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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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sounds great, thanks :smile:

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Churpee Choozle said:
So last weekend I got to try these for the first time. Ten grams fresh, my standard dose for new species, blendered in fresh orange juice. Very fast come-up, very energetic and euphoric. That energy seemed to be lacking with subtrops and ingeli. Danced like a motherfucker. No nausea, no cold sweat (it was pretty warm outside so that might have been a factor).

Fell on the couch for a bit. A new track started playing and some faint patterns and tracers morphed into very elaborate CEVs. Netting and filigree, complicated geometric patterns, evolving, getting more complex... Then folding up, crumpling, getting torn. Different patterns bursted out of every tear in the surface. Pulsating like some sea anemone.

My mind drifted back to the music. Something unknown to me was playing. So, this is AI music, I thought. The basslines were flat and fast and sounded like hi-hits, the hi-hits were deep and rounded, things that shouldn't melt, melted. Nothing made sense. Soon, everything will be AI trash, I thought.

Listening attentively, I could hear / see robots on the summits of the soundwaves. They looked like depictions of Coronavirus. The more I focused on them, the more obvious they became. Nanobots riding soundwaves. And then they bounced off and floated through the air. The robots came out of the music and drifted into my head, where they made contact with my brain. As soon as they landed, they threw up mists or cloaks of very fine rainbow material.

But I could feel what they were doing. The bastards ate my braincells. Little needles stinging into my cortex.

That was the moment I realized I was tripping pretty dang hard. Especially for ten grams fresh. Started dancing again.

The point I'm working towards is: I'm going to grow a lot more of these. Really happy with them. Once again thanks Odissey ans Kirkeng. It's been a while since I had my ass kicked by something at such a low dose. Awesome species.


I had a recent trip where one ai track was on loop in my head (only one I've really ever listened to) .. felt like a hack attempt.  I think people should be wary

My first & last Zapo attempt was extremely odd.  Color inversions like green tint overlay, medium-strength muscle paralysis/weakness and very little of classic trip sensations/visuals.  Anyone else had such an experience ??


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Link to my journal thread

https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29701994

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Snazz]
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I have 3 PF Tek jars of Zaps fully colonized and plan to top fruit them. I've got a 60/40 coir/cactus soil mix currently Pasteurizing for the casing.  The plan is to open the jars, scrap off the dry verm layer then case to the rim of the jar packing it down.  These will then be placed in a water tub show box for fruiting.  Just want to confirm this will be the most likely method to succeed or if there are any suggestions for improvement.

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: MetalPro]
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I’m intrigued. I’m just here to follow along.

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Snazz] * 1
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As you've read, my level of experience is N=1, so for what it's worth. For me these really stood out in terms of potency and total lack of bodyload. I'm looking for a more or less fixed set of species to focus on and these made it to the list.

Then again, that was one trip. Need to feed these to my wife for the official seal of approval.

I know there's many variables involved here, such as 'is there really notable difference between species that contain the same substances / precursors of substances?'

But as far as my experience goes, sect Zapo really isn't that visual. You said it lacked 'classic ... visuals'. Considering how godawfully strong they are, I found zapo, subtrop and ingeli lacking in OEVs. Cyan clade woodlovers can have me walk through tunnels of patterns that obscure the actual surroundings. Pans idem.

For me, the main advantage of these is that they lack any bodyload and can be harvested fresh almost year-round. For wild visuals, I'd recommend pan cyans or subaeruginosa or the like.


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Wrong thread :facepalm: EDITED.

EDITED again: While I'm here, anyone have any idea how long
spore prints of Zapos can last roughly?
I was struggling to get this species to germinate on plates unlike last year.
Must have stored them wrong or maybe needed to be rehydrated.


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Nature Reclaims All.

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Wedgie] * 3
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Not long.  I think waaaay back we discussed this on like page 2 or 3 of this thread for a paragraph or two.  Under a year usually.  I have some fairly recent popo prints if you want one (or a wedge) Just lmk!


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THE 49TH OYSTER BUCKET TEK

FREE WILL IS A SHADOW

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: alaskappalachian] * 5
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Ah noooo that explains why I lost 6+ plates to Jelly T.'s that
were too old and another 4 plates on a different print :frown:
Just means I gotta try again :laugh:

Thank you for the info much obliged 🏆
Oohh thank you 🥳 for sure I'll be sending you a PM soon
:bonghit3:

Jelly Trill.


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Nature Reclaims All.

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Wedgie] * 11
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The only Popo allowed

Tester jar flush 2


Mini bulk pinset


Millet and coir with a smidgeon of Ca


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Churpee Choozle]
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Just put some Zap Popo spores from two different members to agar yesterday.

These guys like similar environments as pans, right? High fae, manure sub, ph adjusted casing?


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I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 8
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I only started fiddling with them very recently, but here's plain coir, with coir for casing, in a tub (zap 'Popo')

(Cased grain)


(Spawned to coir)




Have to see how these flushes turn out in the following weeks, but this is absolutely acceptable to me, and just (buffered) coir. Simple as it gets


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No nation, no border
Fight law and order


Species grown so far

Edited by Churpee Choozle (10/31/26 11:32 AM)

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Churpee Choozle] * 5
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Yep. All section zapotecorum draw plenty of energy from the grain. No need for overthinking substrates.
:ancientaliens:

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: the_chosen_one] * 2
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Awesome, thanks guys!

I guess just a shoebox will do, easy. I love it!


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I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 8
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Unmodified leca water tub. Open the lid twice a day. A little patience. Easy peasy.
:solidnod:

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 5
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the_chosen_one said:


Unmodified leca water tub. Open the lid twice a day. A little patience. Easy peasy.
:solidnod:


:begone: :rofl:

PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Just put some Zap Popo spores from two different members to agar yesterday.

These guys like similar environments as pans, right? High fae, manure sub, ph adjusted casing?


Or you could make a substrate they really like :awesomenod:





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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Kloakk] * 2
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Kloakk said:
Or you could make a substrate they really like :awesomenod:






Jesus, dude
:vibin:

Please describe said substrate, kind sir!


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Cultivating Panaeolus cyanescens


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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Asura]
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Wrong thread


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I've got skills, they don't know where to use me
I'm like the best dressed guy at the nude beach
Nice to meet you!

Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (10/31/26 03:22 PM)

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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Asura] * 2
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Asura said:
Kloakk said:
Or you could make a substrate they really like :awesomenod:






Jesus, dude
:vibin:

Please describe said substrate, kind sir!


It's almost the same as Mico Zapotec's substrate, but I use cow manure compost instead of manure so I skipped the sand.

Substrate
- 35% Coir
- 30% Straw
- 15% Hwfp
- 10% Cow Manure Compost(sifted)
- 10% Vermiculite

Casing
- 60% Coir
- 30% Cactus Soil(sifted)
- 10% Vermiculite
- 1g/l Calcium Hydroxide


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: Kloakk]
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Do you hydrate your straw before pasteurization? Every time I've added it dry I end up with pasteurization failure. I figured there wasn't enough water content to get it up to temperature


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Re: Official Psilocybe zapotecorum thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:
Do you hydrate your straw before pasteurization? Every time I've added it dry I end up with pasteurization failure. I figured there wasn't enough water content to get it up to temperature


Absolutely, when I make substrate with straw, it is the first thing I start with. I don't boil water, but I'll use the hottest water coming out of my tap, make sure there's enough water to completely submerge the straw.

Then I let it sit while I do all the other ingredients. Then I put the straw in a colander and rinse it with hot water from the tap to get rid of dust, let it drain and still squeeze out excess water before adding it to the substrate.

I believe it's important to make sure that there isn't anything in a substrate that isn't properly hydrated before you start pasteurizing.


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“All Fungi are edible.

Some fungi are only edible once.”
― Terry Pratchett


Edited by Kloakk (10/31/26 07:17 PM)

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