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InvisibleSwami
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God Bless America?
    #394930 - 09/15/01 08:03 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Does this mean God Damn any country that is not America? Or God Damn any country that is not an Amercian ally at this time?

Why not say God Bless Earth?



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Swami]
    #395038 - 09/15/01 12:49 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

I don't think that G-d will bless America. We are so consumed with the deaths of maybe 10,000 people in NYC while at the same time we murder over a million unborn innocent children every year. Over 40 million innocent childern since he seventies. We're worse than hitler and stalin.

Yesturday at the national prayer service president Bush bowed his head in apparent prayer to Allah when the muslim cleric prayed to 'the god of Muhammad'.

We are a godless people led by an unethical godless president with no scruples about worshipping false gods. How can America be blessed by the L-rd when we are so displeasing to him? I don't think that we can. It's too bad, we used to be a good country with the blessing and protection of G-d.

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #395139 - 09/15/01 03:36 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

that was about the most stupite argumentation I have ever read RailGun..
what do you mean by false god? bowing his head to Allah at that poinht was maybe one of the few intelligent things Bush ever did., if there is ONE-GOD it doesn't matter if you call him Allah or what ever...

that doesn't mean that the Is?lam that is lived is a good religion,crishtian people have made stupite things in the name of jesus,too..

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Prellgott]
    #395150 - 09/15/01 03:45 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

There are many false gods and idols. There is only one true G-d, the L-rd almight. The L-rd said to have no other gods before him. That is what Bush apparently did as I watched and was disgusted on national television.

Bael was a false god the Israelites worshiped and were chastised for by G-d and his prophet Elija. There are many false gods and idols in this world. May he L-rd have mercy on us all.

Take care, RG



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #395250 - 09/15/01 06:02 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

this is a little off subject but are you Jewish?..I only asked this because you use G-d instead of GOD. I have a jewish friend that does the same thing....why is this?

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #395369 - 09/15/01 08:45 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Jewish race, christian faith. I was taught to write that way...



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #395385 - 09/15/01 09:09 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Well RailGun, if you want to live in a Theocracy, take your American Taliban buddies Falwell and Robertson and head on over to Iraq or Afghanistan. Your religious bigotry will fit right in there.



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: zetek]
    #395396 - 09/15/01 09:20 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Are you smoking crack?



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #395399 - 09/15/01 09:21 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

oh...just wondering..Personally i've always been facinated with the Jewish religion, even though i'm Catholic.

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: zetek]
    #395402 - 09/15/01 09:24 PM (16 years, 13 days ago)

Why would you say such a thing? Wait till the tripp wears off before you post.

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
    #395538 - 09/16/01 01:32 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

well, america is built on religious tolerance, just like the 2nd ammendment you hold so dear. please try to show some tolerance for other religions, just because the guys who did this are muslim, doesn't mean all muslims are like that. religion doesnt belong in politics, so dont bring it in. as for abortion, lots of people think its right, lots of people dont.. i think abortion is right, and think they should let the "morning after pill" into america, to get rid of the ickiness of killing a fetus.



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: MrKurtz]
    #395549 - 09/16/01 01:47 AM (16 years, 13 days ago)

you should be more tolerant of the prolifers believes? and for the people who are against gays and those that choose thier religion.

Noone said that Muslims are the problem...just the Extremists..don't go searching for arguments when they're not there

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #395956 - 09/16/01 05:50 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

well, rail gun said that Dubya had no scrupels cause he bowed his head in prayer with the muslims, why shouldnt he? i didnt say anyone said muslims were the problem, but why shouldnt the president be able to make a prayer with muslims? i dont think im "searching for arguments where there are none", rail gun brought up the muslims, i was just responding.



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #396103 - 09/16/01 08:32 PM (16 years, 12 days ago)

some jews say g-d because if you wrote GOD, and then threw that paper away, it is like throwing your belief in god away. i dont write g-d because i believe the belief in god runs much deeper than just something written on a piece of paper.

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Sir Tokes-A-Lot]
    #396443 - 09/17/01 05:30 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

that is sybolism... People need sybols to leed them and keep them stroneger. But anyway I am god as God is.

afterall you are all good people sometimes
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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Swami]
    #396447 - 09/17/01 05:48 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

I swear some peolple.....

You have not done much research into religion at all have you?
If you have you would all realise that it stems from one Creator.
"IT" is a perfect duality. Of both positive and negative. IT has many names, some call it God, some call it YHVH. Allah, Jehovah, Yahweh, Agla, Adonai, E'heh'yeh.. the list goes on and on... yet everyone thinks they are right in the name they call deity. And they procede to kill each other over it. Now isn't that foolish?


If people really wanted peace they could have it... But it is more "profitable" to kill each other in terrorist acts, wars, racism and violence. "The whole world is lying in the Power of the Wicked one." .. a quote from the Christian Bible...


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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #396591 - 09/17/01 11:33 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

According to the Jewish faith and the first five books, you are not supposed to speak the name, hence G-D.
And yes, all monotheistic religions worship the same GOD. They do so at different points of the time line. What is the worst thing about religion, MORALITY. It is in the subjective terms of Morality that we see our differences. Why can't religion just be about spirituality, and the worship of a higher being or beings if that is what your into. Morality leads to hatred, hatred leads to destruction.
We are all at play in the fields of the lord. Religion was great when it was about worshiping something beyond humanity, but this obsession with morality has made religion the act of self worship. We are so preoccupied with how we live our lives, and ethics. These things are not constant, they change through time in different ways for different people. The only constant is the notion of something beyond us, this is the core of all religion. It is the only thing I worship. My worshiping does not force me to hate other people, but to embrace our differences.
Anyone who judges others based on their moral construct is full of hatred. You have no choice!!! This was the evolving beauty of the Free world, we tried to seperate morality from culture and law. We replaced it with individual freedom, and civil liberties. At it's core it is perfect, do what ever you want as long as it doesn't stop others from doing what they want. Of'course evolution has it's ups and downs, and sometimes morality works it's way into the framework of our laws. These terrorists are moralists, just like many of our religous leaders. They view all perspectives not in agreement with their own as unholy, capitalism is not unholy. Free trade is not unholy, what is unholy is the moralists within all governing forces that chose to dictate their own moral construct onto others. All negative things said about AMERICA can be said about all governments. It is not because we produce goods, or consume goods that we are hated, it is our inability to stay out of the moral constructs of other cultures. And their inability to stay out of ours.



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Re: God Bless America? [Re: ]
    #396600 - 09/17/01 11:50 AM (16 years, 11 days ago)

thanks..however i think you have this phrase a little backward "What is the worst thing about religion, MORALITY." i believe, at least in my mind, "The worst thing to happen to christianity is religion" or to group all faiths together "the worst thing to happen to theism is religion".

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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Innvertigo]
    #700849 - 06/25/02 04:07 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

YOur GOD is Dead and no one cares. If there is Hell I'll see you there rail gun and invertigo,


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Re: God Bless America? [Re: pimpadelic]
    #700924 - 06/25/02 04:37 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

and you are?


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