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Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid.
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Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid, Considers Sealing Gaza Settlements to Nonresidents

By Amy Teibel Associated Press Writer
Published: Jul 6, 2005






JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel will ask Washington for hundreds of millions of dollars to help foot the bill for next month's $2 billion evacuation of the Gaza Strip and four northern West Bank settlements, a senior Israeli official said Wednesday.
Meanwhile, the government is considering declaring Gaza settlements off-limits to nonresidents to thwart an attempt by settlers to sabotage the evacuation by flooding the area with protesters, an aide to Prime Minister Ariel Sharon said.

Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas said in an interview with the London-based Arabic newspaper Asharq Al-Awsat that he and Sharon might hold a summit before the pullout, set to begin in mid-August. They last met in June but failed to resolve several major issues.

On Tuesday, the main settlers group called on its followers to migrate en masse to the Gaza settlements on July 18. Sharon aide Raanan Gissin said the government was considering sealing the area before the march, and that Sharon, Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz and Internal Security Minister Gideon Ezra would have final say.

Gaza was sealed briefly last week before the military stormed an abandoned hotel to remove 150 Jewish extremists barricaded inside. Most were from outside Gaza.

Israeli government officials will head to Washington next week to ask for money to relocate military bases and develop the Negev Desert in southern Israel, where most of the uprooted settlers are expected to move, said a senior Israeli official, speaking on condition of anonymity because the request has not been formally made.

The delegation will ask for "several hundreds of millions of dollars," the official said, refusing to be more specific.

With just six weeks until the evacuation, Mofaz told lawmakers on Tuesday that Israel plans to send 45,000 soldiers and police to evacuate the 9,000 Gaza and West Bank settlers. The massive deployment reflects expectations of widespread resistance, some of it possibly violent.

Extremists have already tried to disrupt life around the country by blocking highways, and have threatened to step up the resistance as the evacuation date nears.

Sharon told lawmakers he has instructed security forces "not to allow the blocking of roads, damage to communications' structures, scattering of nails (on the roads) and such things. The order is unequivocal - life is not to be disrupted. We shall not allow it."

Sharon also said Israel has made it clear to the Palestinian Authority that it would respond harshly if Palestinian militants fire on soldiers and settlers during the pullout.

"If there is fire during the evacuation, our response will be very harsh, possibly so harsh that it would destroy the whole process," he said.

Late Tuesday, Palestinian Interior Minister Nasser Yousef met Mofaz to discuss coordinating the withdrawal, but no agreements were announced.

The World Bank, meanwhile, is promoting a "sunken" road linking the noncontiguous territories of Gaza and the West Bank, and foreign security inspectors at Gaza's future airport and seaport, to give Palestinians freedom of movement while keeping Israelis safe after Israel's pullout.

The bank's regional director, Nigel Roberts, said in an interview with The Associated Press Tuesday that the international community would look closely at Israeli and Palestinian performance - including Israeli willingness to lift restrictions on Palestinian movement and Palestinian reform - before pumping money into Gaza.

"Donors in my view would be ill-advised to inject large additional sums of money today unless the policy conditions are put in place that will enable Palestinian economic recovery," Roberts said. "It's simply a waste of money."

Gaza aid is to be discussed at this week's G-8 summit of the world's richest nations
http://ap.tbo.com/ap/breaking/MGBVQT8FTAE.html


we have to pay for this?


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: lonestar2004]
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Israel will ask Washington for hundreds of millions of dollars to help foot the bill for next month's $2 billion evacuation of the Gaza Strip and four northern West Bank settlements, a senior Israeli official said Wednesday.

WTF????

It costs 2 billion dollars to stop occupying an area?

Shouldn't the cessation of military activity in an area reduce military spending?


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: trendal]
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Quote:
Israel will ask Washington for hundreds of millions of dollars.......


This is the reason the Muslim world, hates America.
They dont like us supporting Isreal, and I don't blame them.
Isreal and Palestine have been arguing for YEARS AND YEARS.
Our involvment is only causing MORE trouble than it is worth.


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: trendal]
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trendal said:
WTF????

It costs 2 billion dollars to stop occupying an area?

Shouldn't the cessation of military activity in an area reduce military spending?


I suspect this is compensation paid to relocated settlers. Some families are being paid up to $300,000. Damn cheeky to ask the US taxpayer to foot the bill though.

Edited by psilomonkey (07/06/05 11:01 AM)

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: psilomonkey]
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Damn cheeky to ask the US taxpayer to foot the bill though.

Yeah no shit!

"Ok so a few years ago we kind of took over and occupied some foreign land. Then we let some of our citizens start settlements on this foreign land. Now we have to pull out and it's going to cost us a lot to pay-off our settlers so...uh...think you can help pay, America?" :rolleyes:


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: trendal]
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And did we (the United States) support Israeli settlements?


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: lonestar2004]
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Not that I know of, or at least not directly.

I suppose your (the US) continued "blanket" support for Israel and just about anything they do could be taken as implicit support for Israeli settlements in the Gaza strip, though.


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: trendal]
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I wonder if the money and pull-out is going to fix anything? what a fucking mess.


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: lonestar2004]
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I expect it's going to piss-off a good portion of Jews, especially the Hilltop People and their extremist groups.


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: lonestar2004]
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God I am sick of the Israeli's. I wish they would just disappear. Foreign policy would be so much more simple.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: Redstorm]
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yep


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: Redstorm]
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If America were to stop helping Israel, many of our foreign policy woes would disappear.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: niteowl]
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In some cases, I agree. We could free up a lot of foreign aid, which could go to places that actually need it. I believe the militant Muslims would still hate us; they'd just find a different reason to hate us.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: Redstorm]
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As long as we have a military presence in the Middle East, they will hate us and want us out.

The only reason they hated us to begin with, was our support of Israel.

They wanted the Israelites dead.
We helped Israel occupy the land.

Their pov now has become.....
"Kill All Americans!
Israel only exists because of the US support they get.
Get rid of America and Israel will soon follow"

If we had stayed out of Israels business...the Muslims would have already gotten rid of them.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: niteowl]
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If i remember they also hated us because we were in Saudi Arabia and a few other countries.


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America has a debt problem and a failure of leadership.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: niteowl]
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They should be pissed off at Great Britain just as much as they are at us.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: Redstorm]
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Great Britain has supported Israel, but not as blatantly as America has IMO.

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: lonestar2004]
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if they were so worried about cost, perhaps they should
not have illegally occupied the land to begin with.


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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: Redstorm]
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Redstorm said:
They should be pissed off at Great Britain just as much as they are at us.


Yeah, sly fuckers them Brits. Always good to fight along side a bigger brighter target :smile:

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Re: Israel to Seek Millions of U.S. Pullout Aid. [Re: niteowl]
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niteowl said:
Great Britain has supported Israel, but not as blatantly as America has IMO.


I would believe that creating Israel in the first place is pretty much blatantly supporting them.

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