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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: CrAcKbAbY]
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Every time some form of aid or financial assistance is given to the pallastinian state its immidiately used to fund terror campaigns against israel.

Pallastinian muslims are conditioned from a very young age to hate israel. They protect hamas because not only are they not afraid to die a martyr, theyre looking forward to it. 72 virgins and all that dumb shit.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: lowbrow]
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lowbrow said:
Every time some form of aid or financial assistance is given to the pallastinian state its immidiately used to fund terror campaigns against israel.

Pallastinian muslims are conditioned from a very young age to hate israel. They protect hamas because not only are they not afraid to die a martyr, theyre looking forward to it. 72 virgins and all that dumb shit.



is that a bad thing? You say that like it's a bad thing.

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: ShroomDad]
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ShroomDad said:
lowbrow said:
Every time some form of aid or financial assistance is given to the pallastinian state its immidiately used to fund terror campaigns against israel.

Pallastinian muslims are conditioned from a very young age to hate israel. They protect hamas because not only are they not afraid to die a martyr, theyre looking forward to it. 72 virgins and all that dumb shit.



is that a bad thing? You say that like it's a bad thing.



Of course it is a bad thing. Virgins are boring .


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: vicepope]
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vicepope said:
Virgins are boring .



They are not virgins though, and not even humans.

They are spirits created solely for being with you.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Asante]
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that also sounds boring :lol:

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: mushboy]
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It's an unusual arrangement for sure.

What I'm saying is, everyone saying "72 virgins" under the impression these are human virgins, don't know the actual situation.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Bigbadwooof said:
CrAcKbAbY said:
Another idiotic take from you, which is to be expected.  If you're going to resort to name-calling, do it right bro...Only a complete dipshit would think I actually made that meme or 'provided a link to the source' for it.  I happened to randomly come across it on facebook recently, and it seemed to fit here nicely :shrug:



Again, how does it fit in a thread about Israeli Fascism? This is a thread about the government of Israel.

Btw, I obviously don't think you created the meme. I'm sure you're not capable of doing that..




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This thread is simply about the Israeli government, eh?  I could've sworn after reading through it, that it's mostly a rally for the type of antisemetic propaganda which has become so fashionable with the folks of your ilk nowadays :confused2:





I recently watched this documentary about the October 7th attack on the Nova Festival (which shows a lot of footage proudly taken by Hamas members with their GoPros, similar to other videos I've seen of them massacring civilians at the various kibbutz locations).  I've been to many festivals similar to this, and imagine many of those posting in this thread have as well.  Seeing the rockets soaring in from Gaza, followed by all the fucking retarded mongrels chasing everybody around the festival with their AK47s and grenades while shouting 'ALLAHU ACKBAR' was pretty wild.  These sick fucks are all religious fanatics and savages, who do their murdering and raping with fervent glee.

There's one scene around the 31 minute mark, where about 40 festival kids find a hiding spot in one of the bomb shelters, and then they are finally discovered by Hamas.  Anyone who tried running out of the shelter was shot, then they just kept tossing grenades inside until around 30 were dead (30 mangled and dismembered dead bodies of kids who were dancing and celebrating just hours earlier).  Then they chose their hostages and hauled them away.


As far as the Israeli government goes, at least it allows for such festivals to take place, and those attending to live the lifestyles they choose to live (very similar to the lifestyles of shroomery members who enjoy going to raves), along with the freedom of 2 million Palestinian Arabs to live and work amongst the Israeli citizens.  They also allowed Gazans access to their medical care facilities, and to work within Israel, with some Israeli citizens going so far as to help with transportation back and forth to treatment facilities for those with chronic illnesses, and providing job training and other types of support.  This, despite the repeated suicide bombings and various other terrorist attacks (including tens of thousands of rocket launches by the Gazans into Israeli civilian areas throughout the years) which ultimately led to the necessity for an increasingly secure containment of these rabid folks.

Israel wanted to have a peaceful two state solution for decades, but the Palestinians continually rejected the fair propositions and chose to continue to wage the war they've been waging since 1948, which ultimately seeks to destroy Israel because this is what their religion requires, and they have the delusional idea that it's their land.  They've been nothing more than squatters for centuries, occupied by a wide variety of empires and foreign powers...and the land would've remained as a shithole had the Jewish people not arrived and actually made something out of it once it was rightfully given back to them (it should be remembered that the word 'Jew' comes from Judaea, while 'Palestine' is a farcical name which was bestowed upon the area by the Romans once they ousted the Jews from Judaea).

So bottom line, the Palestinians had their many chances and they continually chose war and hatred based upon the religious death cult which they've aligned themselves with.  They chose relentless indoctrination of generations of their children, replacing their childhoods with warmongering, parading them around with AKs and strapping suicide vests on them.  They brought this current war onto themselves, and by design they've caused it to be as hellish as it is with all the unfortunate and unnecessary suffering of their innocent civilian population which Hamas has chosen to use as endless 'martyrs' so as to gain the sympathy and support from all the Western useful idiots, which has been very effective.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: CrAcKbAbY] * 2
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Damm that's one of the most high effort posts I've ever seen you made -- wild that defending genocide is what finally got you to stop shit posting here -- unfortunately for you, there is no such thing as justifiable genocide, and so all that effort won't do anything more than waste your time defending an on-going genocide

Hamas is not the root of Israeli facism, and this becomes quite clear if anyone looks at the situation in the West Bank with an honest disposition -- there is no Hamas government there, but the Palestinian  people still suffer though apartheid and ethnic cleansing -- anyone who can't acknowledge this, is just here to spread zionazis lies




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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: CrAcKbAbY]
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CrAcKbAbY said:
Bigbadwooof said:
CrAcKbAbY said:
Another idiotic take from you, which is to be expected.  If you're going to resort to name-calling, do it right bro...Only a complete dipshit would think I actually made that meme or 'provided a link to the source' for it.  I happened to randomly come across it on facebook recently, and it seemed to fit here nicely :shrug:



Again, how does it fit in a thread about Israeli Fascism? This is a thread about the government of Israel.

Btw, I obviously don't think you created the meme. I'm sure you're not capable of doing that..




:orly:



This thread is simply about the Israeli government, eh?  I could've sworn after reading through it, that it's mostly a rally for the type of antisemetic propaganda which has become so fashionable with the folks of your ilk nowadays :confused2:





I recently watched this documentary about the October 7th attack on the Nova Festival (which shows a lot of footage proudly taken by Hamas members with their GoPros, similar to other videos I've seen of them massacring civilians at the various kibbutz locations).  I've been to many festivals similar to this, and imagine many of those posting in this thread have as well.  Seeing the rockets soaring in from Gaza, followed by all the fucking retarded mongrels chasing everybody around the festival with their AK47s and grenades while shouting 'ALLAHU ACKBAR' was pretty wild.  These sick fucks are all religious fanatics and savages, who do their murdering and raping with fervent glee.

There's one scene around the 31 minute mark, where about 40 festival kids find a hiding spot in one of the bomb shelters, and then they are finally discovered by Hamas.  Anyone who tried running out of the shelter was shot, then they just kept tossing grenades inside until around 30 were dead (30 mangled and dismembered dead bodies of kids who were dancing and celebrating just hours earlier).  Then they chose their hostages and hauled them away.



Yes, truly awful. To make matters worse, the IDF doubled the number of people killed that day, by murdering survivors with hellfire missiles (The "Hannibal directive").

... Anyway, you're now defending Israel leveling 80+% of all civillian buildings in Gaza, and killing well over 100,000 civilians, most of whome have no affiliation with Hamas.

... And even if they did have an affiliation with Hamas, how could anyome blame them? The reason Israeli's terrorize Palestinians in the West Bank, and run them out of their homes, is because the PLA doesn't fight back, the way Hamas does.

You want to talk about barbaric? Barbaric is refusing to allow anaesthetic medicines to innocent children who need to have their limbs amputated, because they have been bombed.

Barbaric is a military that intentionally shoots young children in the head with sniper rifles. These things are unacceptable.

You want to talk about rape? There is a video of Israeli soldiers raping a palestinian woman until her internal organs were so damaged she died from the blood loss. The Israeli government, and the people of Israel themselves went after the whitle-blower, not the soldiers committing this horrendous crime.

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As far as the Israeli government goes, at least it allows for such festivals to take place, and those attending to live the lifestyles they choose to live (very similar to the lifestyles of shroomery members who enjoy going to raves), along with the freedom of 2 million Palestinian Arabs to live and work amongst the Israeli citizens. 



Sure, they afford many rights to Jewish citizens of Israel. The problem is they are an occupying force that denies a very long list of crucial rights to Gazans, and even Arab citizens of Israel. It is an apartheid state.

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They also allowed Gazans access to their medical care facilities, and to work within Israel, with some Israeli citizens going so far as to help with transportation back and forth to treatment facilities for those with chronic illnesses, and providing job training and other types of support. 



In Gaza, Israel targets Palestinian medical specialists, and also international doctors (doctors without borders) doing charity work. Israel targets journalists, more than any other military on record, because their crimes are so vast, that they don't want any sort of record to be established.

The IDF censors every story that comes out of Israel, via mainstream outlets, such as the New York Times.




This, despite the repeated suicide bombings and various other terrorist attacks (including tens of thousands of rocket launches by the Gazans into Israeli civilian areas throughout the years) which ultimately led to the necessity for an increasingly secure containment of these rabid folks.



Political terrorism in the middle-east began with the terror organizations that founded Israel in the first place. It wasn't the muslims (or Jews, for that matter), in the region that just one day decided to start engaging in terrorism. It was Jewish settlers from Europe.

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Israel wanted to have a peaceful two state solution for decades, but the Palestinians continually rejected the fair propositions and chose to continue to wage the war they've been waging since 1948, which ultimately seeks to destroy Israel because this is what their religion requires, and they have the delusional idea that it's their land. 



This is not true. Israel has sabotaged every single effort to implement a two state solution. Anyone who knows anything knows this. They don't even deny it anymore.


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They've been nothing more than squatters for centuries, occupied by a wide variety of empires and foreign powers...and the land would've remained as a shithole had the Jewish people not arrived and actually made something out of it once it was rightfully given back to them (it should be remembered that the word 'Jew' comes from Judaea, while 'Palestine' is a farcical name which was bestowed upon the area by the Romans once they ousted the Jews from Judaea).



A farcical name? :lol:

Wait til you find out that every name for every single thing in the world was made up by someone at some point in time.

What point do you think you're making here?

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So bottom line, the Palestinians had their many chances and they continually chose war and hatred based upon the religious death cult which they've aligned themselves with.  They chose relentless indoctrination of generations of their children, replacing their childhoods with warmongering, parading them around with AKs and strapping suicide vests on them.  They brought this current war onto themselves, and by design they've caused it to be as hellish as it is with all the unfortunate and unnecessary suffering of their innocent civilian population which Hamas has chosen to use as endless 'martyrs' so as to gain the sympathy and support from all the Western useful idiots, which has been very effective.



Bottom line, Israel is a barbaric, Fascist apartheid ethnostate that has been out of control since it's founding. They have been massacring the Palestinian people, for a century, and October 7th was a minor instance of blowback, that the IDF exaccerbated massively, by murdering their own citizens.

Religious nutters are the real useful idiots, and I suspect you are one of them, or a Jewish zionist yourself, because no sensible person agrees with the things you are saying. Only people who are guided by an underlying agenda, whose mind has been made up before observing the facts of the matter, hold your views.

Even Sara, a woman who lives in Israel, who goes to rave-type festivals, etc... doesn't have the disgustingly dehumanizing views of Palestinian people that you do :shrug:

The whole world is now turning on Israel, and for very good reason.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
Damm that's one of the most high effort posts I've ever seen you made -- wild that defending genocide is what finally got you to stop shit posting here -- unfortunately for you, there is no such thing as justifiable genocide, and so all that effort won't do anything more than waste your time defending an on-going genocide

Hamas is not the root of Israeli facism, and this becomes quite clear if anyone looks at the situation in the West Bank with an honest disposition -- there is no Hamas government there, but the Palestinian  people still suffer though apartheid and ethnic cleansing -- anyone who can't acknowledge this, is just here to spread zionazis lies




Source: https://www.btselem.org/the_elimination_project/infographics.php



Israel regularly culls Palestinian people (They call it "Mowing the grass") with mini Oct 7 massacres all them time... and crackbaby is shocked and enraged when they are met with one small measure of blowback. :lol:

Israel imports customized armored bulldozers to level the homes of innocent civillians in Gaza and the West Bank, and cRaCkBaBy calls the Palestinians barbaric :lol:

These people are SO CRAAAAZY!


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: shivas.wisdom] * 1
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shivas.wisdom said:
Hamas is not the root of Israeli facism.





This is the one thing you happen to be partially correct about (facism isn't the correct term).  Hamas isn't the root cause of the Israelis being on guard to the extent which they are today.  The Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations waged war upon them from day 1 of their establishment as a state, and failed.  One would think they would cut some slack to folks who just escaped from the Holocaust and finally had been granted their own state after being dispersed across Europe and Russia for 1800 years, but nope.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 3
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I'm not even going to engage with your retarded, false arguments.



Bigbadwooof said:
Religious nutters are the real useful idiots, and I suspect you are one of them, or a Jewish zionist yourself, because no sensible person agrees with the things you are saying. Only people who are guided by an underlying agenda, whose mind has been made up before observing the facts of the matter, hold your views.

Even Sara, a woman who lives in Israel, who goes to rave-type festivals, etc... doesn't have the disgustingly dehumanizing views of Palestinian people that you do :shrug:






I'm far from religious, and I'm also not Jewish (not that it should fucking matter, unless you happen to be the racist I suspect you to be).  I happen to believe that Israel has a right to exist and defend itself, and that they are the one outpost of liberal secularism surrounded by neanderthal nations stuck in the 7th century.  Israel is the tip of the spear for Western civilization in its conflict against jihadism and Islamism, and therefore an important ally of the United States, worth protecting.


As far as Sara expressing her views of Palestinians as a Jew who lives in Israel, I suppose she's been gracious enough to withhold being brutally honest, as it would be kind of a bad look.  I don't really give a fuck what anyone in this forum thinks of me, so I'll go ahead and lay out the truth as I see it, without worrying about being accused of being a 'zionist'.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: Bigbadwooof] * 1
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Something Ive always wondered, wasn't the rave on October 7th basically a loud party celebrating the theft of Palestinian land that was within hearing of the Palestinians? Weren't they taunting Hamas?

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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: CrAcKbAbY] * 1
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"The Palestinians and surrounding Arab nations waged war upon them from day 1 of their establishment as a state"

Israel wasn't established on empty land -- it's very foundation was built on the violent ethnic cleansing known as the Nakba (the catastrophe) -- would you accept a UN decision that gives away 56% of the USA to establish a new country? -- would you accept the attempts to ethnically cleanse this land grant, or would you act on the right to defend yourself?

The central facts of what happened in the Nakba during the 1948 Palestine war are well established, documented, and widely agreed upon by most Israeli, Palestinian, and other historians

"Never again" was supposed to be a universalist injunction to prevent all forms of genocide -- but it's been perverted by zionazis as justification for oppression, apartheid, and genocide of Palestinians for generations


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: CrAcKbAbY]
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CrAcKbAbY said:
I'm not even going to engage with your retarded, false arguments.



Bigbadwooof said:
Religious nutters are the real useful idiots, and I suspect you are one of them, or a Jewish zionist yourself, because no sensible person agrees with the things you are saying. Only people who are guided by an underlying agenda, whose mind has been made up before observing the facts of the matter, hold your views.

Even Sara, a woman who lives in Israel, who goes to rave-type festivals, etc... doesn't have the disgustingly dehumanizing views of Palestinian people that you do :shrug:






I'm far from religious, and I'm also not Jewish (not that it should fucking matter, unless you happen to be the racist I suspect you to be).



Everything I said is accurate, you're just not capable of arguing against it, because your position is indefensible.

Also, calling me a racist, while you're post repeatedly calls Palestinians "barbaric" and essentially "inhuman" in a variety of ways is wild.

Anyway, you tried to make a real post, but all you brought was a bunch of one-sided, racist/bigoted garbage arguments, and you failed, so I agree, you may as well go back to "shitposting".


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As far as Sara expressing her views of Palestinians as a Jew who lives in Israel, I suppose she's been gracious enough to withhold being brutally honest, as it would be kind of a bad look.  I don't really give a fuck what anyone in this forum thinks of me, so I'll go ahead and lay out the truth as I see it, without worrying about being accused of being a 'zionist'.



Why don't you let Sara speak for herself.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: ShroomDad] * 1
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ShroomDad said:
Something Ive always wondered, wasn't the rave on October 7th basically a loud party celebrating the theft of Palestinian land that was within hearing of the Palestinians? Weren't they taunting Hamas?



Thats a really colorful interpretation of a rave.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: ShroomDad] * 1
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Perhaps the organizers had that intent. I don't think many the rave goers had the intention of mocking anyone, but partying next to an open-air prison was extremely distasteful at best. Imagine hosting a party next to a maximum-security prison. Would you feel bad if some of those inmates snapped and escaped before something bad happened? The difference is that nobody in Gaza committed any crimes.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: True North] * 2
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Yes.  Of the millions there,  not a single one ever committed a crime.


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Re: Israeli Fascism [Re: True North] * 1
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I feel like I’ve already expressed my views many times. As I’ve stated before, I still support a two state solution even after Oct7 because there simply is no other option.

While I acknowledge the Jewish people as being the indigenous inhabitants of Judea and modern day Israel, Palestinians have their own history and connection to the land too. Zionism is an indigenous people’s movement that believes Jews have a right to self-determination upon their ancestral homeland, so to deny that to Palestinians goes directly against the very principles at the core of Zionism even if their history is a more recent one the connection is still there.

All life is beautiful, sacred, and deserving of dignity, respect, and protection. Palestinian life is no exception.

That all said, I would be an idiot if I tried to say we were anywhere close to where we need to be for a two state solution to actually work. Hamas still retains substantial armed and coercive power in Gaza, and its 1988 charter explicitly called for violence against Jews, that goal still remains the same today. Meanwhile, Israel’s governing coalition has empowered far right figures such as Ben-Gvir, while settler leaders such as Daniella Weiss continue pushing their own extremist vision.

As generations of conflict, trauma, and hostility compound, tensions rise, anger deepens, and hatred grows fat in even the most peaceful hearts. The enormous work required on both sides to undo dehumanization, rebuild trust, and create political cultures capable of coexistence is daunting to think about and seems impossible at times.

But I know eventually we will get there. I might not see it in my lifetime, but we will get there, because, as I mentioned before, a two state solution is the only realistic path I see to both peoples having self-determination, security, and a future.


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