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OfflineXanthas
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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5993503 - 08/24/06 08:27 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
I'll let the smileys talk for me:

:plzdie:

:laser:

Please don't have any kids.




Please refute intelligently. The solution to a bad argument is a better one, not insults. Insult all you want if you actually do, though.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993514 - 08/24/06 08:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Xanthas said:
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KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5993518 - 08/24/06 08:30 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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You are free to present pretty much anything of a philosophical nature you want for consideration - you can even espouse ideas most people would find ludicrous or repugnant. What you can't do is attack the person making the ludicrous or repugnant statements. You can bring to bear all your rhetorical skills and articulate arguments in an attempt to expose the idea under discussion as ludicrous, repugnant or whatever - as a matter of fact you are encouraged to do so - but the acceptable method is to direct all your weaponry at the idea being presented, not at the one presenting the idea.

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I already cleaned up my previous post.

Barring admitted pedophiles from having kids is a good argument in my honest opinion.





Firstly: Hahaha....

Secondly: I'm not a pedophile.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993521 - 08/24/06 08:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

In my honest opinion admitted pedophiles such as yourself should have their hands + dicks castrated, and their lips sewn shut, so that they can cause no harm to young children. Is this a bad proposal?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
    #5993522 - 08/24/06 08:31 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
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KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?




Why the hell is everyone so penetration-oriented? (FYI, it is)


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5993525 - 08/24/06 08:32 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

mattzdope said:
Barring admitted pedophiles from having kids is a good argument in my honest opinion.




Why? Because they might molest their own kids?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5993535 - 08/24/06 08:33 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
In my honest opinion admitted pedophiles such as yourself should have their hands + dicks castrated, and their lips sewn shut, so that they can cause no harm to young children. Is this a bad proposal?




Firstly: Yes. As I've just stated, the solution to a bad argument is a better one. If you can't think of a reason why I'm wrong, you likely are.

Secondly: I'm no kind of pedophile, admittedly or otherwise. Do you have to be black to argue against racism? A women to argue against sexism?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993542 - 08/24/06 08:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Xanthas said:
(FYI, it is)




Surely it wouldn't be pleasurable for a pre-pubescent...Does anyone think different?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
    #5993544 - 08/24/06 08:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?




Lina Medina (born September 27, 1933 in Paurange, Peru) gave birth at the age of 5 years, 7 months and 21 days and is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history. This world record is closely followed by a similar case in Russia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993545 - 08/24/06 08:35 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Xanthas said:
Secondly: I'm no kind of pedophile




Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
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KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?




Why the hell is everyone so penetration-oriented? (FYI, it is)




How do you know this? (in refernce to you saying it is possible to penetrate a nine year old kid)


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Re: dishonesty and evil is common [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993548 - 08/24/06 08:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

"If so, then according to the evidence, the only solution is to immediately de-tabooify child sexuality, thus reducing/eliminating pedophilia.

Encourage your kids to exploratory sex today!

This religious hatred of physical pleasure is worse then crazy/ignorant. It's stupid."

This sounds very much like a victim of sexual abuse turned potential or actual victimizer. Clearly these kinds of statements would not proceed from a parent, certainly not a normal parent. Exploration of one's own body is normal, exploration of sexual intercourse and its variants before moral, emotional, cognitive and socio-cultural developments are matured is destructive of youth.

"Religious hatred" is an oxymoron, and the fact that religious explanations given as justification for hatred exists, it is too is a clearly pathological condition. "Religious hatred of physical pleasure" usually entails a form of sexual masochism cast in a mindset that is medieval in its exaggeration of an ascetic ideal. However, these words which appear to condemn religious models of self-control over the instinctual life actually say something else. These words minimalize and marginalize human sexuality, reducing the phenomenon to mere physical sensations of pleasure. Since atheism is an aberration belonging to modernity, an atheistic position fails to understand the breadth and depth of the human condition. Human sexuality from time immemorial has been viewed as having a legitimate place within certain cultural contexts, but deeper still has been its place in the domain of 'the sacred.'

Without a working understanding of 'the sacred' versus 'the profane,' an individual is grossly handicapped in any real understanding of the human condition. Such a person will relate to others with a shallowness of character and values such that any other human being with even a moderate view to spirituality will avoid any attempt at a deep relationship for the simple fact that the atheist admits of no depth (or height, whichever metaphor is chosen)!

The ethics and moral of the professing atheist likewise have serious limitations and may rest upon mere cultural and moral relativism. Not someone I would want to (figuratively) turn my back to, or trust with any degree of depth. These mores would not be welcome around any parents and especially not around their children. Sexual taboos are an important part of normal human sexual development. They have purely biological values in the avoidance of incest and genetic damage at a foundational level, but such taboos also form the basis of civilization and human societies from the tribal organization and upward in complexity. Questioning sexual taboos are an immediate red flag to anyone trained in psychoanalytic forms of psychotherapy. That says a great deal about the person professing such ideas - it is never just academic.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: THE KRAT BARON]
    #5993550 - 08/24/06 08:37 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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mattzdope said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
Secondly: I'm no kind of pedophile




Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?




Why the hell is everyone so penetration-oriented? (FYI, it is)




How do you know this? (in refernce to you saying it is possible to penetrate a nine year old kid)




As I've said in this thread before, several times, I was rather sexually active as a kid.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: RRRR]
    #5993552 - 08/24/06 08:38 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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RRRR said:
Lina Medina (born September 27, 1933 in Paurange, Peru) gave birth at the age of 5 years, 7 months and 21 days and is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history. This world record is closely followed by a similar case in Russia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina




So she wasn't pre-pubescent altho very young. Can pre-pubescent girls conceive?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
    #5993560 - 08/24/06 08:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
(FYI, it is)




Surely it wouldn't be pleasurable for a pre-pubescent...Does anyone think different?




I know different. Nobody reads the previous posts? I had a lot of sex as a kid. I don't think a girl of five has yet learned to fake orgasm.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Booby]
    #5993562 - 08/24/06 08:40 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Booby said:
Quote:

RRRR said:
Lina Medina (born September 27, 1933 in Paurange, Peru) gave birth at the age of 5 years, 7 months and 21 days and is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history. This world record is closely followed by a similar case in Russia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lina_Medina




So she wasn't pre-pubescent altho very young. Can pre-pubescent girls conceive?




Nope.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993568 - 08/24/06 08:42 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

you had sex with a 5 yr old?


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: KingOftheThing]
    #5993572 - 08/24/06 08:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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KingOftheThing said:
you had sex with a 5 yr old?




As a 5 year old, yes. Or I might've been six. Or four. It was a long time ago.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993574 - 08/24/06 08:43 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

mattzdope said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
Secondly: I'm no kind of pedophile




Quote:

Xanthas said:
Quote:

Booby said:
Quote:

Xanthas said:
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KingOftheThing said:
wait if you have a 9yr old girl and a 40 yr old guy who is disease free wants to fuck her...and your daughter says yes, you're ok with a guy fucking a 9yr old?




I'd allow/disallow it depending on the guy in question/laws at the time/whatever the circumstances happen to be. But I wouldn't immediately bar it from happening.




I wouldn't think it's even possible with a nine year-old or younger. Is it?




Why the hell is everyone so penetration-oriented? (FYI, it is)




How do you know this? (in refernce to you saying it is possible to penetrate a nine year old kid)




As I've said in this thread before, several times, I was rather sexually active as a kid.




So apparently I have to take your word that the nine year old you had sex with as a kid enjoyed it. OK, you were kids and there really wasn't much going on down there in the way of size. A 40 year old would be an entirely different matter.


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993575 - 08/24/06 08:44 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

i dont like you


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Re: why is paedophilia so common? [Re: Xanthas]
    #5993587 - 08/24/06 08:47 PM (15 years, 4 months ago)

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Xanthas said:
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KingOftheThing said:
you had sex with a 5 yr old?




As a 5 year old, yes. Or I might've been six. Or four. It was a long time ago.




You had sex as a 5 year old? (I think I've passed my credibility horizon.)


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