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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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mikebart101 said:
We could do this all day. I was making a social observation about females and hallucinogens, nothing more.

Why do more females opt for plastic surgery? A lot more?


All this shows is that women's egos are more involved in their physical appearance(which can be explained in evolutionary terms). Guys simply direct their egos elsewhere, such as how much money they make, or whose ass they can kick, or who they can outwit.


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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: slackophage]
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I knew this post would get me in a load of shit so instead of it being a complete failure and arguing about sexism, would you agree that there is a difference between the way the male and female Ego evolve in regards to society?

How does this affect their behavior?


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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mikebart,

I don't think this is an ego thing. I think this is a how men perceive/relate to the world and how women perceive/relate to the world thing.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mushroomplume]
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The difference between men and women lies in our emotional responses. Men are more aggressive and stoic, women are more emotional and nurturing. These are just generalizations and are not always true.

Being that the ego is an illusion, a character that we are conditioned from birth to wear, there is nothing useful to be gleaned from observing the divergences between "the male ego" and "the female ego." It has more to do with the people we were raised by than the sex we were born with. There are absolutely no generalities to work with here.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (11/27/07 06:18 PM)

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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I think there is, but I also think it's voluntary on many levels. I think women who act the way you describe because it's a social norm, yet "know better", are weak and pathetic creatures. Likewise with men and their similar ego trips about money, power, and possessions.

Nature vs. nurture only goes so far in my book. You can decide how much run your ego has over your life. It's just simple willpower.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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Would you agree that there is a difference between the way the male and female Ego evolve in regards to society?

There is a difference between ALL peoples "ego evolution." The ego is the result of a few things, not simply gender. Experience, reactions, genetics, social conditioning, memory. All of this effects self-identity and is all more significant then gender when it comes to our ever-changing self identity.


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All I know is that I dont know.

Row, row, row, you boat, gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

Edited by badreligion2good (11/27/07 06:19 PM)

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: slackophage]
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But then the question arises again, is there a difference between an Ego that is built on truths and one built on false pretenses? Can one have an Ego that represents who they are and one that represents who they are not? Which one is damaging? Don't we all have Egos?

I feel that we do. Its the person who has a true Ego that appears to have none at all.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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Truth as we comprehend it is an illusion.

There's no inherent distinction between an ego built on "the truth" and one built on "false pretenses." The functional ego is the one that enables the host to control his or her emotions and make productive decisions. A defective one can't do one or the other or both of those things.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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So what if you think you are good at thinking you are good at something even if it that something holds no truth.

I.E. knowing you are good at math when math itself may very well be an illusion. You know you are better at than illusion than others.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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EDIT: I think I misunderstood.

I guess I see your point, but a person's ego is way too complex and layered to interpret in a way that involves "truth" and "false pretenses."

That said, I definitely agree that an ego can be true to a person's inner self or not, if that's what you mean.


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Enlil said:
You really are the worst kind of person.


Edited by Tchan909 (11/27/07 06:36 PM)

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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Never gave too much thought to that. My analysis doesn't go much beyond "Is this person full of shit, arrogant, or just that good?" when it comes to discerning overpowering egos.

Typically I just avoid them.

I really don't care how they got that way. :igor:

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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Back to evolution of the female ego.

Why are women no longer proud of being stay at home mothers? I consider that a very difficult career choice, but instead this is frowned upon today.

I don't know but I feel as if females band together more easily than men. When one female starts a movement, idea, fight, etc. almost all other females follow suit. Not trying to be sexist here. (Women's rights etc.)

I think society puts more pressure on females to conform together; be the 'ideal' female so to speak, and sometimes not all agree with these ideals and unwillingly conform to them. Over time the power of regret gets them fenced in and they grow afraid of being themselves, for fear of breaking free and truly knowing what regret is. Better not to face it.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: Lion]
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bug said:
*calmly waits for NiahmNyx, Veritas, and MushroomTrip to arrive* :bongload:



Here I am!!! I AM A WOMAN. I rather enjoy hallucinogens. I'm also a feminist and find the premise of the argument laughable, at best. Nice try.

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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mikebart101 said:
When one female starts a movement, idea, fight, etc. almost all other females follow suit. Not trying to be sexist here. (Women's rights etc.)


Women's rights had such a huge following because half the population hadn't been given any rights at all for millenia. I'm pretty sure most of them just jumped on the chance to be treated as human beings once they realized this was a movement and things didn't have to stay the way they were. Other than that, I don't see your point.

mikebart101 said:
I think society puts more pressure on females to conform together; be the 'ideal' female so to speak, and sometimes not all agree with these ideals and unwillingly conform to them.


Men have to deal with this too. I sure fucking know I do. The ideals are just different

mikebart101 said:
Over time the power of regret gets them fenced in and they grow afraid of being themselves, for fear of breaking free and truly knowing what regret is. Better not to face it.


This is where I can't even tell what you're trying to say anymore.

Edited by Tchan909 (11/27/07 06:54 PM)

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Re: Why Females Don Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: Sophistic Radiance]
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Tchan909 said:
EDIT: I think I misunderstood.

I guess I see your point, but a person's ego is way too complex and layered to interpret in a way that involves "truth" and "false pretenses."

That said, I definitely agree that an ego can be true to a person's inner self or not, if that's what you mean.


I tried getting people to admit what they are great at with a post last week "What Makes You Special" without them having to feel bad about it. Why should you feel egotistical if you know, for a fact, that you excel at something. Its just the truth. Others inevitably recognize it and so should YOU. Life is about finding out who you are. How many times have you heard that. Its also about knowing your flaws.


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: NiamhNyx]
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Quote:
Here I am!!! I AM A WOMAN.


Hear me ROAR? (Nevermind - before your time.)


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Edited by OrgoneConclusion (11/27/07 09:37 PM)

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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When women start movements all of us are too stupid to think for ourselves so we follow suit? That's what feminism was all about? *cough* What about Nazism? Adolf Hitler was definitly a man, and his very first supporters and thugs were young men who had no skills other than fighting (victims of the first world war.) What about Christianity? Yep, one more time, men are at the helm.

Your argument is ridiculous, as pretty much every single historical movement I can think of was started by and followed by men. Women weren't considered important enough to pursue as a support base, nor were we taken seriously enough to start movements of our own until the suffrage movement. Hmm. :rolleyes:

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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OrgoneConclusion said:
Quote:
Here I am!!! I AM A WOMAN.


Here me ROAR? (Nevermind - before your time.)


I got it. :wink:

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: NiamhNyx]
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This hurts but you are right.

Both men and women jump to each others sides in and argument thus proving a point I was driving at. Men and women classify each other by sex and judge by sex thus affecting their own judgment, choice, personality, and...Ego.

I am just saying that more males are aware of this than more females.

You are one enlightened female. But be careful about calling yourself a feminist.

Too often I hear of wives beating their husbands and females jumping to the conclusion, "he probably deserved it."

The women's movement is still a relatively fresh part of history and I feel that many females are still caught up in it.

Its only a matter of time before all the other females on this site band together and take me down. :grin:


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So we finish the eighteenth and he's gonna stiff me. And I say, "Hey, Lama, hey, how about a little something, you know, for the effort, you know." And he says, "Oh, uh, there won't be any money, but when you die, on your deathbed, you will receive total consciousness." So I got that goin' for me, which is nice.

Edited by mikebart101 (11/27/07 07:06 PM)

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Re: Why Females Do Not Enjoy Hallucinogens [Re: mikebart101]
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I am a heterosexual, middle class male, and I still disagree with you. It's not just females "banding together to take you down." I guess that means, disprove your fallacious theories? Your ideas are not well supported. Its people of all genders here with insight that will seek to disprove your misconceptions.


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All I know is that I dont know.

Row, row, row, you boat, gently down the stream.
Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, life is but a dream.

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