobs it comes off as political pandering. This is especially true when you hear someone like Hillary Clinton slam NAFTA. Her husband was the main proponent of NAFTA and signed the thing into effect when he was in office! Removing a free trade agreement and returning to protectionism at this time would only further fuck up our already reeling economy.

Edited by Virus_with_Shoes (03/05/08 11:07 PM)

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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
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Removing a free trade agreement and returning to protectionism at this time would only further fuck up our already reeling economy.


Not to mention the hit America's reputation would take. The Dems have been whining for years about how Bush is acting all arrogant and unilateral and ignoring international law and stuff. How much more arrogant and unilateral can you get than to cancel international treaties (breach of contract clearly being against international law) to which your country is a signatory?

Yeah... let's fuck over our two largest trading partners. That's a great idea!





Phred


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Phred]
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Not to mention the hit America's reputation would take. The Dems have been whining for years about how Bush is acting all arrogant and unilateral and ignoring international law and stuff.


Well, quite frankly, America's reputation is already in the shitter and the Bush administration has indeed done all of those things which you mention. However, Democrats would be no better than the Republicans that preceded them if they were to pull the US out of NAFTA. It would not only be a slap in the face to the US' main trading partners but would also further sully our already poor reputation while breaching international law in the process. Not an option.

All of this talk of revoking NAFTA was just Hillary Clinton's disingenuous attempt to pander to Ohioans just in time for the primary. Nothing more.


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
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> while breaching international law

I never knew that globalism had reached so far. Who goes to international jail when the US breaks international law?


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Seuss]
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Seuss said:
> while breaching international law

I never knew that globalism had reached so far.  Who goes to international jail when the US breaks international law?


:lol: ...and therein lies one of the main weaknesses of international law- it has no teeth.

It's not that anyone will go to jail when it comes to breaking international law (except in the case of the International Criminal Court when war crimes have been committed) but no country wants to be seen as in breach of international law. It seriously damages a country's credibility from a diplomatic perspective if they are seen as repeated violators of international law.

In the case of NAFTA and trade, if country A breaks an international trade law which harms country B, it can respond either with a proportionate retaliatory trade measure or by bringing its grievance before the WTO's Dispute Settlement Board and the Board may decide if compensation is due from country A to country B.
(How's that for a run-on sentence :awesome:)

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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Virus_with_Shoes]
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Mod Edit: Rondel, this isn't OTD. Stay on topic or you will be banned. This goes for everyone.

Edited by Diploid (03/06/08 12:18 PM)

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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Rondel]
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My god, who let you post again? :what:


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Re: A speech Obama will never give [Re: Rondel]
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Rondel said:
fuck obama, like he fucked my mamma.
bitch went down, in the elevator
stuck his dick up her ass, on the escalator
got to the plane, delayed because of rain
deadheads for obama two thousand eight
as i trickled down her leg, in front of the west gate.
                            in front of the west gate.



fireworks_god said:
She'll climb on top of obama (since she's one of those strong feminist types ) and ride his big black cock so long and hard!



IMO your post was just as bad....:grin:


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America's debt problem is a "sign of leadership failure"

We have "reckless fiscal policies"

America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

Americans deserve better

Barack Obama

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