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InvisibleUlysees
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531349 - 01/25/02 07:21 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

>LOVE EVERYTHINHG(sp)
except poor Swami?

You're a mean one, mister Grinch...


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OfflineKeepAskingTime
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: DEnoG]
    #531363 - 01/25/02 07:41 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)



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OfflineMentalHygene
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531364 - 01/25/02 07:42 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

swami-
I know that I said that I would not respond, however I just wanted to appologize for my misspelling of the word EVERYTHING. Have a wonderfull evening!


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: MentalHygene]
    #531368 - 01/25/02 07:48 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

*in a whiney voice* but you promised...


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Offlinegribochek
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531469 - 01/25/02 10:13 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Picking easy targets, are we now? Gribochek is ROFL none the less...

On a sadder note, I must say that the drive for honest exploration is once again outweighted by the desire for sensationalism... Everyone so busy predicting something they don't have a slightest idea about with a single miracle-blind zombie in opposition. Hey, I think I just coined a word!

Miracle-blind(n):
Incapable or unwilling to acknowledge the wonderful and mysterious nature of being.

Cheers

Grib.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: gribochek]
    #531506 - 01/25/02 10:54 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Picking easy targets, are we now?
Back up a few posts Gribolater and it is obvious who targeted who, but if anyone comes to play, well...

Gribochek is ROFL none the less...
See? I do serve a purpose. Heh, Heh.

...with a single miracle-blind zombie in opposition.
Main Entry: zom?bie
Variant(s): also zom?bi /'z?m-bE/
Function: noun
Etymology: Louisiana Creole or Haitian Creole z?bi, of Bantu origin; akin to Kimbundu nz?mbe ghost
Date: circa 1871
1 usually zombi a : the supernatural power that according to voodoo belief may enter into and reanimate a dead body b : a will-less and speechless human in the West Indies capable only of automatic movement who is held to have died and been supernaturally reanimated

I don't think that anyone will agree with you that I am speechless.

Miracle-blind(n):
Incapable or unwilling to acknowledge the wonderful and mysterious nature of being.

Main Entry: mir?a?cle
Pronunciation: 'mir-i-k&l
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Old French, from Late Latin miraculum, from Latin, a wonder, marvel, from mirari to wonder at
Date: 12th century
1 : an extraordinary event manifesting divine intervention in human affairs

As an outdoor photographer, avid hiker, and perpetual student, I firmly believe in the wonder and mystery of life. What I don't believe in are special events, where the normal laws of the universe are temporarily suspended.

This is not addresed at you. Many have complained of my style of "picking apart" a post. This is standard debating protocol and is known as a point-by-point rebuttal.


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InvisibleSwami
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: KeepAskingTime]
    #531551 - 01/25/02 11:42 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.bluehoney.org/MayaNotes.htm
Our computer scientists from the '70s and '80s, who are unarguably more technologically developed than the Mayans, didn't even see the millenial bug coming some 20 or 30 years in the future. Yet some interpreters give great significance to the Mayan calendar which they didn't update figuring they had 500 years to do it in. BTW the calendar doesn't end in 2012, but starts over. It is a new cycle of accounting, not a new cycle of history.

http://www.deoxy.org/terencemckenna-vs-theblackhole.htm
McKenna is one af my fave authors. However, as he has no public history of prediliction, there is no reason to put faith in his 2012 end-of-history scenario.

http://www.diagnosis2012.co.uk/2.htm
The, ah, Primary Landing was already supposed to have taken place, but didn't. So much for the veracity of "information" on that website.


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OfflineArCh_TemPlaR
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531574 - 01/26/02 12:08 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Hey, Swami, it's a dirty job but somebody's got to do it. :laugh: 



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InvisibleSwami
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: ArCh_TemPlaR]
    #531656 - 01/26/02 02:08 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Sum times I gets oh soz tired...


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OfflineKeepAskingTime
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531664 - 01/26/02 02:26 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

ummm......cool?
Holy shit! Swami didn't debunk this one!>> http://www.bluehoney.org/2012.htm! It must be true then! Praise Allah!

Thank you, you made me laugh and that is what really matters, and exists.


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Offlinegribochek
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Swami]
    #531813 - 01/26/02 09:07 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

it is obvious who targeted who

If a child picks a fight with you and you respond, who is to blame? Shame on you, shame on you.

See? I do serve a purpose. Heh, Heh.

No argument here, dude.

Main Entry: zom?bie

Now, this is a dirty trick that has nothing to do with argument or discussion. Both you and I know the current, popular meaning of the word. It indicates someone who is acting in automatic fashion, without really understanding or even knowing what he does. Appealing to a dictionary in this case is a way to avoid the argument rather then continue it, it is one of the zombie activities you engage in.

This is standard debating protocol and is known as a point-by-point rebuttal.

Yes, yes, the word games. How smart!

-- Grib


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Offlinemm.
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: gribochek]
    #531920 - 01/26/02 11:13 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

McKenna himself debunked his 2012 theroy. He admitted it had almost no basis in fact. If you read the invisible landscape you will see what extraodinary leaps of logic he makes. He was so excited to discover a calender pattern in the I-Ching, that it clouded his judgement and allowed him to make the assumption that it was an encoded form of a 'timewave'.


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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: mm.]
    #531930 - 01/26/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

FACT or FICTION:

The Universe is endless

Neither. Because we don't know. Just because something has no basis in fact does not make it fiction.


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Offlinemm.
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: ]
    #531943 - 01/26/02 11:34 AM (21 years, 7 months ago)

I agree with you. That does not mean you should ignore the facts though. Surely you should start with known facts, and then postulate possibilities from there. OK, the facts may be wrong, but if you have more convincing evidence that they are wrong, than evidence that they are right... then you can change them. The logical route is to act on the assumption they are right until indicated otherwise.


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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: MentalHygene]
    #533386 - 01/27/02 09:16 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Mental Hygiene, you post under this name with the words "always learning" under it. Swami like everyone else here and everywhere knows many things that you don't. why not try tolearn from him?


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OfflineTraveller
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Traveller]
    #533395 - 01/27/02 09:25 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

ok excuse me for not reading everything first. you know recently it's these super-serious believers vs skeptics battles that are the most fun.

I-Ching eh....


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OfflineMentalHygene
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Re: End-date: 2012 [Re: Traveller]
    #533449 - 01/27/02 10:26 PM (21 years, 7 months ago)

Because I am always learning, I am willing to admit that I do not always act correctly. It is extremley hard to be perfect, and therefore at times I slip up. I realize that SWAMI knows things that I do not. On the other hand I know things that swami does not. I was frustrated with his form of communication, and I let it get the best of me. Thank you for your post, as it made me think about my actions a great deal. A lesson has been learned, and there will be many more to come! I hope that future discussions will not be affected by past actions! thanks again.


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