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Godless Americans Political Action Comittee
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http://www.godlessamericans.org

I saw this group twice on C-span this week.
I'm glad this group exist. I'm glad that other people were scared when Bush senior said non-believers shouldn't be citizens and when Joe lieberman said non-believers have no morals


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: Floyd_]
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I'm glad that other people were scared when Bush senior said non-believers shouldn't be citizens


Urban myth. There's no record of that actually happening. I've never heard about the other incident, so I can neither confirm nor deny that one. I do agree, however, that we should be concerned about those who think the first ammendment only protects the Christian religion.


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: silversoul7]
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silversoul7 said:
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I'm glad that other people were scared when Bush senior said non-believers shouldn't be citizens


Urban myth. There's no record of that actually happening. I've never heard about the other incident, so I can neither confirm nor deny that one. I do agree, however, that we should be concerned about those who think the first ammendment only protects the Christian religion.


I think that we should take a vote to make America as it was (the America that you said the neo-cons stole from you). A white nation where freedoms and moral values are both existing. Murrah Rothstein wouldn't own the media outlets that are telling our kids how great homosexuality and interracial relationships are, while at the same time pouring his funds to Israel where mixing ethnicities is known to be a bad idea. An America where the NAACP isn't nominating a person who made a video pissing on underage kids who were fucking for an "image" award. An America where AIDS isn't spreading like wildfire, because people have the common sense not to fuck someone they just met. An America where people aren't scared of criminals, an America where criminals are scared of the armed populace. An America where high schools actually teach kids. An America where high schools aren't filled with minorities detracting from teh education of white kids who's parents, most likely, paid for the school. An America where people have the balls to stand up to depraved morality, rather than cowering in the face of them and explaining the rationale for doing so. An America where people work to produce for themselves and their families, not where people work and they are compelled to pay for lazy minorities.

Sadly, the vote won't do this. One thing will, and I'm glad that my gun safe is filled with them.

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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I think that we should take a vote to make America as it was


At what point in history?
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A white nation where freedoms and moral values are both existing.


What do you mean when you say a "white nation"? One where there were only whites around(never existed)? Or one where whites brutally oppressed other races(still exists in certain parts of the country)?
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Murrah Rothstein wouldn't own the media outlets that are telling our kids how great homosexuality and interracial relationships are, while at the same time pouring his funds to Israel where mixing ethnicities is known to be a bad idea.


Are you aware of Thomas Jefferson's many black children? I do agree it would be great to go back before we started supporting Israel.
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An America where the NAACP isn't nominating a person who made a video pissing on underage kids who were fucking for an "image" award.


Forgive me for not following the news too closely, but who are you talking about?
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An America where AIDS isn't spreading like wildfire, because people have the common sense not to fuck someone they just met.


Promiscuity has always existed to a certain extent. AIDS, however, is relatively new.
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An America where people aren't scared of criminals, an America where criminals are scared of the armed populace.


Well, you certainly aren't talking about the Wild West here. People have always been scared of criminals.
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An America where high schools actually teach kids.


For most of American history, the majority of the population was uneducated.
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An America where high schools aren't filled with minorities detracting from teh education of white kids who's parents, most likely, paid for the school.


You can't leave that hood off for more than a couple minutes, can you? I love how you misspelled "the" in a sentence talking about how minorities are detracting from white people's education.
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An America where people have the balls to stand up to depraved morality, rather than cowering in the face of them and explaining the rationale for doing so.


And what depraved morality would that be? The anti-slavery movement?
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An America where people work to produce for themselves and their families, not where people work and they are compelled to pay for lazy minorities.



First of all, there are plenty of white people on welfare too. Also, it was probably easier to find work in a time when jobs weren't being exported overseas so rapidly.
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Sadly, the vote won't do this. One thing will, and I'm glad that my gun safe is filled with them.


If people like you ran this country, I'd go out and buy a gun too, just to shoot myself in the head.


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: silversoul7]
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At what point in history?



I was actually alluding to your comment of how America was when the founding fathers "made" it, before the "neocons" stole it.
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What do you mean when you say a "white nation"? One where there were only whites around(never existed)? Or one where whites brutally oppressed other races(still exists in certain parts of the country)?



One where Whites are in charge of their own destiny. I am strongly apposed to "brutal oppression" in any way shape or form. Each ethnicity should have their own nation in which to flourish and preserve their culture.
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Are you aware of Thomas Jefferson's many black children? I do agree it would be great to go back before we started supporting Israel.



hah! I'm assuming you are alluding to the DNA tests that said that "A" JEFFERSON, not thomas jefferson specifically, fathered babies with their negro slaves. If you read something about those tests (that test, actually), you'd see that it only said that "A JEFFERSON" in the region was the father. Heaven forbid you mention that when you can slander a founding father... Also, so what? I don't mind getting some asian poon from time to time, but I'm not wanting to mesh Asia and America into one rootless amalgamon.
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Forgive me for not following the news too closely, but who are you talking about?



The NAACP Image Awards, R Kelly was nominated. The NAACP thinks that a pedophile that is into, I can't even think of a scientific name for it, "water sports, I suppose, is a good image and role model for young negros.
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Promiscuity has always existed to a certain extent. AIDS, however, is relatively new.



Sure, and murder has always existed to a certain extent. That doesn't make todays rampant numbers acceptable.
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Well, you certainly aren't talking about the Wild West here. People have always been scared of criminals.



I'm not "scared" of criminals. Didn't you say in your other post that only people who buy handguns ro take karate display this form of "paranoia"? Are you "scared" of crimnals?
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For most of American history, the majority of the population was uneducated.



They were as educated as they needed to be for the times. I'd say that the youth of yesteryear had the same amount of knowledge as todays youth could have, it was just focused on farming and homesteading, rather than gangsta rap and capping homies that diss your posse.
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You can't leave that hood off for more than a couple minutes, can you? I love how you misspelled "the" in a sentence talking about how minorities are detracting from white people's education.



The spelling game? Seriously, you are smarter than that. I always misspell the, and I always misspell it the same way. I think it's because the closeness of the characters and my speed of typing. If niggers want to live in the hood, thats fine, we should just relocate the hoods to Africa so when their violence and ignorance spills over, it stays with their own kind.
edit: I misread and thought that you meant that I can't stay off the topic of "hoods" for a minute, not my personal hood. I am not now nor have I ever been a supporter of what the KKK became after the early to mid part of thie century, and I mean the non-violent group that sponsored events to encourage white people to learn about and care about their history. Most of them now are ignorant christians running around yeehawing about the uneducated nigras while they are living in a trailer. I certaintly do not fall into this category. Why are you using prejudice and stereotypes, isn't that what I'm supposed to do?
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And what depraved morality would that be? The anti-slavery movement?



Interesting how you go from quoting jefferson to denouncing him to bringing up slavery. Maybe you could read some quotes about minorities from TJeff.
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First of all, there are plenty of white people on welfare too. Also, it was probably easier to find work in a time when jobs weren't being exported overseas so rapidly.



Those white people would be given a choice of working or starving. I personally wouldn't feel bad about making a donation out of each paycheck to a welfare-fund (A DONATION, mind you) if I knew it was supporting members of my "extended family".
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If people like you ran this country, I'd go out and buy a gun too, just to shoot myself in the head.


we'd save you the trouble.

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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TheOneYouKnow said:
silversoul7 said:
At what point in history?



I was actually alluding to your comment of how America was when the founding fathers "made" it, before the "neocons" stole it.


My comment was about the loss of freedom in this country.
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What do you mean when you say a "white nation"?  One where there were only whites around(never existed)?  Or one where whites brutally oppressed other races(still exists in certain parts of the country)?



One where Whites are in charge of their own destiny.  I am strongly apposed to "brutal oppression" in any way shape or form.  Each ethnicity should have their own nation in which to flourish and preserve their culture.


:lol: It's so funny you actually think whites in this country aren't in charge of their own destiny.  White people still run this country.  Relax.
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Are you aware of Thomas Jefferson's many black children?  I do agree it would be great to go back before we started supporting Israel.



hah! I'm assuming you are alluding to the DNA tests that said that "A" JEFFERSON, not thomas jefferson specifically, fathered babies with their negro slaves.  If you read something about those tests (that test, actually), you'd see that it only said that "A JEFFERSON" in the region was the father. Heaven forbid you mention that when you can slander a founding father...  Also, so what? I don't mind getting some asian poon from time to time, but I'm not wanting to mesh Asia and America into one rootless amalgamon.


So you think it's alright to have sex with other races, as long as you don't have children?
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Forgive me for not following the news too closely, but who are you talking about?



The NAACP Image Awards, R Kelly was nominated.  The NAACP thinks that a pedophile that is into, I can't even think of a scientific name for it, "water sports,  I suppose, is a good image and role model for young negros.


Ok, I admit that's a pretty shitty decision.  Oh well.  It's no worse a decision than electing Bush for president.
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Promiscuity has always existed to a certain extent.  AIDS, however, is relatively new.



Sure, and murder has always existed to a certain extent. That doesn't make todays rampant numbers acceptable.


Actually, the murder rate was much higher in the Middle Ages than it is today.
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Well, you certainly aren't talking about the Wild West here.  People have always been scared of criminals.



I'm not "scared" of criminals.  Didn't you say in your other post that only people who buy handguns ro take karate display this form of "paranoia"? Are you "scared" of crimnals?


In a sense, yes I'm scared of criminals, but I'm not paranoid enough to worry about some danger lurking in every corner.
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For most of American history, the majority of the population was uneducated.



They were as educated as they needed to be for the times.  I'd say that the youth of yesteryear had the same amount of knowledge as todays youth could have, it was just focused on farming and homesteading, rather than gangsta rap and capping homies that diss your posse.


Um, that's not what they're teaching kids in school.
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You can't leave that hood off for more than a couple minutes, can you?  I love how you misspelled "the" in a sentence talking about how minorities are detracting from white people's education.



The spelling game? Seriously, you are smarter than that. I always misspell the, and I always misspell it the same way. I think it's because the closeness of the characters and my speed of typing.  If niggers want to live in the hood, thats fine, we should just relocate the hoods to Africa so when their violence and ignorance spills over, it stays with their own kind.


When I mentioned the hood, I meant the white one you wear to cross-burnings.
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And what depraved morality would that be?  The anti-slavery movement?



Interesting how you go from quoting jefferson to denouncing him to bringing up slavery.  Maybe you could read some quotes about minorities from TJeff.


You want some Jefferson quotes about slavery and about minorities?  Knock yourself out.
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First of all, there are plenty of white people on welfare too.  Also, it was probably easier to find work in a time when jobs weren't being exported overseas so rapidly.



Those white people would be given a choice of working or starving. I personally wouldn't feel bad about making a donation out of each paycheck to a welfare-fund (A DONATION, mind you) if I knew it was supporting members of my "extended family".


How "extended" would that family be?  If you extended it as far as 5th or 6th cousins, you'd be surprised how many people you're related to.
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If people like you ran this country, I'd go out and buy a gun too, just to shoot myself in the head.


we'd save you the trouble.


How did I know you were going to say that?


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: silversoul7]
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silversoul7 said:
My comment was about the loss of freedom in this country.



You really have a problem saying what you mean.  When I have time, I'll find your EXACT quote, how you wanted the country the way our founding fathers did.
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:lol: It's so funny you actually think whites in this country aren't in charge of their own destiny.  White people still run this country.  Relax.



Yes, but whites in the country that I imagine wouldn't think it's great and good the our culture was being replaced by negro "culture".
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So you think it's alright to have sex with other races, as long as you don't have children?



I wouldn't do anything to stop someoen from interracial relationships, I just don't think that the offspring are that lucky. I 'm pretty proud to say that all of my ancestors contributed to society, rather than saying that they are still in Affica starving and living in horse-shit houses.  Why didn't you address the point of TJeffersons nigger kid?
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Ok, I admit that's a pretty shitty decision.  Oh well.  It's no worse a decision than electing Bush for president.



The election of a governor to the position of president is comparable to the NAACP saying that a pedophilic, corprophiliaic is a "role model"? Are you on something?
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Actually, the murder rate was much higher in the Middle Ages than it is today.



Prove it.
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Um, that's not what they're teaching kids in school.



No, thats what the OEJ (the TV) is teaching kids at home. School just reinforces it.
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When I mentioned the hood, I meant the white one you wear to cross-burnings.



As much as I'd like to see Christian images destroyed, I'm certaintly not going to go to a meeting like that.  A well dressed man just acn't get those robes to drape properly.  If you are worried about "White supreimists" in America, and you are looking under hoods, you are going the wrong way.  I'd be more worried about the white sepretist who is going to school, popular, wealthy, and an avid gun owner, and has military experience. :smile: Guess who?
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You want some Jefferson quotes about slavery and about minorities?  Knock yourself out.



"Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people [blacks] are to be free. Nor is it less certain that the two races, equally free, cannot live in the same government. Nature, habit, opinion has drawn indelible lines of distinction between them." --Thomas Jefferson: Autobiography, 1821. ME 1:72

Intersting quote. More interesting that they left off the "Nor is it..." from the Jefferson memorial, changes the WHOLe meaning when you see that, huh?  So are you for Jefferson, or against him?
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How "extended" would that family be?  If you extended it as far as 5th or 6th cousins, you'd be surprised how many people you're related to.



the family that looks like my people :smile:
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How did I know you were going to say that?


Must be your education :smile:

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: silversoul7]
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I know this post has moved on into TOYK-land but in regard to the original assertations about what Bush Sr. said and Lieberman said I'll say this. I never saw the Bush quote anywhere but Lieberman did actually say that without God there are no morals. Reported in the NY Times during the 2000 campaign. It was somewhat buried (what a surprise by the Times) but it was definitely there and I went fucking nuts. God is on both their sides, Democrat and Republican. They both suck.


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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It was filled with natives long before it was filled with whites. Why don't we have all non-natives deported?

Before whites showed up, the nation was cleaner, the environment was practically untouched, and they had never been at war with another nation.

"An America where AIDS isn't spreading like wildfire, because people have the common sense not to fuck someone they just met."

Interesting to note: The US is the only first world country where there is an active opposition to sex education in schools, where abstinance education is mandatory, where you can't show naked breasts on network television... and it has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country.

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2004/02/24/abstinence/index_np.html
http://www.cnn.com/2004/HEALTH/parenting/03/09/abstinence.study.ap/


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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As a person of mixed race I find your comments extremely distasteful. You obviously are quite deluded, silversoul easily struck down every single one of your pseudo-arguments, yet you continue to throw out insubstantial bigoted spew. I hope you receive the banning you deserve, I'm almost certain you are a puppet of some sort. Also, please refrain from using the word 'nigger' in a derogatory fashion in the politics forum.


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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"I 'm pretty proud to say that all of my ancestors contributed to society, rather than saying that they are still in Affica starving and living in horse-shit houses."

Most european people were farmers and peasants, just like most african people. Whether they "contributed to society" by hunting, farming, or building houses makes no difference. Just because the europeans had more advanced technology does not mean that they had contributed more to the greater good. A lot of the european technology was developed out of necessity, and not due to superior brain power, or advanced physical ability.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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"Most of them now are ignorant christians running around yeehawing about the uneducated nigras while they are living in a trailer. I certaintly do not fall into this category."

Maybe we should send those trailer parks back to europe where they came from, so their violence and ignorance can spill over into their own kind.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: Phluck]
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Another thing that should be noted: mixed race people are statistically less likely to have birth defects, and more likely to be physically and mentally fit.

It's the same principal that makes incest a bad idea: a wider genetic selection allows for more of the better genes to be used.

Being opposed to interracial relationships has no basis other than blind prejudice.

To anyone who wants to bitch and whine about white culture being in decline; you're clinging to the past, and it's not only useless, it's pathetic. Culture is in constant change, the whitebread, happy, peaceful america of the past was a myth anyways. Black culture is more influential now than it has been in the past, and if you don't like it, find another country.


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"I have no valid complaint against hustlers. No rational bitch. But the act of selling is repulsive to me. I harbor a secret urge to whack a salesman in the face, crack his teeth and put red bumps around his eyes." -Hunter S Thompson
http://phluck.is-after.us

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: Phluck]
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Phluck said:
It was filled with natives long before it was filled with whites. Why don't we have all non-natives deported?



Fair enough, whites can have europe, the native Americans can have mexico and most of the USA, and the natives from the northern regions can have canada. Blacks would have lower africa, arabs would have the middle east, jews would have israel, etc. Of course, we'd take our things with us.
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Before whites showed up, the nation was cleaner, the environment was practically untouched, and they had never been at war with another nation.



I'd recommend an American History class. You are using the word "they" to describe the numerous non-affiliated tribes living in the land mass that is present day Canada, Mexico and the USA. You can't use a "they" for those people, because "they" were not a single entity. The "they" you allude to were made up of numerous tribes that did frequently war with each other. If you think that "they" were all one big organization of Indians sitting around loving the environment and hating war, you are quite mistaken.

The environment was no more abused by the initial whites that came, either. It was the industrial revolution with similar events happening in Asian lands, where the Indians "came from", racially.
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Interesting to note: The US is the only first world country where there is an active opposition to sex education in schools, where abstinance education is mandatory, where you can't show naked breasts on network television... and it has the highest teen pregnancy rate in the country.



Probably also the other nation where the main music channels have to censor the majority of songs that they put on the air as well. I think that exposing children to sexuality is a healthy thing, and I'm not against behavior that some might consider "promiscious", it's only when things are taken to an extreme that I have a problem. I think that sex education is, honestly, the duty of the parents to explain. Our parents didn't need a class in school because their parents had a parent/child that today's TV families do not. When I was 11 or 12, my father sat down and explained the 'facts of life' to me, I didn't need a class for it. I was always able to be open about anything with him, so their never was a problem with me not knowing something or being afraid to ask something. I think that, ideally, this is how all parent/child relationships should be, thus eliminating the need for the sex education classes at school. Fix the problem, not the symptom.

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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Fair enough, whites can have europe, the native Americans can have mexico and most of the USA, and the natives from the northern regions can have canada. Blacks would have lower africa, arabs would have the middle east, jews would have israel, etc. Of course, we'd take our things with us.



Ok, so by your logic why don't we push this even further back into history when there was only one race of people living in Mesopotamia or wherever they resided (Africa perhaps, it hasn't been determined I don't believe).  Racial diversity didn't occur until humans dispersed into different environments.  What is your obsession with keeping pure racial bloodlines, you sound like Hitler.  :yawn:


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: bert]
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Ok, so by your logic why don't we push this even further back into history when there was only one race of people living in Mesopotamia or wherever they resided (Africa perhaps, it hasn't been determined I don't believe).  Racial diversity didn't occur until humans dispersed into different environments.  What is your obsession with keeping pure racial bloodlines, you sound like Hitler.  :yawn:


Why don't we push farther back when we were all monkies?  I really dislike the Hitler comparison, I'm not a socialist at all, and I would rather live in an American cesspool of minority scumbags (not all of them are, just saying...) then live in a nation where teh government sanctioned the killing of a certain race of people.

Also, uh, where did I say anything about keeping "pure racial bloodlines"?  I love how people's minds automatically think "racist", and their OEJ'ed impressions of a racist come up, and they start arguing against that. It's like you are mentioning Hitler, when I am adamently apposed to "most" of what he stood for.

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Ok, so by your logic why don't we push this even further back into history when there was only one race of people living in Mesopotamia or wherever they resided (Africa perhaps, it hasn't been determined I don't believe).


There are two competing theories: the "out of Africa" theory, which says homosapiens evolved in Africa and spread out, and another theory which says homo sapiens evolved separately in different places. The "out of Africa" theory currently seems to have more support from the scientific community.

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What is your obsession with keeping pure racial bloodlines, you sound like Hitler.


Except Hitler was a lot more intelligent.


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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: silversoul7]
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silversoul7 said:
There are two competing theories: the "out of Africa" theory, which says homosapiens evolved in Africa and spread out, and another theory which says homo sapiens evolved separately in different places. The "out of Africa" theory currently seems to have more support from the scientific community.



Yes, homo sapiens came from africa, those that stayed, didn't evolve.Isn't that what your little theory would lead to? :-)
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Except Hitler was a lot more intelligent.


Should I bring up the "pistols aren't used for hunting" discussion, or the "Founding Fathers were NOT christian" thing again? Where you wre wrong on both counts? Please.

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Re: Godless Americans Political Action Comittee [Re: TheOneYouKnow]
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It's like you are mentioning Hitler, when I am adamently apposed to "most" of what he stood for.


Do you agree with him on some things that he stood for?


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In the beginning was the word. And man could not handle the word, and the hearing of the word, and he asked God to take away his ears so that he might live in peace without having to hear words which might upset his equinamity or corrupt the unblemished purity of his conscience.

And God, hearing this desperate plea from His creation, wrinkled His mighty brow for a moment and then leaned down toward man, beckoning that he should come close so as to hear all that was about to be revealed to him.

"Fuck you," He whispered, and frowned upon the pathetic supplicant before retreating to His heavens.

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Edame said:
It's like you are mentioning Hitler, when I am adamently apposed to "most" of what he stood for.


Do you agree with him on some things that he stood for?


"some"? Hitler invented the autobahn that millions of people use each year, are they Nazi supporters because of that? He wanted a living space for the white race, I'd say I agree with that. He wanted to destroy jews, I am STRONGLY opposed to that. He wanted to build an economy where whites were working for the good of the white race,and allowingother races the same room to doso, i'd say that I do support that.

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