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Unfolding Nature Shop: Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order

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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: Diploid]
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Diploid said:
That is the net sum of science.


well said.


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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: Diploid]
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I think you're looking at it too superficially. Science assumes that some observable, objective reality exists. Which is a matter of faith. That's where it comes in. Everything is always experienced subjectively, though there are many things that we experience in common.


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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: dblaney]
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dblaney said:
I think you're looking at it too superficially. Science assumes that some observable, objective reality exists. Which is a matter of faith. That's where it comes in. Everything is always experienced subjectively, though there are many things that we experience in common.


One step ahead of you:
Sclorch said:
Prove you're not a brian floating in a vat and I can prove that your own experience validates science.
Solipsism is a bitch... but if I were all by myself, I think I'd start believing in God too. If I didn't, I'd vanish in a puff of logic faster than Descartes thinking not.


Faith in your own experience is the only practical faith there is.


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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: Diploid]
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I don't see any faith there, only observation (which requires no faith) and experimental verification (which requires no faith).

There is faith involved in observation. There is an implied belief in the reliability of the senses.

This is no less an act of faith than assuming that logical axioms hold true.

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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: shroomydan]
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Solipsism is a bitch.


amen. its also a great conversation stopper... hah


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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: shroomydan]
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I'd say, from my Absurdo-Nihilist view, scientists have faith that Science is currently our best method for understanding the universe. But, I don't think this is very much like "any other faith." The leap of faith taken to hold this view seems tiny. Science is a system which is extremely functional and most importantly, testable. So, while there is a possibility that science is a fraud, merely the invention of Satan, or a shitload of coincediences, this possibility is TOO DAMN SMALL to take seriously.

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Re: What's the Scientific Proof for Science? [Re: MushmanTheManic]
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If there was any sort of proof for science itself, I would wager that it would be that of technology, any application of science. The testing of the hypothesis will determine if the hypothesis is a valid observation. That which pertains to science can be proven through science.

As far as absolute validity of science itself goes, it isn't an apt question. Its like asking if the push up is absolutely valid. :wtf:

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