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why is paedophilia so common?
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why is it that some people find their primary sexual interest is children?

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: porcupine]
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It's actually quite rare, but every case (real or suspected) gets enormous amounts of sensationalist news coverage.

But why people are that way? I don't know. Some people like granny porn, some people like furry costumes, some people like children.

Perhaps when they were kids themselves their sexuality was so repressed that they're trying to catch up what they were missing (or what they think they were missing) the rest of their lives.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: koppie]
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koppie said:
It's actually quite rare, but every case (real or suspected) gets enormous amounts of sensationalist news coverage.


i don't know how we are defining rare but according to wikipedia:

The extent to which pedophilia occurs is not known with any certainty. Some studies have concluded that at least a quarter of all adult men may have some feelings of sexual arousal in connection with children.[28] A study by Hall et al. of Kent State University, for example, found that 32.5% of their sample — 80 adult male volunteers, 20% of whom reported some attraction to prepubescent girls — exhibited sexual arousal to heterosexual pedophilic stimuli that equaled or exceeded their arousal to the adult stimuli.[29] Freund et al. (1972) remarked that "with males who have no deviant object preferences, clearly positive sexual reactions occur to [nude] 6- to 8-year old female children."[30]

In 1989 Briere and Runtz conducted a study on 193 male undergraduate students concerning pedophilia. Of the sample, 21% acknowledged sexual attraction to some small children; 9% reported sexual fantasies involving children; 5% admitted masturbating to these fantasies; and 7% conceded some probability of actually having sex with a child if they could avoid detection and punishment. These sexual interests were associated with negative early sexual experiences, masturbation to pornography, self-reported likelihood of raping a woman, frequent sex partners, and attitudes supportive of sexual dominance over women. The authors also noted that "given the probable social undesirability of such admissions, [one could] hypothesize that the actual rates ... were even higher."


so if 7% admitted some probability of having sex with a child, that doesn't sound all that rare to me. that means there are probably even paedophiles who post on these forums.

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: porcupine]
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I always thought pedophilia meant any one under 18 (legal age). Biblical age is 13 I think, and 13 is still legal age to marry in some cultures if I'm not mistaken. So I guess pedophilia is basically flirting with youngsters who are too young to have any kind of sexual response whatsoever?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
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well, thats one definition but im talking more about pedophilia in the sense of molesting actual children (like people under 10). 18 is simply the legal definition i think, i mean there would be nothing pedophilic about me finding a 17 year old girl attractive even though im 22. you could argue a relationship between us would be innappropriate but i think its a wholy different thing to find a 5 year old girl sexually attractive and have your main sexual interest lie in children that age.

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: porcupine]
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If I may Go out on a limb I'd like to say that I thought Mrs. Ramsey a hot number. I don't know the facts of the matter but ley's say there was some pedophile tensions within the family. I'm not judging anyone but there could have been a jealousy that led to that death. What do you think?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: porcupine]
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porcupine said:
why is it that some people find their primary sexual interest is children?


powertrip.
easier to control children, versus adults.

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
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Booby said:
So I guess pedophilia is basically flirting with youngsters who are too young to have any kind of sexual response whatsoever?


Even babies respond to sexual stimuli. In virtually any child with sufficiently developed language skills (unless, as so often happens, said child is taught something equivalent to the "sex is dirty" mantra) Sexual interest can be found. Hell, erections have been witnessed in utero.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: rod]
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You think Jonbennet couldn't be pulling a powertrip?


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is paedophilia so common? [Re: porcupine]
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it is not "common"usually it is the unexpected source which baffles us.and trhere are different types or distinctions.. But the main turn on for them is playing with the innocence of a chold and acting what in their mind is seductively to them ,( the sadistic is in a whole new category and as it is paedophilia has a inherent sadistic component to it, but i mean the killers ) the source is often a family member,usually the parents let the charming sociopath intrude into an assumed position of trust not even thinking of such a thing. an aduklt that displays an unwarented desire to get the kids out from supervision or devising ways to get them away from adulyts is of course suspect.being friendly to kids is not a sighn of paedophilia, overly familiar and scheming ways may be.the worst thing is to think it wont happen.after the adult behaviour pattern is formed it is nearly impossible to extiguish.15 year old's are not children and if they do let an adult goof around it may be indicative of a idiot adult and a curious adolescent.and thats the favorite age of some people, and lately heard women put in prison for it. i dont think the dynamics warrant this.and to step further into the mud , the male as the supoposed initiator is and seeker is usually accused rightly of seduction when the girl is 14 or 15 but that is not paedophilia.some males ewhen left alone with an infant put their penis into its mouth, amongst other things. it a not very nice topic but parents sjhould be aware of adults who express over interest in children. 13 and under. around there.oh neve,mind. also it is a self perpetuating behaviour in that kids then go on to reapeat it to other kids when they are adults, not all do by any neabs abd it is up to them not to perpetuate it in themselves , thats howw to stop, repetition just makes the behaviour stronger.

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Re: is paedophilia so common? [Re: xtiml]
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Where do you get this stuff from?

xtiml said:
.some males ewhen left alone with an infant put their penis into its mouth,



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Re: is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
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as far as I know it is pretty rare - the natural instinct is to protect the young, but there are some african tribes where ongoing child abuse is part of the culture - much like genital mutilation has become an intergenerational practice among semitic and northern african tribes. These primitive rites are very strongly defended by their practitioners but it is child abuse none the less (most mutilation takes place between infancy and the onset of puberty).


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
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Booby said:
I don't know the facts of the matter but ley's say there was some pedophile tensions within the family. I'm not judging anyone but there could have been a jealousy that led to that death. What do you think?


I think you simply do not know the facts of the matter. :smirk:

You are aware that they found the man who expressed that he committed the ("accidental") murder in Thailand, right? He just arrived back in the States and is awaiting trial. It was her school teacher. :wink:

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: fireworks_god]
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Yeah, you can accept what you're told while reserving judgment. Do you think the facts of the matter are known by the 'Spirit World'? And why would there be a division between the World of Spirit and the World of Incarnation anyway?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
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"I'd like to say that I thought Mrs. Ramsey a hot number"

Yeah, but I wouldn't get her too hot...she's been dead for 6 months now.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
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I may never live this down, but I, "Ped", have found myself sexually attracted to children before. Youngest was 10. I was 18. Did I act on it? Of course not. Did anybody get hurt? Nope. Am I a bad person? I don't think so.

I think it's a perfectly normal and natural part of our sexuality. It's when people start acting on those feelings that problems arise. Why is this so? It's because children have not yet come to terms with their own sexuality, and this is a growth process which is vulnerable to interruption should they have sexual experiences, especially negative ones, prematurely. That being said, I think it's important to point out that while it's true children lack the intellectual and emotional capacity to handle the complicated nature of a sexual relationship, it's adults who have made sexuality such a convoluted issue in the first place. The problem is dependent-related. This needs to be recognized.

We are all sexual beings, even children. Sure, our sexuality isn't fully expressed until a certain biological process has reached it's denouement, but that alone is not a cause for these paranoid taboos that exist in our society. The revulsion to sexual feelings about children, as well as the obsession some people develop with those feelings: both of these are equally indicative of a profound and extremely problematic cultural insecurity about the natural and wholly beautiful sexual dimension of being alive.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Ped]
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I may never live this down, but I, "Ped", have found myself sexually attracted to children before. Youngest was 10. I was 18. Did I act on it? Of course not. Did anybody get hurt? Nope. Am I a bad person? I don't think so.


i still think this is different from peadophila. you see, men are attracted to the female form and in some cases anything that resembles a female form (for example drawings, statues, etc). a 10 year old girl isn't fully developed but she's "close enough" to arouse the sexual interest. to me, what characterizers peadophilia is having your main sexual interest lie in children and to actually prefer the undeveloped child figure to the adult figure.

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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Ped]
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I've sometimes looked at young girls and thought "She's going to grow up to be beautiful," which may be a sort of socialized filter in my brain to avoid directly admitting to finding them attratractive.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Silversoul]
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getting the hots for kids is a sure sign your wirings screwy or you've got too much time on your hands - get a job or join the army.

Thinking a pretty girl is going to grow into a beautiful woman isn't paedophillia any more than thinking that if your gf's mom is hot chances are so will your gf when she gets to that age (and if she's an old bag - run like fuck!)


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Roker]
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Roker said:
getting the hots for kids is a sure sign your wirings screwy or you've got too much time on your hands - get a job or join the army.



That would make a great recruiting poster:

Join the army,because society is better off when psychotic perverts have been properly trained in how to kill their fellow human beings.


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