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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Seuss]
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The intended message of my original post was that we are running out of fossil feuls, slowing down a little bit is basicly a waste. We're spending billions of dollars to save a couple gallons of gas. When the oil does dry up, we'll be forced to use renewable energy sources.

In what reality does people doubling the feul economy on their cars save a single human life in the future?


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And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk ...four times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and its not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire.

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: shroommachine]
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Well its not bullshit, but anyhow we need to start somewhere with reducing, have to start now since we don't want to wait till its at a critical point.

Hey theres even ideas on how to engineer our way out of this:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/programmes/6298507.stm

Interesting documentary if you can see it.

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Thor]
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I never thought that global warming was human caused, or that these freak weather events are caused by it. Mass and heat transfer laws of equilibrium (2nd of thermodynamics, entropy) says that by increasing the temperature globally, the driving force for weather must decrease.

It is still a good enough excuse to the ignorant masses for us to further development of renewable fuels, and stop burning what we could be selling to the shittier parts of the world.

I love humanity. So creative, and so moronic.


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Minstrel]
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Minstrel said:Mass and heat transfer laws of equilibrium (2nd of thermodynamics, entropy) says that by increasing the temperature globally, the driving force for weather must decrease.


If you could elaborate on this, or provide any relevant links it would be appreciated, THx!

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Just to inform the ignorant, the electricity for these cars comes mostly from coal fired electric plants.



Depends on where you live. Where I live we use mostly nuclear. Also the plants can change. Also, its still a reduction in carbon emissions.

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zappaisgod said:Who knew? And "increasing the funds allocated to public transport" is most definitely a leftist plot.



To do what exactly? What sinister effect will come from increasing funds for public transportation?


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zappaisgod said:They should be self supporting from the fees paid for their usage. Otherwise it's just welfare. Get in line.



Yeah its easier to lecture people then it is to actually help.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: shroommachine]
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Classic example of the perfectionist fallacy.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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> Where I live we use mostly nuclear.

Which creates pollution that lasts for hundreds of thousands of years... why worry about killing off humans with 'global warming' when we can kill off humans and the next few species to inherit the planet as well...


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Seuss]
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We should store the nuclear waste on the moon. And create a pipeline to space for the co2 emission. Problem solved! :cool:

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Seuss]
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The author argues that nuclear waste is often overestimated in its dangers compared to coal and other combustion-based energy sources. They highlight that coal plants release significantly more hazardous substances, including carbon dioxide (15 tons per minute), sulfur dioxide (a ton every 5 minutes), nitrogen oxides (equivalent to emissions from 200,000 cars), particulates, ash, and thousands of carcinogenic compounds. In contrast, nuclear waste is minuscule in quantity and volume, weighing only 1/5 million tons annually and fitting under a card table. While nuclear waste is radioactive, the health risks are far less severe than those posed by chemical pollutants from coal. The author suggests that converting nuclear waste into glass for disposal is feasible and would result in minimal health impact, with only 0.6 fatalities over a century. In comparison, coal waste causes around 75 deaths per year from air pollution. The author concludes that on the basis of disposal simplicity and health impact, nuclear waste is 120 times less dangerous than coal waste.

The hazards of nuclear waste are generally exaggerated. And pale especially when you compare them to the hazards of coal and other combustion based sources of power. Even in terms of radioactivity, the amount released from coal plants exceeds the amount released from nuclear.

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A FIRST PERSPECTIVE

What is this material that is so controversial? As we know from elementary physical science courses, matter can be neither created nor destroyed. When fuel is burned to liberate energy, the fuel doesn't simply disappear. It is converted into another form, which we refer to as "waste." This is true whether we burn uranium or coal or anything else. For nuclear fuels, this residue, called "high-level waste," has been the principal source of concern to the public.

As an initial perspective, it is interesting to compare nuclear waste with the analogous waste from a single large coal-burning power plant. The largest component of the coal-burning waste is carbon dioxide gas, produced at a rate of 500 pounds every second, 15 tons every minute. It is not a particularly dangerous gas, but it is the principal contributor to the "greenhouse effect" discussed at some length in Chapter 3. The other wastes from coal burning were also discussed in Chapter 3, but let's review them briefly. First and probably foremost is sulfur dioxide, the principal cause of acid rain and perhaps the main source of air pollution's health effects, released at a rate of a ton every 5 minutes. Then there are nitrogen oxides, the second leading cause of acid rain and perhaps also of air pollution. Nitrogen oxides are best known as the principal pollutant from automobiles and are the reason why cars need expensive pollution control equipment which requires them to use lead-free gasoline; a single large coal-burning plant emits as much nitrogen oxide as 200,000 automobiles. The third major coal burning waste is particulates including smoke, another important culprit in the negative health effects of air pollution. Particulates are released at a rate of several pounds per second. And next comes the ash, the solid material produced at a rate of 1,000 pounds per minute, which is left behind to cause serious environmental problems and long-term damage to our health. Coal-burning plants also emit thousands of different organic compounds, many of which are known carcinogens. Each plant releases enough of these compounds to cause two or three cancer deaths per year.1 And then there are heavy metals like lead, cadmium, and many others that are known or suspected of causing cancer, plus a myriad of other health impacts. Finally there is uranium, thorium, and radium, radioactive wastes released from coal burning that serve as a source of radon gas. The impact of this radioactive radon gas from coal burning on the public's health far exceeds the effects of all the radioactive waste released from nuclear plants (see Chapter 12).

The waste produced from a nuclear plant is different from coal-burning wastes in two very spectacular ways. The first is in the quantities involved: the nuclear waste is 5 million times smaller by weight and billions of times smaller by volume. The nuclear waste from 1 year of operation weighs about 1� tons2 and would occupy a volume of half a cubic yard, which means that it would fit under an ordinary card table with room to spare. Since the quantity is so small, it can be handled with a care and sophistication that is completely out of the question for the millions of tons of waste spewed out annually from our analogous coal-burning plant.

The second pronounced difference is that the nuclear wastes are radioactive, providing a health threat by the radiation they emit, whereas the principal dangers to health from coal wastes arise from their chemical activity. This does not mean that the nuclear wastes are more hazardous; on nearly any comparison basis the opposite is true. For example, if all the air pollution emitted from a coal plant in one day were inhaled by people, 1� million people could die from it,3 which is 10 times the number that could be killed by ingesting or inhaling the waste produced in one day by a nuclear plant.4

This is obviously an unrealistic comparison since there is no way in which all of either waste could get into people. A more realistic comparison might be on the basis of simple, cheap, and easy disposal techniques. For coal burning this would be to use no air pollution control measures and simply release the wastes without inhibition. This is not much worse than what we are doing now since the smoke abatement techniques, which are the principal pollution control on most coal-burning plants, contribute little to health protection. We have seen in Chapter 3 that air pollution causes about 75 deaths per year from each plant. Some other comparably serious consequences will be considered later in this chapter.

For nuclear waste, a simple, quick, and easy disposal method would be to convert the waste into a glass — a technology that is well in hand — and simply drop it into the ocean at random locations.5 No one can claim that we don't know how to do that! With this disposal, the waste produced by one power plant in one year would eventually cause an average total of 0.6 fatalities, spread out over many millions of years, by contaminating seafood. Incidentally, this disposal technique would do no harm to ocean ecology. In fact, if all the world's electricity were produced by nuclear power and all the waste generated for the next hundred years were dumped in the ocean, the radiation dose to sea animals would never be increased by as much as 1% above its present level from natural radioactivity.

We thus see that if we compare the nuclear and coal wastes on the basis of cheap, simple, and easy disposal techniques, the coal wastes are (7.5 / 0.06 =) 120 times more harmful to human health than nuclear waste. This treatment ignores some of the long-term health effects of coal burning to be discussed later.

Another, and very different, way of comparing the dangers of nuclear and coal waste is on the basis of how much they are changing our exposures to toxic agents. The typical level of sulfur dioxide in the air of American cities is 10 times higher than natural levels, and the same is true for the principal nitrogen oxides.6 For cancer-causing chemicals the ratio is much higher.7 These are matters that might be of considerable concern in view of the fact that we really do not understand the health effects of these agents very well. For radioactive waste from a flourishing nuclear industry, on the other hand, radiation exposures would be increased by only a tiny fraction of 1% above natural levels.8

Another basis for comparison between the wastes from nuclear and coal burning is the "margin of safety," or how close average exposure is to the point where there is direct evidence for harm to human health. There have been several air pollution episodes in which there were hundreds of excess deaths, with sulfur dioxide levels about 1,000 micrograms per cubic meter,1 whereas levels around 100 micrograms per cubic meter, just 10 times less, are quite common in American cities. For radiation, on the other hand, exposures expected from hypothetical problems with nuclear waste are in the range of 1 mrem or less, tens of thousands of times below those for which there is direct evidence for harm to human health.

All of these comparisons have been intended as an introduction to the subject. Now, let us look into the problem in some detail.



http://www.phyast.pitt.edu/~blc/book/chapter11.html


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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Nuclear power is a reasonably good source of energy, unless the plant blows up or melts down. The problem is that nuclear power has huge consequences if the facility is mismanaged, and they are managed by the govornment.


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And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk ...four times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and its not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire.

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: shroommachine]
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good thing we've developed nuclear power plants that have almost a zero chance of melting down. however, the only country building them is china...

the difference between nuclear power plants and coal power plants are.
1. coal plants put radioactive materials directly into the atmosphere.
2. nuclear power plants keep radioactive materials seal within 15 thick concrete steal reinforced bunkers at either the power plant site or at Yuka mountain.

also if you look at ACTUAL environmental impact of nuclear engery you'll see that it is hardly anything compaired to a coal plant. French Socialist can back me up on this, anyone who has looked at the data compairing the two types of plants clearly sees that nuclear energy is the better alternative.


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"Life sucks but in this really beautiful way" - Axl Rose
"Life's a bitch and then you die that's why we get high cuz you never know when you're gonna go." - NAS
"When people don't know what you're about they put you down and shut you out" - Black Sabbath
"An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind" - Gandhi
"Look up at me I am God, look down on me and I am evil, look at me I am you." - Charles Manson.
"Don't question my reality." - Me (as far as I know)

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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The first is in the quantities involved: the nuclear waste is 5 million times smaller by weight and billions of times smaller by volume. The nuclear waste from 1 year of operation weighs about 1� tons2 and would occupy a volume of half a cubic yard, which means that it would fit under an ordinary card table with room to spare. Since the quantity is so small, it can be handled with a care and sophistication that is completely out of the question for the millions of tons of waste spewed out annually from our analogous coal-burning plant.



Unfortunately, the author chose to ignore the fact that containing all of the nuclear waste in such a small space would have disasterous results.  I would also love to know where he pulled these numbers... I suspect a dark dank place, since he failed to provide a footnote/source.

A more realistic view:

http://www.uic.com.au/wast.htm:
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The vitrified waste from the operation of a 1000 MWe reactor for one year would fill about twelve canisters, each 1.3m high and 0.4m diameter and holding 400 kg of glass. Commercial vitrification plants in France, UK and Belgium produce about 1000 tonnes per year of such vitrified waste




... gotta love this bit ...

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This is obviously an unrealistic comparison since there is no way in which all of either waste could get into people. A more realistic comparison might be on the basis of simple, cheap, and easy disposal techniques.



So why did the author tell us about it if it is an unrealistic comparison.  Perhaps so the author could move on to something other than negative health effects, hoping that we associate negative health effects with 'unrealistic'.

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For nuclear waste, a simple, quick, and easy disposal method would be to convert the waste into a glass — a technology that is well in hand — and simply drop it into the ocean at random locations.



Ah yes, because we all know that glass stops radiation, and even if it doesn't, we all know that nothing lives in the ocean, and even if something does live in the ocean, we know that radiation doesn't cause mutations, and even if it does cause mutaions, we know that mutations aren't that bad, only causing diseases such as cancer, and we know that cancer kills, so safely dumping our glass encased nuclear waste in the ocean is probably a good thing, or something ... heck, the glass only has to hold together and contain the nuclear waste for a few hundred thousand years, and we know how strong glass is... it would never break, and even if it does break, it isn't like the ocean is a liquid that will carry highly radioactive glass particles around the world or anything... :rolleyes:

I'm done reading this... it is a waste of time...

Edit:  Still ranting... and it isn't that we "create glass" from the waste,  rather the waste is mixed in with the glass, creating radioactive glass.  The radioactive nuclear waste doesn't magically disappear, change into something else, or become less radioactive.  It is a bit less dangerous because the glass immobilises the waste.


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Edited by Seuss (03/13/07 03:27 PM)

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: SlashOZ]
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> also if you look at ACTUAL environmental impact of nuclear energy you'll see that it is hardly anything com paired to a coal plant.

Only if you use rose shaded glasses. Do a quick google and look to see the lifetime of a nuclear reactor. Ever wonder how hot one of those is? Ever wonder how long it takes to cool down (radioactively)? What was that about environmental impact?

Looking from another angle... how many EPA superfund sites are based around fossil fuel related sites and how many are based around nuclear related sites. Ah yes, environmental impact again.

Let us not forget the enrichment process. At least we have convenient wars every now and then to get rid of all our low level uranium waste. Seriously, the enrichment process is notoriously dirty. See previous EPA superfund site list.


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: shroommachine]
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You make drugs look bad.


Scientists threatened for 'climate denial'
By Tom Harper, Sunday Telegraph
Last Updated: 12:24am GMT 11/03/2007



Scientists who questioned mankind's impact on climate change have received death threats and claim to have been shunned by the scientific community.

They say the debate on global warming has been "hijacked" by a powerful alliance of politicians, scientists and environmentalists who have stifled all questioning about the true environmental impact of carbon dioxide emissions.

Timothy Ball, a former climatology professor at the University of Winnipeg in Canada, has received five deaths threats by email since raising concerns about the degree to which man was affecting climate change.


One of the emails warned that, if he continued to speak out, he would not live to see further global warming.

"Western governments have pumped billions of dollars into careers and institutes and they feel threatened," said the professor.

"I can tolerate being called a sceptic because all scientists should be sceptics, but then they started calling us deniers, with all the connotations of the Holocaust. That is an obscenity. It has got really nasty and personal."

Last week, Professor Ball appeared in The Great Global Warming Swindle, a Channel 4 documentary in which several scientists claimed the theory of man-made global warming had become a "religion", forcing alternative explanations to be ignored.

Richard Lindzen, the professor of Atmospheric Science at Massachusetts Institute of Technology - who also appeared on the documentary - recently claimed: "Scientists who dissent from the alarmism have seen their funds disappear, their work derided, and themselves labelled as industry stooges.

"Consequently, lies about climate change gain credence even when they fly in the face of the science."

Dr Myles Allen, from Oxford University, agreed. He said: "The Green movement has hijacked the issue of climate change. It is ludicrous to suggest the only way to deal with the problem is to start micro managing everyone, which is what environmentalists seem to want to do."

Nigel Calder, a former editor of New Scientist, said: "Governments are trying to achieve unanimity by stifling any scientist who disagrees. Einstein could not have got funding under the present system."


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/11/ngreen211.xml

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: FrenchSocialist]
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FrenchSocialist said:
zappaisgod said:
Just to inform the ignorant, the electricity for these cars comes mostly from coal fired electric plants.



Depends on where you live. Where I live we use mostly nuclear. Also the plants can change. Also, its still a reduction in carbon emissions.



Since I didn't specify my backyard it was obviously meant as global, as in most electricity generation comes from coal fired plants. As Seuss also pointed out, nuclear has its own issues, although I support its use. Whether it is a reduction or not is of debate. I suspect you are wrong, for the reasons of energy loss due to transfer. You can scrub out some pollutants in power plant stacks but you can do fuck all about CO2.
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zappaisgod said:Who knew? And "increasing the funds allocated to public transport" is most definitely a leftist plot.



To do what exactly? What sinister effect will come from increasing funds for public transportation?



I'm sure you have no problem but I consider wealth redistribution by taxation to be generally sinister in effect. Further, if a service is not worth its cost to its users it should be discontinued. Maybe they should work only within the confines of what they can economically get to. Or they can work for Google which supplies shuttle buses for its workers. OOOOOh, there's a concept, companies that need workers can help pay for the workers to get there. Instead of me. Thank you, thank you very much.
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zappaisgod said:They should be self supporting from the fees paid for their usage. Otherwise it's just welfare. Get in line.



Yeah its easier to lecture people then it is to actually help.



Why should I be compelled to help people I don't know and probably wouldn't like very much anyway against my wishes? You can probably identify with that. My bet is, judging from the deranged PMs you sent me, you wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Minstrel]
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Minstrel said:
I never thought that global warming was human caused, or that these freak weather events are caused by it. Mass and heat transfer laws of equilibrium (2nd of thermodynamics, entropy) says that by increasing the temperature globally, the driving force for weather must decrease.



I took Thermodynamics last semester and heard nothing about this theory. Can you elaborate?
We were taught that heat is energy, wouldn't it be true then that the driving force for weather (especially huge hurricanes and strong storms) would increase with temperature?
Your statement doesn't make sense when you consider hurricanes feed off of the warm oceans of the Atlantic, this shows more heat equals more energy which equals more intense storms...Right?


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: Arp]
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Arp said:
We should store the nuclear waste on the moon. And create a pipeline to space for the co2 emission.



The CO2 pipe line would have to be pretty long to escape the gravity of the earth and a structure that long and slender would be nearly if not completely impossible to construct with todays materials and technology.

As for storing the nuclear waste on the moon I would contend this is a bad idea. It is to close to the earth to make a radioactive dump (not to mention it circles the earth every 24 hours possibly leaving a trail of radioactive molecules in our wake).

I have often wondered if shooting the waste into a black-hole or distant star would be feasible and safe...


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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
Since I didn't specify my backyard it was obviously meant as global, as in most electricity generation comes from coal fired plants. As Seuss also pointed out, nuclear has its own issues, although I support its use. Whether it is a reduction or not is of debate. I suspect you are wrong, for the reasons of energy loss due to transfer. You can scrub out some pollutants in power plant stacks but you can do fuck all about CO2.




Automobiles are the second largest source of co2 pollution in the United States. Coal accounts for approximately 2.5 billion tons of the co2 that is poured into the atmosphere, automobiles account for 1.5 billion. The effect of gas powered cars on the environment is still significant.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

Edited by FrenchSocialist (03/13/07 07:45 PM)

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: zappaisgod]
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zappaisgod said:
I'm sure you have no problem but I consider wealth redistribution by taxation to be generally sinister in effect. Further, if a service is not worth its cost to its users it should be discontinued. Maybe they should work only within the confines of what they can economically get to. Or they can work for Google which supplies shuttle buses for its workers. OOOOOh, there's a concept, companies that need workers can help pay for the workers to get there. Instead of me. Thank you, thank you very much.


Why should I be compelled to help people I don't know and probably wouldn't like very much anyway against my wishes? You can probably identify with that. My bet is, judging from the deranged PMs you sent me, you wouldn't piss on me if I was on fire.



Yeah, companies will have plenty of money to shuttle it's workers back and forth without those pesky minimum wage and worker safety laws. The best part is that the poor people get so poor, the smart corporation will build housing for them, and charge them their whole paychecks for rent, so it's like slavery, but with a tax deduction too..


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And I said, I don't care if they lay me off either, because I told, I told Bill that if they move my desk one more time, then, then I'm, I'm quitting, I'm going to quit. And, and I told Don too, because they've moved my desk ...four times already this year and I used to be over by the window and I could see the squirrels, and they were merry, but then, they switched from the Swingline to the Boston stapler, but I kept my Swingline stapler because it didn't bind up as much and I kept the staples for the Swingline stapler and its not okay because if they take my stapler then I'll set the building on fire.

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Re: global warming bullshit. [Re: shroommachine]
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Companies are held less accountable by the public then governments are. Governments have mechanisms like rule of law, separation of powers, and electoral mechanisms which can be used to curb the effect of raw interests, privately owned companies have no such mechanisms.


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"Both liberty and equality are among the primary goals pursued by human beings through many centuries; but total liberty for wolves is death to the lambs" -- Isaiah Berlin

Edited by FrenchSocialist (03/14/07 01:47 AM)

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