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 Ellis Dee
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 Re: God Bless America?  [Re: pimpadelic]
#704397 - 06/26/02 10:50 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I know the song you took that from.
But anyways. There is a hell and a heaven. When we die we'll all either go to heaven or to hell. God is not dead nor will he ever die. Look at nature and the animals in it. The fact that the earth and nature are here is testimony to the fact that G-d is still with us.
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"If the foundations be destroyed, what can the righteous do."-King Solomon
And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels,
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mrfreedom
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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#704659 - 06/27/02 05:47 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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I hate to point fingers but your argument is ludicrous in the extreme. To point at a physical object and state that because it exists there must be a creator/god/"the invisible man" us just not logical nor intelligent.
To point at a physical thing and then to assert that it neccesarily must have been created by god is circular reasoning at best. Who told you that this is so? What proof do you have that the "invisible man" exists, let alone has the power to create anything?
God is a just a "spell symbol", just like dog, or cat, or firefly. None of these symbols is magic but "god". In terms of being able to discuss a thing, one must necessarily be able to agree with what that thing is, before it can be discussed.
Certainly one can simply point at at dog and say "this is a dog" and, I would assume, that most people could easily agree that, yes, indeed, that is a dog. One cannot do this with god. God, goddess, "the invisible man" is quite different,
" haver you ever seen god? If so, where and when, how tall was she and what did she weigh? What was her skin color? Did she have a belly button and, if so, why? Did she have breasts? For what purpose? How about organs of reproduction and excretion?"
These are simple questions that no scholar in all of known time has been able to answer. The attempt to justify a childish belief by pointing to a rock and saying "see, god made that" is just not acceptable as an argument. One must have a set of basic premises when one engages in argument, unfortunatley one cannot use as a basic premise that which cannot be PROVEN to exist.
Please save me your argument of having me prove that god doesn't exist. You can't prove the negative of an unprovable premise. In other words, the argument that "you can't prove god doesn't exist" is circular. Of course I can't prove god doesn't exist, not until you give me some PROOF that god does exist, so that I may refute your arguments.
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pimpadelic
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Re: God Bless America? [Re: Ellis Dee]
#704842 - 06/27/02 07:15 AM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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In reply to:
There is a heaven and and a hell
How do you you know there is a heaven and a hell? I bet God told you.
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Ellis Dee
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Re: God Bless America? [Re: pimpadelic]
#706106 - 06/27/02 04:35 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Not in those words, but you're right, he did.
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Re: God Bless America? [Re: pimpadelic]
#706325 - 06/27/02 06:03 PM (21 years, 5 months ago) |
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Shut up. Right now. Please. If you're going to join an intelligent discussion, you must at least contribute something intelligent to say. Are you too fucking ignorant to quote any philosophers, so you quote rock stars who quote philosophers? Think for your fucking self.
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