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Offlinetoo_many_weirdos
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Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?)
    #592001 - 03/28/02 03:07 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I have some Soy protein stuff lying around (i'm a vegetarian), and i'm wondering if adding like a 1/4 cup or something to my regular PF substrate would increase crop and/or alkaloid content...

anyone?


p.s. sorry about the cross-post; regular cultivation forum is useless, and my post got swamped quick.

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Offlinetoo_many_weirdos
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
    #594326 - 03/31/02 06:29 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

^BUMP^

man you guys are lame...come on...
doesn't somebody know if this would be a good addition to my substrate?

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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
    #594342 - 03/31/02 07:11 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

The only way to find out is experiment with it and if any good share your results.


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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
    #594344 - 03/31/02 07:15 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

soy protein is widely used in mushroom industry as supplement...but it won't work in pf jars...you need to add the proteins to a bulk substrate when spawning..

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Offlinetoo_many_weirdos
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
    #594364 - 03/31/02 07:53 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Muchas gracias senores =)

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Invisiblemycofile
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: too_many_weirdos]
    #594366 - 03/31/02 07:57 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Not really sure, but if it's like corn gluten then you will want to heat it. Read a patent recently that said that corn gluten which wasn't cooked sucked as an additive. Something about denaturing it or something. If you are adding to jars, I gues it will get heated enough during sterilization. If you are using it for bulks, try cooking it first.

And I don't know why it wouldn't work in pf jars.


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    #594973 - 03/31/02 09:19 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)



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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: Macey Howard]
    #595168 - 04/01/02 02:44 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

I've tried adding nutrients. LOL. Best to keep it simple & straight forward.

But, since your into veggies & grains, popped popcorn added to compost works great. Grin, w/hot air popper, you can really pop up a huge garbage bag full in no time at all & it's cheap. It also holds water -- well.

Ever use Lucerne meal? I am about to test that out in a quasi/compost.

Meaning -- chopped straw, manure, Lucerne meal, popcorn mix. Lightly composted, then sterilized. A small amount of pasturized only straw is going to be added after cooling to reintroduce the good things sterilization takes away from a substrate.

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InvisibleChampion des Champignons
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
    #595186 - 04/01/02 03:11 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

...and you can do this without getting contams galore?
Tell me more.....


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InvisibleSixTango
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #595209 - 04/01/02 03:50 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

What's to tell. It's a test of quasi/compost. Just sterlized. Then a small amount of pasturized straw is introduduced into the sterilized compost, then colonized grain added 20% grain to 80% compost, then after it is all colonized, it will be cased.

BlueHoney had it in one of her compost write ups. Hers just lacked the popcorn & pasturized straw was not introduced. Simple as that. I'm working on it now. If you like I will EM you the results of my little test.

SixTango -- out

Off topic, I have tried 15 times to post a logo picture where the X is in my posts. Is there some secret to it. I upload the picture - C&P the data & always get an X?


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InvisibleChampion des Champignons
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: SixTango]
    #595213 - 04/01/02 04:14 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

actually I was talking to Club99....
as for uploading avatars, make sure it's less than 125k and in. jpeg or .gif format, with no spaces in the title


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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #595372 - 04/01/02 09:29 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

you must sterilize the supplement before adding it to the bulk substrate...btw i'm talking about stuff like spawnmate wich is soy protein based...

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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: SixTango]
    #595374 - 04/01/02 09:32 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

simply cut and paste this link for your avatar : http://shroomery.org/wwwthreads/files/36524-f18.jpg
the link you provided is wrong....check the properties over the "x"

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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
    #595381 - 04/01/02 09:57 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

Many thanks to you CluB99.

I simply followed the instructions. LOL. Except, I was following the WRONG ones.

SixTango -- out


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InvisibleChampion des Champignons
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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: CLuB99]
    #595410 - 04/01/02 10:44 AM (22 years, 2 months ago)

hmm, so I'm guessing that plain old soya mince from the health food shop will not do the job?
Sounded too good to be true.....


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Re: Adding soy protein isolate to substrate (?) [Re: Champion des Champignons]
    #595668 - 04/01/02 03:46 PM (22 years, 2 months ago)

another good supplement is rape seed.
There's a patent about it, they dry in the oven the seeds to eliminate germination,then is added when spawning
mmm quite sure that there's no need to sterilize it.

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