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mrlinus41
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American Drinking Age
#5594929 - 05/05/06 05:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Help lower it, www.18todrink.com, and write your congressman. All of europe has a lower drinking age, its a stupid law. Thanks
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5594954 - 05/05/06 05:18 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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No thanks Ill pass.
What I would like to see is the driving age raised to 18.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: DieCommie]
#5594959 - 05/05/06 05:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DieCommie said: No thanks Ill pass.
What I would like to see is the driving age raised to 18.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5594991 - 05/05/06 05:25 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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More people die from car accidents every year then handguns, yet you have to be 21 to buy a handgun and only 16 to drive 
About the alcohol, the reason the age was raised to 21 was the feds forced it to try to save lives on the road. And it did. Since the drinking age has been raised to 21 tens of thousands of people are living now that would have been dead. People under 21 still can and do drink with little chance of getting a ticket, they just have to do it at home not the bar.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: DieCommie]
#5595038 - 05/05/06 05:42 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Also note that Europe has much better public transportation, so drunk driving isn't as big an issue over there.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: DieCommie]
#5595043 - 05/05/06 05:43 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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poster < 21 ?
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: kotik]
#5595104 - 05/05/06 06:00 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes, I'm less then 21. If we outlawed McDonalds and all junk food, that would also save lives. In fact, I think any doctor will tell you that it is safe to say that without junk food we would be a much healthier nation, and millions of people would not have crippling heart disease. However, we are not a country where the government makes decisions for us. I am over the age of 18, and I can buy a home, fight for my country, be eligible for the draft if it was called for, start a family, have kids (and raise this country's future leaders), and a multitude of other things. I find it un-American for the government to tell me whether I can or can not drink. I am surprised at the response to this post on this forum, I would have expect people on such an "open-minded" type of forum to be much more understanding. I guess I was wrong.
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Edited by mrlinus41 (05/05/06 06:02 PM)
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5595127 - 05/05/06 06:06 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Maybe because this is an "open-minded" forum you should expect diverse answers that dont agree with your beliefs.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5595136 - 05/05/06 06:07 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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heh, save the arguments. I was IN the military complaining about the same thing when I was under 21, AND dealing with the prospect of a baby (which ended up not being mine).
in all honesty though, i did most of my drinking before i turned 21, didnt even drink on my 21st birthday, and still dont have as much desire to now, as I did when I was younger.
something about seeing the same people at the bars over and over again just kills all the magic.
PLEASE believe me when I say I'm open minded, but giving a teenager all these freedoms at once is not a good option in my opinion. Perhaps if there was more emphasis on the dangers of addiction and etc, it wouldnt be so much of a problem... but considering how our society looks at alcohol (as recreation) and then mix that with the common mischief of a high-school senior... well its unfortunate that one bad apple ruins the bunch... but I can't think of a reason to put more alcohol into the hands of those just beginning to enter society.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5595138 - 05/05/06 06:08 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Touche, but taht wasn't a counter argument to what I said. edit: That was my response to die commie, i was writing it before i saw the second post.
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Edited by mrlinus41 (05/05/06 06:10 PM)
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5595156 - 05/05/06 06:13 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I'm about 1000000000000 times more interested in making power plants legal for those over 21...
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: EquilibriuM]
#5595547 - 05/05/06 08:05 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Only if you serve in the military......
They took the privilage away right before I enlisted.....
you mean I can throw grenades and fire my M-16....but not have a beer?
Why can you vote when your eighteen?
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: SirTripAlot]
#5595929 - 05/05/06 09:49 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
you mean I can throw grenades and fire my M-16....but not have a beer?
Why can you vote when your eighteen?
Soccer moms.
I'm under the drinking age, but I still manage to successfully have my alcohol daily if I like. It's a silly law, but it lets the evangelists sleep tighter at night.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: bukkake]
#5596024 - 05/05/06 10:17 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Check your local laws......
When I grew up in Michigan, it was legal for an 18 year old to brew his own beer........
I loved that law.......
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: DieCommie]
#5596603 - 05/06/06 12:40 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
DieCommie said: No thanks Ill pass.
What I would like to see is the driving age raised to 18.
I just want to see the voting age raised to 25.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5596648 - 05/06/06 12:58 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I agree that the Government should have no say over what I put into my body once I hit the age of 18. As a "legal adult" I should have every right to fuck up my body as long as no one else is hurt in the process. The problem is that not only to we strive for freedom, but also humanity. Its bullshit, but it saves lives so the chances of it getting reversed is unrealistic. I have no problem with the Government saving lives, but it shouldnt be inconsistent about it. If they outlaw drinking at a young age, they should outlaw driving, eating unhealthy, contact sports, ect. at young ages. But they dont. Because of that, I say either change it, or change every inconsistancy to keep it.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: mrlinus41]
#5596887 - 05/06/06 03:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Raising the driving age to 18 sounds like a great idea to me.
Lowering the drinking age to 18 sounds good to me as well. At 18 you can vote. You can join the military. You bcan legaly enter into contracts. Yes, by all means, lower the drinking age to 18.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: gregorio]
#5596990 - 05/06/06 05:31 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can get drunk, vote for Gary Coleman,, and then sign a contract binding me to 5 years as a meat-shield in the marines.
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: Konnrade]
#5597016 - 05/06/06 06:09 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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raise the driving age to 18 then u have a bunch of terrible 18 year old drivers raise the driving age to 21 then u have a bunch of terrible 21 years old drivers ....
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Re: American Drinking Age [Re: fresh313]
#5597027 - 05/06/06 06:20 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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The lowered minimum drinking age hasn't actually reduced the proportion of under-21s who start drinking.
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