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 Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office  [Re: newuser1492]
#4220498 - 05/26/05 07:08 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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It's my body and I'll fry if I want to, fry if I want to.
You would fry too if it happened to you... 
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usefulidiot
It's notfascist, it's...Neoconservative!
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4220584 - 05/26/05 07:24 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Your point was well made in that thread, but it was not really a fair fight. Some of these people have never really thought out their views on drug issues (or many other issues as well) apparently. Their moral devlopment stopped at the preschooler stage where they are taught to see only good and bad, so you got an easy kill.
Certainly now alteast some of them will have probably found themselves reconsidering their positions on the subject.. 
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Diploid
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 Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: newuser1492]
#4220610 - 05/26/05 07:29 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Good and bad, right or wrong don't matter at all.
Those people are well-meaning, but they're blind followers of the government's party line. They lack critical thinking skills and so accept at face value the anti-drug propaganda that drugs harm society without thinking about it; nevermind the harm the drug war causes.
This brainwashing has been going on for generations now. It's no wonder...
[dip looks around for the bong]
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Republican Values:
1) You can't get married to your spouse who is the same sex as you.
2) You can't have an abortion no matter how much you don't want a child.
3) You can't have a certain plant in your possession or you'll get locked up with a rapist and a murderer.
4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.
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vampirism
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Swami]
#4220670 - 05/26/05 07:38 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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looks like it didn't go so well.
No one admitted they were wrong, they just used a bunch of ad hominems.
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: vampirism]
#4220677 - 05/26/05 07:39 AM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Isn't that how it always goes? Even on these forums that ends up being the result in the majority of threads.
Ad hominems are the key to life.
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4221417 - 05/26/05 12:57 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Huehuecoyotl said:
Your point was well made in that thread, but it was not really a fair fight. Some of these people have never really thought out their views on drug issues (or many other issues as well) apparently. Their moral devlopment stopped at the preschooler stage where they are taught to see only good and bad, so you got an easy kill.
Those are the best people to challenge.
Simply BECAUSE they've never given it a thought beyond "Well Gee, It's Illegal So It's Bad."
Plant the doubt, give the question. Let 'em figure it out themself. Sure, they'll stick to their old guns for a while, but eventually you'll actually trick them into LOOKING at the issue rather than giving their same-old-unthought reactionary response, and they'll wind up seeing things clearly.
Or not.
Often it seems, not. But.. others who may overhear but not be fanatical enough to comment one way or another? They'll think. Or perhaps those that seem the most opposed to changing their view are simply too afraid to admit they're wrong -- but later, when everything's safe and no one's around, they'll let their guard down (aahhh the ego gets in the way of progress yet again).
... awesome and now the sun's up. Another night I couldn't fall asleep because I'm looking for work, will be subjected to a drug test, and due to a lack of smokage have been unable to fall asleep.
Insomnia, that's one of the medical reasons to smoke, right? Ehh how's that fair with tests from employers? Got a few friends moving or recently moved out to the west coast -- maybe I should follow. Then again, 3,000 miles is a hell of a way to travel just to be able to get a good night's sleep.
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Mushmonkey]
#4221616 - 05/26/05 04:36 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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"I'm looking for work, will be subjected to a drug test"
My use of any drug is very seldom (like 2 times a year). I am not even a big user of OTC stuff like asprin or tylenol, BUT I will have no job that requires a drug test. I made up my mind a few years back that I will no longer be subjected to such a fundamental invasion of my privacy. I work for a public school system. I think it is hilarious that, at least in my state, teachers and school faculty are not subject to any drug tests. Many educated people think that this is invasion of privacy and will not stand for it...either that or the whole educational system is run by drug freaks (which I sometimes suspect). I used to deal with shit like that until I made up my mind that my personal freedom is my number one priority.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4222081 - 05/26/05 07:46 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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> I made up my mind a few years back that I will no longer be subjected to such a fundamental invasion of my privacy.
I have a line in my resume that says as much. Along the lines of "I believe drug testing to be an invasion of personal privacy and will not submit to any form of drug testing as a condition of employment."
I have only had one interviewer ever ask me about it. I was honest in my answer and still got the job.
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Swami
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Seuss]
#4222183 - 05/26/05 08:09 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is my latest Racquetball Thread. Any bets how long before I get kicked off? I just can't help stirring things up. It is genetically coded.
Last Night's RB Session:
Opponent: Damn bro, you are moving like the hunchback of Notre Dame tonight. What gives?
Swami: I am merely stopping the spread of terrorism.
Opponent: In the first game, you were stiffer than Boris Karloff in "The Mummy".
Swami: True, but I saved a marriage in Des Moines.
Opponent: Seemed liked you really pulled your back in that second game on that passing shot retrieval.
Swami: Yeah, but I stopped a kid in Orland from moving on to heroin.
Opponent: WTF?! Are you on drugs?
Swami: No, I am off them and now that student in Dallas can graduate college.
Opponent: I liked the old Swami better.
Swami: My mind is right now, boss. All my neurons are firing properly and I believe whatever the government tells me.
Opponent: Look, can you give me a game or not?
Swami: Is competition more important to you than reducing crime?
Opponent: Right now, I just want to get a good sweat.
Swami: *shakes head sadly* Some people just don't get it.
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
#4222345 - 05/26/05 08:59 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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soooo
fuckkkking
ammmusssed
thanks swami
not have i only learned a lot about racketball - well, all considering since it's something i could never would have gave a flying fuck on the moon about, but also about you, and a lot of people, and more about reality tunnels that are out there.
~
and that one word post in a sea of one hundred word posts is hysterical all given
is that Veritas our Veritas i can only assume? love how he saved snotty ol' racquetballdeb's *cried* with *injustice* and *broke* wound up shifting back to smoking more pot 
you win my a "righteously fascinating thread award" (the first one of these i ever doled out)
if the ol' guerilla ontology wasn't a past time of yours, you know you'd make one hell of an ethnographer? (of course you'd instantly nix that when that ayahuasquero handed you the cup, opting instead to give him a lil' science n' health lesson)
lol lol lol
lordy
mercy
you're a good man
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Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good.
If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.
It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.
I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Swami
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: CosmicJoke]
#4222370 - 05/26/05 09:04 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Nope, different Veritas (Latin for truth).
I was politely told to desist by the admin for not staying on topic. However, the Star Wars thread is somehow about racquetball.
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Icelander
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
#4222398 - 05/26/05 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Cosmic, "Our" Veritas is female. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Swami
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
#4222400 - 05/26/05 09:10 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Amend that: the thread was locked.
Go Freedom of Speech!
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Icelander
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
#4222407 - 05/26/05 09:11 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Time to put some LSD in those water bottles. 
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Swami
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Icelander]
#4222443 - 05/26/05 09:19 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can feel an RB site ban coming on... *fastens seatbelt*
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Icelander]
#4222472 - 05/26/05 09:29 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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while i did know the latin term for truth is veritas, i did not know not know that our Veritas is a woman - guess a SHe or a Hir are more appropriate ways of expressing 'em UFS's (unidentified flying shroomerites) perhaps i did read into the small handful of posts i've read that she has made as if she was man!
my humble apologies to Veritas and anyone elses gender i may have pre-identified  rats, love to hate when i find out i jumped the gun
blessings,
CJ
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Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good.
If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.
It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.
I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: CosmicJoke]
#4222481 - 05/26/05 09:32 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Don't feel bad, I did it to her too.. haha.. 
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Veritas
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No offense taken! It's difficult to spot my minor chromosomal difference when I'm using this font.
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CosmicJoke
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Officer [Re: Swami]
#4222549 - 05/26/05 09:45 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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boo hiss to their mod on the off-topic aspect
i guess when you play racketball with others you aren't soundly personally friends with you have to mimic a culturally accepted role to get your game.
that sucks, guy...
ya got any like minded gamers?
you'd be a real hero if you set up your own racquetball association for free thinkers and humanitarians, you know, have you ever contemplated setting up your own forum or club?
how well do your students of the game know you?
just some thoughts, maybe a lil' nudge of encouragement
be well
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Everything is better than it was the last time. I'm good.
If we could look into each others hearts, and understand the unique challenges each of us faces, I think we would treat each other much more gently, with more love, patience, tolerance, and care.
It takes a lot of courage to go out there and radiate your essence.
I know you scared, you should ask us if we scared too. If you was there, and we just knew you cared too.
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Re: Swami vs. the Probation Office [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#4222566 - 05/26/05 09:48 PM (17 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Huehuecoyotl said:
"I'm looking for work, will be subjected to a drug test"
My use of any drug is very seldom (like 2 times a year). I am not even a big user of OTC stuff like asprin or tylenol, BUT I will have no job that requires a drug test. I made up my mind a few years back that I will no longer be subjected to such a fundamental invasion of my privacy. I work for a public school system. I think it is hilarious that, at least in my state, teachers and school faculty are not subject to any drug tests. Many educated people think that this is invasion of privacy and will not stand for it...either that or the whole educational system is run by drug freaks (which I sometimes suspect). I used to deal with shit like that until I made up my mind that my personal freedom is my number one priority.
Yup.
Except I don't have that luxury.. I'm damn near out of money. There's not that many jobs around here that DON'T test.. now, sure, it's probably a 50/50 chance that whatever I wind up with will or will not test, but still -- I don't have the time to be picky.
'sides, once I'd be past the pre-hire test, unless I've got a workman's comp claim I won't be re-tested.. that's when the fun starts.
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i finally got around to making a sig
revel in its glory and quake in fear at its might
grar.
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