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OfflinePhluck
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American pilots charged.
    #881356 - 09/13/02 03:02 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

U.S. pilots charged in friendly fire bombing

By DARREN YOURK
Globe and Mail Update


The U.S. Air Force has laid criminal charges against two fighter pilots involved in a bombing that killed four Canadian soldiers in Afghanistan.

Major Harry Schmidt was charged with four counts of manslaughter and eight counts of assault. He also was charged with failing to exercise appropriate flight discipline and not complying with the U.S. military's rules for firing weapons in Afghanistan.

Major William Umbach, the flight commander, was charged with negligently failing to exercise appropriate flight command and control and to ensure compliance with the rules for firing on a target, the Pentagon said.

The charges were recommended by Air Force Brig.-Gen. Stephen T. Sargeant, who was co-director of a joint U.S.-Canadian investigation board that studied the circumstances of the April 17 incident.

These charges are only accusations," a Pentagon announcement said. "Both officers are presumed innocent."

In June, U.S. and Canadian inquiries released heavily censored reports on the accident, coming down hard on the actions of the two pilots, Major Harry Schmidt and Major William Umbach. The reports said that they rushed to action and failed to exercise the appropriate leadership.

On April 17, near Tarnak Farms, Afghanistan, close to Kandahar, soldiers of Alpha Company, 3rd Battalion, Princess Patricia's Canadian Light Infantry, were engaged in a nighttime training exercise involving live fire, when two U.S. F-16s flew over their position while returning from a mission.

The flight lead, Major Umbach, noticed what he called "fireworks" coming from the area where the Canadian infantry were training, and he interpreted that as surface-to-air fire. He asked for and received permission from the Airborne Warning and Control System aircraft, (AWACS), to determine the precise co-ordinates of the source.

His wingman, Major Schmidt, asked for permission to fire on the location, but was told to stand by. The AWACS then asked for additional information on the situation, while ordering the pilots to hold fire. Major Schmidt, after providing the information, declared that he was under attack and was "rolling in." He released a 250-kilogram laser-guided bomb.

Killed were Sergeant Marc L?ger, 29, of Lancaster, Ont.; Private Richard Green, 21, of Mill Cove, N.S.; Corporal Ainsworth Dyer, 25, of Montreal; and Private Nathan Smith, 27, of Tatamagouche, N.S.

With reports from The Globe and Mail's Daniel Leblanc



http://www.globeandmail.com/servlet/ArticleNews/front/RTGAM/20020913/wfire0913/Front/homeBN/breakingnews


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Re: American pilots charged. [Re: Phluck]
    #881445 - 09/13/02 03:43 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Way to go, catch those bad guys!

Sort of related--when I was a young fool I was in the Army, and at AIT (specialized training following boot camp) everybody would go and hang out by the base store and drink beer. 

There were a good four or five dozen of us on any given night, a bunch of dumb shits sitting around a grassy spot beside the store, blowing all our cash on beer.  I was 18, and so were most of us.  One day the company commander waltzed in, picked out the baby facest of us, and demanded to see his ID.  Of course, the dude was 18, and what a scandal that was to this company commander who loved his company down to the soldier.  The next day in formation we heard all about how terrible it was of this soldier to do that.  We all looked at each other and shook our heads.  Poor dude, got court marshalled or something.

That night it was business as usual at the watering hole.  It was the only time the CC ever paid a visit there during my 10-week stay.  And I should know, I was there almost every night... :shocked:

Figure: the army knows the average age of its soldiers.  It knows also the volume of alcohol being sold at any given store.  Of course, it also knows how much revenue that pulls in.  Damn scapegoatists. 


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Re: American pilots charged. [Re: Phluck]
    #881637 - 09/13/02 10:14 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Good to see, they were very negligent those two pilots and I think that this will bring some closure to those families who lost loved ones in that tradgedy.


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Re: American pilots charged. [Re: Phluck]
    #881778 - 09/13/02 11:30 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If found guilty, it will be interesting to see what the penalty is.


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Re: American pilots charged. [Re: vatoloco]
    #881797 - 09/13/02 11:39 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

"Major William Umbach, the flight commander, was charged with negligently failing to exercise appropriate flight command and control and to ensure compliance with the rules for firing on a target, the Pentagon said."



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Re: American pilots charged. [Re: Phluck]
    #882820 - 09/13/02 08:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

If these pilots get convected: I surely hope that they stop calling it FRIENDLY FIRE (my ass!)


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