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InvisibleSwami
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Swami vs. the Probation Officer
    #4217132 - 05/25/05 03:27 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Check out the this thread Cannabis and Racquetball: The Taboo Subject where Swami (as Swami) tangles with a probation officer among others in the the never-ending war for freedom.

Note to Mods, I consider this S&P as it pertains to ethics and morals.


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InvisibleShroomismM
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4217146 - 05/25/05 03:31 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

yeah! fight the power! :smile:


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Shroomism]
    #4217173 - 05/25/05 03:42 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Right on!


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InvisibleDiploidM
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
    #4217185 - 05/25/05 03:46 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

it is illegal and it's not right to promote it here.

I love it when a prude decides something is bad for the sole reason that it's illegal. :sad:

[Diploid sighs]


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
    #4217765 - 05/25/05 10:43 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Game point. I'd like to see you do to that guy on the court what you did to him in there.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4217777 - 05/25/05 10:49 AM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Swami, I think you should use some high dose LSD next time you play and really show those geeks some shots. Or a puff of salvia between points. Geesh! What a bunch of pruds. :stoned:


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Icelander]
    #4218014 - 05/25/05 12:13 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you sounded like you needed some cheese with that whine...if ur fuckin back hurts to play then face that facts.. that you aren't 23yrs old anymore, and get out before you fade out....

BUT on the other hand..if smokin' or drinkin' is the key to succes and keeps you in the game... fuck it! all the best to ya' and it's nice to know we got "one of our own" holdin' it down in the raquetball forums..

"if you ain't causin' no harm then you're alright with me..-Ben Harper


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: uriahchase]
    #4218031 - 05/25/05 12:18 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

oh yah and anothe thing.....my P.O was a fuckin retard slut whore!!! what a cunt! she always thought i was high!!!
oh..a little off topic, but that bitch had it comin'!


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Icelander]
    #4218089 - 05/25/05 12:35 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Wow what a post!. Good for you Swami, very eloquent. I am humbled by your reasoning. The unfortunate thing is that none of your verbal opponents will get it. I, like you am a aging athlete. Not a racquet baller (years ago-yes)but I play tennis. Some of the old aches and pains never go away and there are times where smoking herb is the only relief I can get. Our country is full of people who want to tell you how to live your life and these are the same people who scream the loudest when they percieve a wrong has been done to them and the same people who use the same old song and dance about knowing what is best. You are too stoned out of your gourd to make a rational decision and we know what is best for you. They make me sick! Blah, go on line and see Georgie boy making kissy faces with a test tube baby on the front page of the Washington Post, and then read the articles about stem cell research. He makes me want to puke!


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
    #4218261 - 05/25/05 01:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Comments like those always make me laugh then cry.....


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
    #4218287 - 05/25/05 01:44 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

You've won the championship if that discussion was a rball game.
Anyway, i never saw any logic in prohibitionist statements. "Bad leads to illegal, illegal leads to bad" bullshit, fascist propaganda, fuck'em !

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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: uriahchase]
    #4218407 - 05/25/05 02:41 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

you sounded like you needed some cheese with that whine...if ur fuckin back hurts to play then face that facts.. that you aren't 23yrs old anymore, and get out before you fade out....

That place is not the Shroomery. I had to preface it with the Medical angle to get a discussion going. If I said, "Hey, I like to get buzzed and watch The Simpsons," the thread would have been closed.  :tongue2:


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4218527 - 05/25/05 03:14 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Way to go Swami. It certainly didn't seem to take much effort or thought to shoot down their lies and bullshit. Logic and factual information stand above all.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: SuperD]
    #4218539 - 05/25/05 03:19 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Factual information yes, Logic no.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: vampirism]
    #4219242 - 05/25/05 06:39 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

How do you separate factual information from logic? Is not factual information determined from human logic, and human logic expanded by the acquisition of factual information?

Good arguments Swami, I often try to inform people that there are other views, but those types of debates get extremely boring and tedious to me. Arguing with a probation officer and prohibitionists who just spout the same wrong evidence and repeat the same tired arguments get old quickly. They probably think the same of us.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4219661 - 05/25/05 08:29 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Good point about the link between the social culture around weed and it acting as a gateway drug. If it weren't illegal in the first place, young stoners wouldn't encounter meth/heroin/crack pushers as easily.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
    #4219670 - 05/25/05 08:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Good going Swami! :thumbup:


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4219924 - 05/25/05 09:32 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

If I said, "Hey, I like to get buzzed and watch The Simpsons," the thread would have been closed.

Are they as hard-nosed about OT Banana Bread threads too?  :tongue:


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
    #4220228 - 05/25/05 11:09 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Your point was well made in that thread, but it was not really a fair fight. Some of these people have never really thought out their views on drug issues (or many other issues as well) apparently. Their moral devlopment stopped at the preschooler stage where they are taught to see only good and bad, so you got an easy kill.


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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
    #4220455 - 05/25/05 11:56 PM (16 years, 4 months ago)

Why wasn't the simple argument it's my body and no one has any greater right to it than me used? Good and bad, right or wrong don't matter at all.


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