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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk] * 1
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Kloakk said:
ghiajake said:
What is "canary" seed, like bird seed? And it's spotty at best with mail in the US. Not sure where arlo lives, but the prints he sent me got here to Indiana in 4-5 days.



Yes, these guys.


Here's wheat and canary seeds in a jar.


And yeah from Europe where I live to the US it takes 2 to 3 weeks, so the one that got there in 9 days is a new record :lol:




Interesting!:strokebeard:

Where would one buy these seeds you speak of?:muppet:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: rotvelta] * 2
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rotvelta said:
Interesting!:strokebeard:

Where would one buy these seeds you speak of?:muppet:



:pm: (because of local retailer) No doxxing :crankey:


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Some fungi are only edible once.”
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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Kloakk]
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The pan growth on agar going good. In few days when PC arrives il see how much I gotta relearn for grain prep lol n see what the pan agar does on grains 😅🫡


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An enigma some caerulescens n a mono 😎

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: bloodssonnew]
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Hello all!

Can anyone help? I dont remember who I have received this genetics from. Anyone have info about what I have here? Maube someone who has sent is here?


Edited by Mico Zapotec (09/25/26 11:33 AM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Mico Zapotec] * 10
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What’s up everyone! Just checking in glad to see this thread still thriving!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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Glad to see you here Jake, and it's good to see how popular pans have become.  my how the field of amateur mycology moves fast; you have been a big influence.  are you still growing?  breeding? 

what's your favorite pan to consume? 

what am i up to?  it rained!  i'm moving a truckload of wood chips around the garden today...  started a martha at a friends with pan portland and pan bisporus colville, which are moving fast...  and finally get to fruit subtrops and tamps

*edit*  and what's your favorite mushroom to consume?

here's my half-assed martha, suggestions?  https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29675823#29675823

Edited by Generic (09/25/26 12:09 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419]
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Jakeoncid419 said:
What’s up everyone! Just checking in glad to see this thread still thriving!



"The Man Right Chea"

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 1
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Hell yea JOC great to hear from ya! I hope all has been well brotha

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 1
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nice to see the pan master here!!!

how you going?:heart:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Jakeoncid419] * 1
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Jakeoncid419 said:
What’s up everyone! Just checking in glad to see this thread still thriving!



From one Jake to another, howdy partner!
:tipofthecap:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: ghiajake] * 1
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Hi Jake, hope you are well and kicking!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Baba Yaga]
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Hi All ^-^

I'm a Noob to cultivation, I've had a few successful Cube flushes and wanted to try my hand at some Pan Cyans (TTBVI). From what I've read they aren't much harder to grow than cubes (but are).

I've been having repeated behavior with some of my TTBVI attempts and i'm wondering if you amazing people could help me figure out what i'm doing wrong!?

My first attempt was with a 1.5:1 | Sub:Spawn ratio. using a 20% Cow Poo/Coir/Verm/Gypsum. I was attempting to run Baba Yaga's Fruit@Spawn non-modified tubs with no casing tek (this tek works great for cubes and reishi btw).

First 7qt Shoebox Fruit@Spawn non-modified tub tek Spawned 8/29 @ 1.5:1 | Sub:Spawn with 20%C-Poo/Verm/coir Mix with no casing.
Pic = (8/30) 1 day after Spawn to Bulk


Pic = (8/31 @ 8am) 2 days after Spawn to Bulk


Pic = (8/31 @ 5pm) 2 days after Spawn to Bulk


Pic = (8/31 @ 9pm) 2 days after Spawn to Bulk



It was seeming to just take off and doing great! Then the thing started happening. It started to consolidate very heavily and started bruising in spots Deep grey/ blue. Not green like trich, but deep bruising within the myc.


Pic = (9/03 @ 5pm) 6 days after Spawn to Bulk



Pic = (9/06 @ 11am) 9 days after Spawn to Bulk



Pic = (9/09 @ 11am) 12 days after Spawn to Bulk I accidentally lifted from the bottom cracking the substrate in half.



I left it alone for another week and by that point i gave up on it and tossed it.


Round 2... FIGHT!!

Spawned on 9/19 - the same 20% Cow Poo/Verm/Coir sub Mix this time with a ratio of 3:1 | Sub:Spawn

Pic = 3 days after Spawn to Bulk, Same crazy fast growth



And then the same thing happened again, The deep blue bruising followed by the yellowing of myc

Pic = 7 days after Spawn to Bulk




I'm going to attempt to put a casing layer on this to see if that's what its calling for since the growth is so rapid and the surface myc is very, very thick.

But im wondering if anyone here has seen this before or knows what it is?

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lo-Z] * 2
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I saw something similar with pans when I first got into pans and tried Baba's tek. It was also when I was just learning agar and hadn't developed an eye for what healthy mycelium looks like.

I don't have time to go through 100 pages to find my post right now, but if I remember correctly Baba made it clear that his tek is meant for 100% clean mycelium. Zero mold. Zero bacteria.

I ended up stepping away from pans for a while after that and when I came back it was to try TFs AIO jars and a JCM with a pH adjusted casing. By that time I had gotten better with Agar and ended up getting flushes.

First thing to check with pans is the cleanliness of your agar. Next is to check over your pasteurization.

I don't have much experience with uncased pans, but that yellow makes me think your innoculant wasn't clean.


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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I will have to add that this is exactly what my TTBVI Pan jars and plates looked like. I don’t know if saw my posts the last few weeks, but I am restarting from spores. I had a very kind shroomery peer who is sending me a new pan print to start over from.

But there were many people on here that had some great suggestions.
Baba has amazing advice that he gave me on top fruiting so you can get a good culture to start working with.
Fahts aerial myc transfers can help clean up cultures. 


Good luck man!


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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 1
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Thanks Puff, this is helpful.  I have this habit of making plates with the syringe i used to inoculate grains with. Now that I'm looking at my plates they seem A LOT thicker than the plates shows on Baba's tek. I was comparing them to my Cube plates.

This is a plate made with the same LC syringe used to inoculate the grain for this tub.





And @Joe, Thank you for this! I'll look into it and search back in the chat for this!

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lo-Z] * 2
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Lo-Z said:
Round 2... FIGHT!!

Spawned on 9/19 - the same 20% Cow Poo/Verm/Coir sub Mix this time with a ratio of 3:1 | Sub:Spawn

Pic = 3 days after Spawn to Bulk, Same crazy fast growth



And then the same thing happened again, The deep blue bruising followed by the yellowing of myc

Pic = 7 days after Spawn to Bulk




I'm going to attempt to put a casing layer on this to see if that's what its calling for since the growth is so rapid and the surface myc is very, very thick.

But im wondering if anyone here has seen this before or knows what it is?





What culture are you using? It might need more agar work or as suggested go back to spores.

Got a photo of your plates?

How much gap between the lid and top.

Is there any sign of knot formation at this point? Look at sides and bottom of tub as well.


I would case this thicker, maybe half inch and leave the lid off for a couple of days.


Edit: sorry, missed your post. Looks like you need to start from scratch, no point trying to fruit this.

Edited by Baba Yaga (09/26/26 04:16 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lo-Z] * 3
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The blue in the first pic is what I would consider good growth.

You can see in the 2nd Pic that the bad growth has overtaken the entire surface. Don't try to save this plate.

You can see how in the 2nd Pic how it's growing bumpy. That's usually a sign of bacteria.

The timelines you described seem way to fast compared to what I've experienced. That's usually a sign of mold.

Here are some old pics

Pre-casing



After casing



Bonus pic


Just get more picky with your plates and you'll get fruit. That's the hardest and most time consuming part.

It's also a good idea to do a Cabin Sequester or Trench once you're confident you don't have any mold in your sample.

My guess is that your plates have both mold and bacteria.

Pans can be picky bitches. They need bougie treatment


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Nice to meet you!

Edited by PuffM4gicDr4gon (09/26/26 03:51 PM)

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon] * 2
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:whathesaid:


Not sure if you are doing this already but make sure your agar has max nutrient content of 0.5% and no additives like nutritional yeast or peptone
as they can make a it more difficult to see what is going on.

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: PuffM4gicDr4gon]
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PuffM4gicDr4gon said:



The blue in the first pic is what I would consider good growth.

You can see in the 2nd Pic that the bad growth has overtaken the entire surface. Don't try to save this plate.

You can see how in the 2nd Pic how it's growing bumpy. That's usually a sign of bacteria.

The timelines you described seem way to fast compared to what I've experienced. That's usually a sign of mold.

Here are some old pics

Pre-casing



After casing



Bonus pic


Just get more picky with your plates and you'll get fruit. That's the hardest and most time consuming part.

It's also a good idea to do a Cabin Sequester or Trench once you're confident you don't have any mold in your sample.

My guess is that your plates have both mold and bacteria.

Pans can be picky bitches. They need bougie treatment





WOW THANKS PUFF, this is beyond a simple response. Thank you for the effort here.

They did colonize extremal fast, i was able to get those dates and times from the meta data on the photos, otherwise i wouldnt have known times.

Cabin Sequester or Trench :takingnotes:

it's growing bumpy. That's usually a sign of bacteria. :takingnotes:


This is very very good info and will take this and run with it.



And @Baba,,,, sooooooo I'm sinning here have been using some premade/poured PDA plates off amazon X) so i have no clue what the Nutrient % is. BUT I've just purchased the stuff to try Milkboy's PDA and will do the math to make these no more than 0.5% :salute:

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Re: Official Copelandia/Panaeolus Thread [Re: Lo-Z] * 1
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@kloakk

I know you have some pictures of some beautiful pan mycelium. Can you post a couple so we have a good Baseline of what to look for?


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