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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815584 - 08/15/03 01:40 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Oh right... so you're telling me that "sacred" titles such as Swami should be reserved for elitist bastards who take years to achieve such positions. Sounds like a CEO to me...


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815587 - 08/15/03 01:41 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I answered every one of those questions, by simply stating...
Sorry, but you answered none of my questions.

a Swami is Renounced from Worldly objects (including the www.shroomery.org message boards) and from being egotistical
Like Sri Chinmoy, Swami Muktananda and Swami Kriyananda are NOT egotistical? You are funnier than me.

do you wear the color of ocre? (please answer my questions)
What one wears has nothing to do with one's heart.

when I was talking about how important it is when you receive a dream from a saint... you replied with
"what about when you dream about a porn star"

I know what I said. So are you saying (geez this is like pulling teeth) that only people whom you deem as holy have any significance in your dreams? (I honestly try to do this in shorthand, but sometimes I must spell everything out.)

swami, please go to off topic discussion if your not gonna be positive
It is not my fault that you are unable to unearth the wisdom beneath my humor. I think I'll stay in spite of your admonishment.

this forum... I didnt want to argue with you, but rather ask why your pretending to hold knowledge when you arent familar with what a Senyassin is.
You have no idea what I am and am not familiar with.

macharia is a sacred thing to me... I'm not looking for an argument, but rather asking for your respect.
Is respect asked for earned?


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815600 - 08/15/03 01:45 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks for derailing my thread about self-healing. Perhaps you could stay on track and contribute something positive from your years of study.


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #1815609 - 08/15/03 01:50 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

monks and preists make sincere efforts to uplift humanity and themselfs with a life long commitment


I appologize for derailing your topic... we should have exchanged more in pm's or a different thread

I will not interefere anymore

<3 let us heal ourselfs from the problems our minds create


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1815633 - 08/15/03 01:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I thought Swami lived in Vegas... okay, who was that dude that introduced me to all those "spiritual dancing nuns"?


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #1815981 - 08/15/03 04:52 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Does allergy count? I've been allergic to cats all my life, and I would love to find a way to make it go away.


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1816000 - 08/15/03 04:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

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there's nothing wrong with having that name... but you are NOT a Swami



And you are not Ras Tafari, prince of Ethiopia, son of Ras Makonnen.
The score is now 1 - 1.

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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1816012 - 08/15/03 05:04 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

they say Ras Tafari would draw pictures of birds and they would fly off the pages


all is one


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #1816680 - 08/15/03 01:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

"...stay on track and contribute..."
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Concerning Placebos...  They can aid the mind with self healing...  However...


Swami stated:


"Possible examples:

1. Poor eyesight

2. Scar that won't heal

3. A.I.D.s

4. You are turning into a fly... "


In that respect...  I do believe he got it right with...  :  "*cue Mission Impossible Theme*" ....


[Note: the fly thing is an obvious joke..]
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Rhizoid: "Does allergy count? I've been allergic to cats all my life, and I would love to find a way to make it go away."
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I used to be alergic to cats.  So much in fact, that the doctors kept trying to get my parents to get rid of them.

We kept them, against the Docs' orders..  They were an important part of the family. 

It took more than three months, but I have built an immunity to that allergy over an extended period.
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Shroomism is on the right track with the concept of : "positive thinking"...
But alas, that isn't enough in some cases.  But it WILL help with accepting "the cards you've been dealt".


And might I add, I agree with shroomism concerning: "Neutrality is key".
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Rastafari, you say: "swami, I find your disrespectful, negative comments very offensive considering..."


But, my friend, this is what Swami stated: "Could not another get it directly from the source also ?"


The answer to that, dear friend, is: "YES."


:eyemouth:

 


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rhizoid]
    #1816703 - 08/15/03 01:18 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I would not count allergies nor depression, but of course, you are free to self-heal in any way that you want. I do not belittle those conditions, but they seem to be in a gray area between hardware and software (mind & body) and are affected by many environmental and dietary factors as well.

I would personally like to see things healed that seem more solid on the physical plane as the source of healing is less debatable if you went from say having 20/200 vision for 15 years to perfect eyesight, than if you went from sneezing to not sneezing or from feeling malaise to feeling energized. Those conditions come and go and are somewhat vague and subjective.


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #1816728 - 08/15/03 01:27 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Okay... Looks like i wont be taking the challenge. lol.


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Zero7a1]
    #1816758 - 08/15/03 01:41 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Why not? Are you happy in your depression? Heal-away, my brother!


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Swami]
    #1816852 - 08/15/03 02:13 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Depression is just negative, paralyzing thoughts... you could effectively cure yourself by only thinking positive, becoming thoughts..

Whether or not "it isn't that easy", or that the positive thoughts come off as empty and don't help, just keep repeating them, having them apply to the problem at hand, self-image, worthiness, etc..

Something about some depression being chemical, it is probably because the negative thoughts effect what you do throughtout your day, exercise, what you eat... possibly your negative state of mind produces the chemicals.. I don't know, but it can still be overcome, as long as you seriously do not want to stay within the depression and will do what it takes to get out of it.. if you don't want to do what it takes, then you quite like the state of mind you are in. All it takes is positive thoughts, continously, no matter how much the negative thoughts cut them down... keep repeating them. I know; I've been there.. it is all in our head.
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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Deiymiyan]
    #1816993 - 08/15/03 02:54 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Deiymiyan said:
Rastafari, you say: "swami, I find your disrespectful, negative comments very offensive considering..."


But, my friend, this is what Swami stated: "Could not another get it directly from the source also ?"


The answer to that, dear friend, is: "YES."


:eyemouth:

   




To get renunciation, and purify your mind, anyone who seeks that can get it...

But we are talking about a Specific liniage of Monks, named Swami's, Bramacharians, Senyassis, and Renunciates who perform serious Tapas (Austarities)

I appologize that people cannot see the intentions in some of the words I havent put together so well...but I have been in the presence of alot of Swami's and hence I hope some would understan why it might be offensive to my culture to say anyone who chooses to be a Swami can do so immedietely... You can do so, but it takes sinciere effort and dedication.

To sit in your house on a computer and claim you are a Fransiscan Monk, without ever going to Church, wearing a Robe, Roserie, and being initated into the system... how can you claim such?

I appologize for all the misunderstandings, because alot of people here really have good intentions and I think sometimes its difficult for us to understand each others intent, when were focusing on a certain set of words...

We all have a Swami in us that needs to be cultivated... But one cannot baptize himself into a certain church he has never visited

He can make a sinciere effort to go there and become though

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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1817139 - 08/15/03 03:42 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Ah... rigidity! Sweet rigidity, ever-unchanging are your ways. What purity and truth there is in literalism! Give me pomp... give me circumstance... give me a hardline to the unspeakable... give me the strength to squash the questioning opposition... give me certainty in these uncertain times... give me STABILITY!!


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Sclorch]
    #1817166 - 08/15/03 03:50 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

stability is a good thing


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Rastafari]
    #1817197 - 08/15/03 04:07 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I didn't think you would notice the sarcasm...


Stability is a relative term... a lofty goal just beyond everyone's grasp. It's similar to the materialist's struggle. Instead of more stuff, a bigger house, a faster car, etc.... it's more stable family life, more stable career, more stable friendships....


But hey, don't listen to me... I'm just an asshole "skeptic"....


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Sclorch]
    #1817437 - 08/15/03 05:21 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

do you remember my Sig?

"What Is stability?"

Im glad to see this brought up. i have closure now >_< . :smile:


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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Sclorch]
    #1817442 - 08/15/03 05:22 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Ok well im as blind as bat so I will attempt to heal mine vision within the three month period.

This thread will self destruct in 5 seconds....

P.S any help from you guys would be gladly appreciated  :smile:

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Re: Swami Self-Healing Challenge [Re: Sclorch]
    #1817461 - 08/15/03 05:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Quote:

Sclorch said:
But hey, don't listen to me... I'm just an asshole "skeptic"....




dont think of yourself like that, its not a positive thing to do

if you are under the impression that I view you that way, you misunderstood me completely

much love

and i think that stability arises when you have something to be stable about... a perspective on reality is necessary to gain solidarity and even mindedness


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