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Invisibledblaney
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Tsunami's and 2012?
    #3556790 - 12/29/04 12:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Okay, well most of us know of the whole Mayan prophecy thing...i.e., Dec. 21, 2012 will be a momentous world changing occassion on one plane or another. And some of us have heard the suggested link of the WTC (9/11) disaster being linked to the fall of the Tower of Babyl. Now my question is...along the lines of this theory where much of human history is replayed in the few years before 2012; what could this earthquake and tsunami represent? I was originally thinking the biblical flood, but that would have happened before Babyl.

Any ideas?


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: dblaney]
    #3556824 - 12/29/04 12:16 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I believe the earthquake represents a shifiting of the tetonic plates. The Tsunami is problably a representation of the earthquakes effect on the earths exterior.


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Invisibledblaney
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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: MellowMood]
    #3556849 - 12/29/04 12:23 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Wow, now that's insightful. Lol, I'm sorry man, but that doesn't answer my question at all. I agree with your implication that the prophecy is weak, but on a scientific basis, there will be a major astronomical alignment right around that time period.

Either way, my question relates to the Mayan Prophecy, not what an earthquake is. :wink:


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: MellowMood]
    #3556852 - 12/29/04 12:24 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

When things like this KEEP happening THEN would I be concerned


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: dblaney]
    #3557017 - 12/29/04 01:07 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

there will be a major astronomical alignment right around that time period.

There will not be any such thing.

In 2012, there will be a solar conjunction with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic plane. This is not an alignment.

This has happened 200,000 times since the Earth formed. This is just one more time. It is no more special than a full moon, though less frequent. :syringe:


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3557101 - 12/29/04 01:37 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hm, well perhaps my sources are just shitty. I've read all sorts of things varying from a shift in the Earth's magnetic fields to passage through a 'photon belt'. While I'm highly skeptical that anything world shattering will happen, or for that matter, that anything tangible will happen, I wouldn't be too surprised if something more subtle happened. I mean even just a comet or something would be nice :smile:


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Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.

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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: dblaney]
    #3557130 - 12/29/04 01:47 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Hm, well perhaps my sources are just shitty.

Yep.

I wouldn't be too surprised if something more subtle happened.

On what do you base this belief?


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3557148 - 12/29/04 01:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Diploid said:
there will be a major astronomical alignment right around that time period.

There will not be any such thing.

In 2012, there will be a solar conjunction with the intersection of the ecliptic and the galactic plane. This is not an alignment.

This has happened 200,000 times since the Earth formed. This is just one more time. It is no more special than a full moon, though less frequent. :syringe:


Yeah, how much more less frequent? you make it sound like it happens more than every few thousand years when it's an extremely rare event...alignment, conjunction, all of the above, wywtci.
There's quite a few sources online providing credibility to a corelation of astronomical and terrestrial events.


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #3557164 - 12/29/04 02:03 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah, how much more less frequent? you make it sound like it happens more than every few thousand years

It happens once every 26,000 years. That means it's happened 200,000 times since the Earth began orbiting the sun. (5,000,000,000 / 26,000)

wywtci.

I don't know what that is??

There's quite a few sources online providing credibility to a corelation of astronomical and terrestrial events.

/sigh

In order for a source to have credibility, it must be published in a peer-reviewed astronomical journal or similar publication, not a New Age mumbo-jumbo web site.

Please provide a link to one single peer reviewed article supporting your claim.


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3557368 - 12/29/04 02:54 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

wywtci is whatever you want to call it, in reference to splitting hairs

I'm glad you admitted just how rare an occurance this 'event' actually is. Perhaps only the 2nd mankind has witnessed but I'm sure that can be argued.

Whatever link I post I'm sure will be argued as not a peer of yours so here's a good starting point for you to begin learning. good luck!

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=2012+ma...;fl=0&x=wrt


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #3557479 - 12/29/04 03:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

I'm glad you admitted just how rare an occurance this 'event' actually is.

Admitted? You make it sound like I have something to hide. It's proponents of mumbo-jumbo crap who can't back up their claims that have something to hide.

Perhaps only the 2nd mankind has witnessed

Alright, let's pick apart your nonsense. The rise of homo sapiens occurred about 150,000 years ago. So, the Earth has precessed and the topic conjunction has occurred, at least 5 times (150,000 / 26,000) since the rise of man, not 2 times. What makes this one so special?

You said:

Quote:

There's quite a few sources online providing credibility to a corelation of astronomical and terrestrial events.




But when I asked you to back up the BS you give me this:

Quote:

Whatever link I post I'm sure will be argued as not a peer of yours




You don't know what a peer-reviewed journal is. Where did you go to school?

This is not about my peers; it's about astronomers' peers. This is a reasonable request given that your claims are in the field of Astronomy, no?

Yet all you can muster is a link to a Yahoo search and nothing else. :thumbdown:

How about a link to an astronomy or cosmology journal instead?


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4) We need a smaller, less-intrusive government.


Edited by Diploid (12/29/04 04:09 PM)


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3557637 - 12/29/04 04:29 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

"This is just one more time. It is no more special than a full moon, though less frequent.  :syringe: "

well, some would argue that when something is less frequent or common, it is by definition more special, hence the value of diamonds compared to sand, and halley's comet compared to defecation.

but i think we can all agree that this would be a good time to shoot up  :syringe:


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Moonshoe]
    #3557768 - 12/29/04 05:05 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

well, some would argue that when something is less frequent or common, it is by definition more special

Sure, but it's certainly not special enough to warrant all the hysteria or the presumption that the end of the world is upon us given that it's already happened 5 times since humans arrived and 200,000 times since the Earth began its orbit.

but i think we can all agree that this would be a good time to shoot up

You're nuts.. Heheh...  :tongue: :syringe:


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3558044 - 12/29/04 06:17 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

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You don't know what a peer-reviewed journal is. Where did you go to school?





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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Diploid]
    #3558061 - 12/29/04 06:27 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Something to hide? You're the one that stays in lurk mode and at least I posted a link to something besides my own post like you did in the other thread about this same event and I got you to count just exactly how few times this event is, right? 5 times since the dawn of mankind. Pretty rare occurance and pretty bold of you to remark it's no more special than a full moon.

Oh, I just noticed you'd begun backpedalling from your claim its no more special than a full moon but I'd like to see a link on all the hysteria you mentioned.

And don't worry about where I went to school. *deleted...was response to personal attack. thanks for pointing that out, Trendal. I was slipping down to his level.


Edited by wandrnshaman (12/29/04 06:29 PM)


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: wandrnshaman]
    #3558404 - 12/29/04 07:55 PM (12 years, 1 month ago)

what happend to the question? ahoy, you rogue pirates! from what i hear, the photon belt was a hoax from a grad student. it looked interesting for quite a hile, but who knows...lol. its non detectable. read up on it. you may get a laugh. as far as 2012 goes, its the end of the mayo calander. endings scare people. but i'll dose some shrooms 2 hours before midnight on the 11th just for fun. so i could say what i was doing at the time. lol.

2012 also happens to coincide with mckennas novelty/habbit time wave zero deal. keep reading and take everything with a grain...no... double handfuls of salt.


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: dblaney]
    #3559964 - 12/30/04 02:04 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

Earth Changes


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Shroomism]
    #3560167 - 12/30/04 03:07 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

It's a shame these threads get destroyed.
I was also wondering if it was in any way related to a theory 2012.
But I guess for me it's just because I dislike the regular money based, warfare and greed way of living.

WHAT'S YOUR SOURCE?! WHAT'S YOUR BASES?

I would suggest to ask a question without a referal, to prevent these types of questions to destroy the actual question.


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Fliquid]
    #3560428 - 12/30/04 06:39 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

art bell knows the true answer to this question. give art a call...


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Re: Tsunami's and 2012? [Re: Fliquid]
    #3560836 - 12/30/04 11:58 AM (12 years, 1 month ago)

These threads always get destroyed.. that's why you have to post in cryptic writing. Forgetting all that, the weather patterns indicate something is not normal on planet Earth. I expect it to get much worse (for us) before it gets better.


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