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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: 2Experimental]
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"man the way some people think makes me sick.. "

haha sorry if my view "makes" you sick. here's a suggestion...rearrange that sentence to read "I make myself sick when I read some people thoughts."


"spirtuality has to deal with a deep connection with life, and many people have many types of connections. WHAT IS THERE doesn't really matter, but rather how you feel about what's there is where the spirituality comes in. The beauty in all of it is that anything COULD have this spritual connection. "

sprituality is an approach, not certain events, or even things. trying to dumb down spirituality to that level as i said before destroys it's own authenticity.

again this is only my viewpoint and should only be taken as such. if you read what I posted before you can see clearly that my viewpoint of spirituality has to deal with bettering yourself...and I'm sorry if that makes you sick.

I'll quote jaque here "Are catalysts to spiritual states of mind not spiritual in themselves? I think that's a question that is completely subjective as well.. but it is food for thought."

so what about this subjective view of right and wrong that you have.

I was abused serverly as a kid, and in no way I thought it was right. but "it depends on how the experience is used" and i used to it better myself. it was wrong, but it was spiritual for me non of the less. are you going to sit here and tell me it wasn't and then get sick about it?


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Annnnnnd I had a light saber and my friend was there and I said "you look like an indian" and he said "you look like satan" and he found a stick and a rock and he named the rock ooga booga and he named the stick Stick and we both thought that was pretty funny. We got eaten alive by mosquitos but didn't notice til the next day. I stepped on some glass while wading in the swamp and cut my foot open, didn't bother me til the next day either....yeah it was a good time, ended the night by buying some liquor for minors and drinking nips and going to he diner and eating chicken fingers, and then I went home and went to bed.

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Swami]
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jjust what should i write down... lol.


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What?

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Zero7a1]
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Confession: I caught myself starting to exaggerate a story to get a more emotional response from the listener, but I stopped just in time. Maybe there is hope for me...


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The proof is in the pudding.

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Swami]
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oh... What does that have to do with anything? Wouldnt it be better to point out down right lies... Which i dont do.

Are you saying that i should admit everytime i try to make something more emotionally appealing? Or would you consider that a falsehood because of it trying to legimately play with words in order to achieve a personal goal?

Is your end to simply just point this out... so that we become aware... truthful to ourself about the situations we choose to partake in... with other people?


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What?

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Ped]
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Ped said:
Unfortunately, it is also true that prayer, meditation, or psychedelic drugs are also easily adopted as a means of further bolstering ones own proud identity, as a kind of self-congratulating practice which aids us in ignoring our faults even moreso than before.



This is a good point Ped and I agree. But I also think that a strong case can be made for the possibility that, if used correctly, these things can not be a means for bolstering one's pride. If used correctly, these things have something to show us that gives pride considerable pause.

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Edited by bufo (06/11/04 08:01 PM)

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Swami]
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what about combing your hair before you go out, or shaving day after day? or cleaning up the house before company comes over? are these considered lies or falsehoods?


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if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

Edited by CleverName (06/10/04 02:14 PM)

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Swami]
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Swami said:
Spirituality is NOT about aliens, drugs, pretty colors & patterns, praying nor meditation. It is about being as authentic a human being as you can be.


Sources?


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"It is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong."--Voltaire

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: ]
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>> But I also think that a strong case can be made for the possibility that, if used correctly, these things can not be a means for bolstering one's pride. If used correctly, these things have something to show us that gives pride considerable pause.

Absolutely.


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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Ped]
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Pride is not always a bad thing. One can rightly take pride in one's good work, for example.

Soul is the pride of bone...

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Edited by bufo (06/11/04 08:02 PM)

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: ]
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There is nothing wrong with a bit of pride in one's strengths if one also acknowledges one's weaknesses equally.

As to the challenge itself.. I content that it's perfectly possible to brag, or exaggerate, without lying.
However I will concede the point that such things are very close, and will keep you stuck in your ego.. at least so long as we agree your ego is that which you have constructed to be "you", the self-classification we all do.

Deception with truth is much more powerful than deception with lies. Any question asked has many possible answers, the trick is to simply find an acceptable answer, a true answer, that will satisfy the questioner without divulging the truth they were trying to uncover. If done right and well enough, they won't even consider that something may have been hidden from them.

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: Swami]
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so, how is everyone faring with truthfulness? i find that its the small things that are the hardest to be truthful about.


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if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

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Re: Swami Truth Challenge [Re: ]
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Divine pride is that which enables us to see the good in ourselves and make effort for extending good deeds. Deluded pride is that which exaggerates our good qualities and views them along side the downfalls of others.


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