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a_guy_named_ai
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7708037 - 12/02/07 07:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Also to which of the religions from South America are we talking about? From what I know there's a diversity of religions.
but "somewhere on wikipedia" doesn't count as a source.
It didn't say specifically form what I remember. I know it doesn't count as a source, I tried to find it before I posted but I couldn't find it and I thought someone would know what I'm talking about. It seems the 2012 page has been messed with, it said there's been vandalism also.
One thing I read though that I saw interesting :
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According to the Maya there will be a baktun ending in 2012, a significant event being the end of the 13th 400 year period, but not the end of the world.[9]
[edit] Inscriptions beyond 2012
Maya stela occasionally show dates beyond 2012. Most of these are in the form of "distance dates", where a Long Count date is given with a distance date to be added. For example, on Tablet of Inscriptions from Palenque were found the following Long Count date: 9.8.9.13.0 8 Ahau 13 Pop (24 March 603 Gregorian) with a distance date of 10.11.10.5.8. The resulting date is given as 1.0.0.0.0.8 5 Lamat 1 Mol,[10] or 21 October 4772 – almost 3,000 years into the future. The king Pacal of Palenque predicted that on this date the eightieth Calendar Round anniversary of his accession will be celebrated, suggesting he did not believe the world would end in 2012.[11]
[edit] Summary
Despite the publicity generated by the 2012 date, Susan Milbraath, curator of Latin American Art and Archaeology at the Florida Museum of Natural History, stated that "We [the archaeological community] have no record or knowledge that [the Maya] would think the world would come to an end" in 2012.[12]
"For the ancient Maya, it was a huge celebration to make it to the end of a whole cycle," says Sandra Noble, executive director of the Foundation for the Advancement of Mesoamerican Studies in Crystal River, Fla. To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."[13]
What do proponents have to say about this?
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7708050 - 12/02/07 07:16 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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clean out your lungs = hahaha , cant find a reason to laugh? inhale as deep as you can and HA, ha, ha ha ha ha ha
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: machination]
#7708058 - 12/02/07 07:17 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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What does that have anything to do with the subject?
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7708077 - 12/02/07 07:21 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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I've been noticing it seems some people are posting it seems to just increase their post count.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: MushroomTrip]
#7708080 - 12/02/07 07:22 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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[it has everything to do with the subject. your lungs our our lungs har har har
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: machination]
#7709668 - 12/03/07 05:14 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Seriously dude, please cut the BS.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7714064 - 12/04/07 06:02 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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> To render Dec. 21, 2012, as a doomsday or moment of cosmic shifting, she says, is "a complete fabrication and a chance for a lot of people to cash in."
That pretty much sums up my feelings on the subject. If the people that make up this stuff really believed what they were spouting, then they would be out making the most of their last four years, living a life of void of repercussions.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Seuss]
#7714159 - 12/04/07 07:21 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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The Mayans predicted that Ron Paul would be elected president in 2008. Four years later, when he wins again, and then, at the start of 2012, world peace ensues and everyone lives happily ever after.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: fireworks_god]
#7714222 - 12/04/07 07:54 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Middleman]
#7714301 - 12/04/07 08:24 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Your shirt is stylish.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Middleman]
#7714371 - 12/04/07 08:52 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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awwwww mannng WHY? you cut out the sh it
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: machination]
#7714396 - 12/04/07 09:00 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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>> Moderator: Seriously dude, please cut the BS > awwwww mannng WHY? you cut out the sh it
14-day forum ban.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: machination]
#7714404 - 12/04/07 09:03 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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[double post]
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Seuss]
#7714436 - 12/04/07 09:15 AM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Thanks Seuss.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Ego Death]
#7715220 - 12/04/07 12:33 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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maybe they just ran out of room on the stone?
Have you ever been reading a book but needed to stop, then rather than than just close it in the middle of a paragraph, you keep reading until a handy stopping point like the end of a chapter?
The Mayans stopped calculating their calender in 2012 because that's the equivalent in astronomical calculations to the handy stopping point in the book analogy. It's where the celestial mechanics number crunching all converges more or less and it's a perfect stopping point to put a bookmark. They did, after all, by this time have several hundred years worth of dates stockpiled.
Why do people have such a hard time accepting this? It's like the human psyche finds convoluted and implausible explanations somehow more satisfying than mundane ones.
What ever happened to Occam's Razor?
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: a_guy_named_ai]
#7715237 - 12/04/07 12:36 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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nasa also predicted that the sun would reverse it's poles in 2012
I highly doubt NASA said any such thing.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Diploid]
#7715353 - 12/04/07 01:09 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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It's not just a stopping point, a full revolution. It marks the beginning of another cycle. So I guess the Mayan calendar would start all over again after that point.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Diploid]
#7715373 - 12/04/07 01:14 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Diploid said: nasa also predicted that the sun would reverse it's poles in 2012
I highly doubt NASA said any such thing.
Actually they did, but the sun does that every 11 years. 2012 happens to be the next Solar Maximum.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: Silversoul]
#7715376 - 12/04/07 01:15 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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So on Decemeber 12, 2012, the world will end and then instantly restart and no one will notice.
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Re: Have the Mayans predicted anything besides the 2012 thing.... [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
#7715400 - 12/04/07 01:19 PM (16 years, 1 month ago) |
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Just like they never noticed before.
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