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2003 Palestinian Authority Textbook Calls for Jihad and Martyrdom
Following the Oslo Accords, the Palestinian Authority began to devise new schoolbooks that showed a relative change in content and direction. MEMRI's 2001 study of Palestinian schoolbooks, "Narrating Palestinian Nationalism," found that the Palestinian textbooks produced after Oslo reflected a general attempt to lessen the virulence of anti-Israel venom, as direct incitement significantly declined while a serious effort was made to enhance values such as democracy and freedom. [1]
By 2003, however, a newly-printed textbook produced by the Palestinian Authority Ministry of Education titled "Islamic Culture," intended for students in the 11th grade, shows a return to incitement for Jihad and martyrdom. [2] The following are excerpts from the textbook:
The Role of the State in Islam
(Page 98): "[One of] the State's tasks is to strengthen the ties between the people and their Creator? to defend the religion and protect it from [heretical] innovators and doubters? to prepare the nation for Jihad and to defend the country from its enemies? to increase the nation's level of knowledge? because implementing the religious duties and knowing the necessary religious commands requires some amount of knowledge and education."
(Page 104): "The nation should support the ruler in anything that prompts progress? In external matters [the nation should assist] through Jihad, while in the domestic arena it should help through? industrial, agricultural, moral, and social revival? and by adhering to the religious laws?"
Jihad and the Propagation of Islam
(Page 208): "Islam is Allah's religion for all human beings. It should be proclaimed and invite [people] to join it wisely and through appropriate preaching and friendly discussions. However, such methods may encounter resistance and the preachers may be prevented from accomplishing their duty? then, Jihad and the use of physical force against the enemies become inevitable?
"Jihad is an Islamic term that equates to the term war in other nations. The difference is that Jihad has noble goals and lofty aims, and is carried out only for the sake of Allah and for His glory? [By contrast] wars by other nations are mainly waged because of wickedness, aggression, love of domination, expanding influence, looting properties, murder, and the fulfillment of ambitions and desires, such as the war that the Western countries waged to exploit Islamic countries for imperialistic purposes, to control their Muslim citizens and to rob their resources and richness?"
(Page 209): "In Mecca, Allah's Messenger called [to join] Islam by using evidence and proofs? His weapons and those of his companions at that stage of spreading the message [of Islam] were perseverance and restraint. After the Prophet's migration to Al-Medina, and the emergence of an Islamic society in it, there was no escaping the fight against aggression and the polytheists? Following that, the duty of Jihad was imposed on all Muslims?
"Allah's Messenger practiced Jihad during his sojourn in Al-Medina, his companions and followers followed in his footsteps.
"However is Jihad a personal duty [Fardh 'Ein] that each Muslim is required to fulfill personally, or is it a collective duty [Fardh Kifaya]? It is likely a collective duty. If some Muslims fulfill it, then it is not required of the rest as long as [the acts of those who waged it] are sufficient? [however] if no one practices Jihad, then all Muslims are guilty of negligence.
"Jihad becomes a personal duty in the following three cases:
"When Muslims are attacked. When the enemy is present in a Muslim country, it is the duty of the [Muslim] citizens of that country to fight the enemy and chase them away. If they are unable [to do so], the personal duty [of Jihad] passes on to their neighbors, until the enemy is defeated and destroyed?
"In the case of a general call to arms. When a Muslim ruler declares it, or calls a specific group, it is the duty of Muslims to answer the call?
"Whoever attends a battle, it is his duty to fight the enemy and to partake in the battle and not to be delinquent?"
(Pages 210-211): " Types of Jihad:
"The physical Jihad - Participation [in battle] against the enemy. To fight him directly with weapons, and with actual participation in the battle and with self-sacrifice for the sake of Allah. This is the ultimate requisite from a [believer]. Allah promised anyone who participates personally in Jihad for His sake Paradise, or that He will return him safely to his family with great spoils.
"The material Jihad ? He who wages such a Jihad gives some of his money in order to equip Muslim armies with various weapons, necessary supplies, land, sea and air transportation, and anything else that those who wage Jihad need in order to defeat the enemy, to glorify Allah's name, and to strengthen His faith. Included in the material Jihad is the construction of military installations, fortifications, strongholds, airports, and seaports, that are necessary for the Muslim armies, as well as health centers and hospitals for the soldiers of Jihad and their families, and granting money to those who implement Jihad and to their families.
"The Jihad of ideas - Jihad accomplished by mouth and pen and by providing irrefutable evidence against enemies and inviting them [to recognize] Allah. This Jihad includes preaching, writing, singing, etc.
"Jihad accomplished through? contact with Jihad participants and through participation in acts related to Jihad such as transporting soldiers and their provisions, serving them water and food, taking care of the wounded and guarding a [military] position.
"The Islamic nation today is in urgent need [of reviving] the spirit of Jihad in its sons, [by using] all types of Jihad and to concentrate all its resources on strengthening Allah's religion and to force His enemies [to surrender]."
(Page 213): "Jihad is one of life's needs. A nation cannot defend its religion and uphold its honor and its motherland if it does not have the power to do so. This is why Islam imposed [the duty] of Jihad on the Muslim nation when [a Muslim] society and state emerged in Al-Medina?"
Propagating Islam
(Page 214): "Allah instructed the Muslims to convince people [with the message of Islam] in a wise way, by appropriate preaching and friendly discussions, so that the spread of Islam is achieved through intellectual persuasion, inner gratification and serenity and not through compulsion as Allah said 'There is no compulsion in religion?' [Koran 2:256]
"[However], when the despots confront Islamic preaching, prevent the preachers from bringing the good tidings [of Islam] to the people, build roadblocks and obstacles in preachers' way, and prevent the word from reaching their people - then Jihad becomes the only means to remove these obstacles, which deprive people of their freedom of choice and prevent the propagation of Islam. Allah's Messenger instructed those who wage Jihad not to initiate war against their enemies [as a first option], but to offer them Islam, and if they refuse it - to suggest to them to pay Jizya [tax imposed on non-Muslims under Muslim rule]? and if they refuse again, to fight them.
"Jihad is considered a way to strengthen the nation and [to secure] its victory in an armed struggle when it uses all its resources, efforts and capabilities for its sake? Jihad is also considered a source of welfare and prosperity for the Muslims. After realizing victory, he who wages Jihad returns to his family high-aspiring with his head high up, thanking Allah for his grace. If he is blessed with Shahada [martyrdom] and honor, his soul returns to its Creator to live a different life, content with the rewards and honor bestowed upon it, a life of grace thanks to Allah, as the Koran says [3:169-170] 'Do not consider those who died in the cause of Allah as dead, rather as alive at their lord sustained?'"
(Page 215): "The Islamic nation needs to spread the spirit of Jihad and the love of self-sacrifice [Shahada] among its sons throughout the generations, and especially when materialism is uppermost in people's minds and they abandon Jihad while the enemy desires [to exploit] them? It is clear that the respect and power of the Islamic nation are linked to the preservation of a strong Jihad spirit. When this spirit declines and the nation has no power to help its weak elements and to defend itself from its enemies, then the nation is attacked from the outside, the aggressors desire it, they humiliate it, plunder its resources, kill its people, conquer its land and live there in immorality."
The Risks of Ignoring Jihad
(Page 304): "A. Enemies occupy Muslim lands, their resources are plundered, their blood is spilled, their honor tarnished and as a result they [the Muslims] live a life of disgrace and oppression. B. Losing the great reward that Allah promised those who wage Jihad and the Shuhada [martyrs]. C. Severe punishment on Judgment Day."
(Page 305): "Allah instructed the faithful to partake in Jihad in all circumstances, be it easy or hard, when they are few or many, at times of prosperity or need, when they are strong or weak. Their Jihad should be through self-sacrifice or material for the sake of glorifying Allah's name. This is the way to enjoy this world and to succeed in the Hereafter."
The Punishment for Abandoning Islam
(Page 155): "The logical reason for executing a person who abandons Islam is the following: There is nothing in Islam that comes in contrast to human nature. Whoever joins Islam after recognizing its truth and after tasting its sweetness and then abandons it - is in fact rebelling against truth and logic. Like any other regime, Islam has to protect itself therefore this punishment [execution] awaits the person who abandons it, because he is spreading doubt about Islam?
"Abandoning Islam is a crime that warrants a severe punishment? [The phases of punishment are]:
"Urging [the sinner] to recant immediately?
"Warning him of the implications of his persistence in abandoning Islam, namely warning him that he will be executed.
"Execute the sinner if he persists in [his decision to] abandon Islam?"
Christian Missionary Activities
(Page 252): "Missionaries are one of the Western institutions used for intellectual invasion of the Muslim world. They tried to get the Muslims out of Islam by weakening the faith in their hearts and accepting the Western way of life. Outwardly they call for adopting the faith of Jesus, but in reality they try to facilitate the Western intellectual invasion of the Islamic countries? The missionary organizations throughout the Islamic world tried to weaken the faith in the hearts of the Muslims, to spread secular ideas to replace Islamic ideology and to pave the way for the occupation of Islamic countries and strengthening Imperialism in them?
"The missionary movement left deep impressions in Islamic life, such as:
"Admiration and adoption of the Western way of life? Materialistic and exploitative Western criteria and values and their understanding of life was common to the point that many Muslims yearned for it and turned to Western culture and literature.
"Weakening the Islamic spirit of the young generation as a result of weakening the faith in their hearts and the acceptance of contagious Western ideas and principles. Capitalist, Communist, and atheist ideas spread among the Muslims?
"Giving the educational system in the Islamic countries a Western flavor. The missionaries, with the help of Imperialism, were able to turn their philosophy and culture into educational foundations in many Islamic countries. Western history and culture became the main source of education and science-learning for Muslim children?
"Defamation of Islamic history and the life-histories of the Muslim Khalifs, and presenting Islamic history as [a series of] wars, conflicts, civil wars, revolutions, battles over power, and repression of citizens? "Faulting Islam, its Messenger, and the truth of his prophecies, and spreading misleading ideas, such as the claim that Islam expanded by the sword and by coercion. Also, faulting the divorce laws and polygamy and depicting Islamic legal punishments as inhumane."
http://www.memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Area=palestinian&ID=SR2203
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
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Thats too long. Can you at least highlight the important and interesting parts? I'm just speaking on behalf of the average surfer here. I'm sure the hardcore ones interested in whats going on there will take the time to read it all.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
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I just watched a BBC documentary called 'Death in Gaza'. Now the BBC is pretty consistantly biased against Israel, however the stuff they showed about the Palestinian culture was shocking. Children learning how to make grenades and talking about how they want to be martyrs. That is one fucked up culture.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Now the BBC is pretty consistantly biased against Israel
Care to prove that assertion?
Ive seen the documentary too. It just reinforced my belief that the extremists on BOTH sides are the problem.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: GazzBut]
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Now the BBC is pretty consistantly biased against Israel
Care to prove that assertion?
Ive seen the documentary too. It just reinforced my belief that the extremists on BOTH sides are the problem.
I havent seen the documentary, however that is my take on it as well.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: GazzBut]
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the extremists on BOTH sides are the problem.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
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So, do you care to show how Israeli kids are strapping bombs to themselves to blow up Palestinians at bus stops and pizzarias, and storming there house for no reason shooting infants and pregnant women? Or maybe the parties the Israelis throw when they kill Palestinians, and how they are given parades and called martyrs, or how Israeli textbooks tell Israelis that it is their job to drive out the Palestinians, and that they own all of Palestine? Do the Israelis have terrorist summer camps for children? Do the Israelis hope their children become martyrs killing innocent Palestinians? Do Israelis lynch their own people for being seen with Palestinians? Does Israeli state TV tell Israelis their job is to kill all Muslims everywhere?
Compared to this Israeli settlers refusing to leave the West Bank, home demolitions of terrorists, and Israelis killing ARMED Palestinian terrorists by returning fire, seem mild at best.
I'm sorry, but I cannot accept the cliche' moral equivalence line, only one side is extemist. The other is only doing what it can to defend against an ignorant, irrational and brainwashed enemy.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
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There are important facts here. This is from HonestReporting.com, a pro-Israeli website on media bias. You can complain about their own biases, but I think their analysis is very accurate and they are very factual.
Documenting BBC Documentaries
A new bbcwatch report finds an overwhelming anti-Israel bias in BBC documentary films.
Foreign visitors to England are generally impressed not only by Buckingham Palace and buttery scones, but also by the high quality of British television. In-depth, non-commercial TV in the UK is enabled primarily by massive public funding of the British Broadcasting Corporation (BBC), which receives about ?3 billion ($5.5 billion) in public tax money a year. The BBC's highly influential international branch ― BBC World Service ― draws from these funds to bring their programming to no less than 152 countries worldwide.
The generous BBC budget and lack of commercial pressure allow it to broadcast one type of content ― documentary films ― that has unique potential to add quality context to day-to-day news.
But a new, in-depth study released by London attorney Trevor Asserson's bbcwatch indicates that the BBC has used their documentary films on world events not to provide essential, impartial news context, but rather as a platform for an unremitting ideological mission: 'a campaign to vilify Israel.'
Of the seventeen documentary programs the BBC produced on Israel over the past four years, only one presented Israel in a positive light; the other sixteen were overwhelmingly pro-Palestinian, casting Israel as a brutal aggressor nation.
These programs are generally well-advertised several days beforehand, and are typically broadcast at peak viewing times. Here are just a few of the anti-Israel documentaries aired by the BBC recently, with bbcwatch's comments:
● The Ugly War: Children of Vengeance (2/24/02) : The hidden world of Palestinian terrorists (referred to throughout as 'militias' and 'martyrs'). "Terrorist bombings of Israeli civilians are painted as an entirely legitimate activity, almost heroic."
● Israel's Secret Weapon (4/30/03) : Looks at the build-up of Israel's nuclear weapons program. The documentary begins by asking the ominous questions "Which country in the Middle East has undeclared nuclear weapons?" "Which country in the Middle East has undeclared biological and chemical capabilities?" and "Which country in the Middle East has no outside inspections?" (see BBC promo at right)
The documentary was broadcast shortly after the Iraq war had ended. "The inference behind these opening remarks, which is repeated throughout the film, is that Israel would have been a more appropriate target than Iraq for the coalition forces to attack."
● Suicide Killers: Everyman (4/3/02) : The psychology and ideology of the suicide bomber worldwide. "One is made to feel sorry for and sympathetic with the Palestinian suicide bomber who says he 'loved life and wanted to be a doctor. Occupation has murdered my dreams.'"
● The War Party (5/18/03) : A group of conservative Washington politicians ― the 'neocons' ―are depicted as dangerous or even evil. "This is a highly sensitive issue," the narrator says, but "the majority of neo-conservatives have been and remain Jewish...are strongly pro-Zionist and want to topple regimes in the Middle East to help Israel..." Says bbcwatch, "It is hard to find clear blue water between these theories and the Protocols of the Elders of Zion."
● Days That Shook the World: Birth of Israel (1/28/04) : History of the birth of Israel, told partially through the eyes of an imaginary pair of Palestinian brothers. Presents "the fundamental unfairness underpinning the existence of the Jewish state. It is suggested that the Jews wish to expel all the Palestinians," conveniently ignoring the fact that the Jews accepted the 1947 UN partition plan, while the Arabs rejected it.
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As continually noted by HonestReporting (and by journalist Tom Gross in a recent article), these BBC documentaries are part of a deep-seated, institutional anti-Israel bias, a culture that drove the senior BBC Arabic Service correspondent in Gaza, Fayad Abu Shamala, to announce at a Hamas rally in May 2001 that journalists and media organizations, including the BBC, are "waging the campaign shoulder-to-shoulder together with the Palestinian people."
Indeed, the bbcwatch report found that despite the BBC's legal obligation from its charter to "provide a properly balanced service consisting of a wide range of subject matter," ensuring that "no significant strand of thought should go unreflected or underrepresented," the BBC actually devotes a highly disproportionate amount of space to the Israeli/Palestinian in general, and to the Palestinian point-of-view in particular. This further strengthens what viewers sense from any documentary on its own ― the BBC has an overriding, active agenda to indict Israel not only for local problems, but for much of the world's ills.
Moreover, the reputation and broad reach of the BBC ensure the immense and potentially dangerous influence of its material, fanning the flames of worldwide anti-Semitism. Reports bbcwatch: "It is not fanciful to contemplate that, by portraying Israel in an unnecessarily negative light, the BBC might itself unwittingly encourage aggression not only against Israelis, but also against UK Jewish citizens."
http://www.honestreporting.com/articles/45884734/critiques/Documenting_BBC_Documentaries.asp
http://www.bbcwatch.com/
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
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Israel's morning class
Under what possible moral compass is blowing up schoolchildren justified?
Khaled Amayreh reports from Hebron
http://www.ahram.org.eg/weekly/2001/562/re1.htm
Last Thursday, an undercover unit of the Israeli army buried a mine in
the
sand that flows around Abdullah Siyam Primary School in Khan Younis,
Gaza
Strip.
A few hours later, as Palestinian children headed to school, the mine
exploded. Five school children were instantly reduced to broken flesh.
The
youngest was aged just six.
All came from the same extended family: Akram Naim Astal, 6, and his
brother Mohamed, 13; Omar Idris Astal, 12, and his brother Anis, 10;
and
their cousin, Mohamed Sultan Astal, 12.
Their young bodies were mutilated beyond recognition. The limbs of one
child were found 50 metres away. Some of the children could only be
identified by their school bags, brightly coloured and spattered with
blood, still dangling from their butchered bodies.
Initially, the Israeli army denied any guilt, alleging instead that the
children had played with an old unexploded (Israeli) tank shell.
But after left-wing Israelis like Meretz leader Yossi Sarid accused the
government of a cover-up, the occupation army at last admitted
"indirect
responsibility."
A statement issued by the army on 26 November accepted that the bomb
that
killed the five children had been planted by an undercover unit and
that
it "might have been activated" by an officer. That same army, utterly
unashamed, did not even give the families space to grieve. At the
funeral
on Friday, Israeli soldiers sprayed the angry mourners with bullets.
There, they killed another boy: 15-year-old Wael Ali Radwan from the
neighbourhood of Abasan.
Not even that slowed the violence. On 23 November, near the West Bank
village of Tubas, Israeli gunships poured over 10 air-to-ground
Hellfire
missiles on to a car carrying Hamas military leader Mahmoud Abu
Hannoud,
35. Abu Hannoud, and two Hamas activists riding with him, Ayman
Hashayka
and his brother Ma'amun Hashayka, were instantly killed, their bodies
burnt to soot.
"There were no bodies, only scattered pieces of incinerated human
flesh,"
said a Red Crescent paramedic, who arrived at the scene soon
afterwards.
"I can't describe it, I've never seen a thing like this in my life."
Israeli Defence Minister Binyamin Ben Eleazer, termed this barbarity a
"great success."
Abu Hannoud was at the head of Israel's wanted list for planning and
conducting resistance attacks and assassinating scores of Israeli
occupation soldiers and illegal settlers. Ben Eleazer described Abu
Hannoud as a "most dangerous terrorist."
"We are proud of him, he is not dead, he is alive and well with the
prophets, saints and martyrs," said Abu Hannoud's uncle. He added, "His
hour was due. Almighty God chose him to be with Him on a blessed day
(Friday) and in a blessed month (Ramadan). We all wish to become
martyrs
like him." As he spoke, a stream of people came knocking. They were
there
to congratulate the family, not to offer condolences.
Hamas eulogised Abu Hannoud as a "fighter for God, justice and the
freedom
of Palestine." Its statement said, "Another hero of Islam and Palestine
has dismounted. He fought the evil enemy relentlessly until the last
moment. His memory will live in all of us. He is not dead, he is a
martyr.
Martyrs do not die."
The Israeli occupation army had tried several times to assassinate Abu
Hannoud. Their latest effort happened nearly a year ago when Israeli
F-16
fighters bombed a Nablus prison where Abu Hannoud was detained by the
Palestinian Authority.
That illegal raid slew 14 Palestinian policemen and prison guards, but
Abu
Hannoud escaped unharmed.
Two years ago, hundreds of Israeli troops, backed by helicopters,
raided
Abu Hannoud's village, Asira Al- Shamaliya, near Nablus, in an attempt
to
assassinate the Hamas leader. That time again, he escaped, killing
three
Israeli soldiers on the way.
Hamas has vowed to avenge Abu Hannoud's death. "We assure our people
that
his and other martyrs' blood will be avenged very soon," they said in a
statement.
On Sunday, 25 November, Hamas guerrillas in Gaza fired a locally-made
Kassam-1 rocket at the settlement of Kfar Dorom in central Gaza. The
missile killed an Israeli soldier and wounded two others.
That was the first time the primitive and inaccurate rocket has caused
an
Israeli fatality.
The death of the soldier infuriated Israeli Prime Minister Ariel
Sharon.
On the night of the following Friday and early Saturday morning,
Israeli
helicopters again raided civilian and police targets in the Gaza Strip.
The gunships destroyed a police station in Gaza City and an office
building in Khan Younis. This time, there were no serious injuries; the
Palestinian Authority (PA) had vacated the buildings before the raids.
Following these provocations, the PA accused the Israeli government of
deliberately escalating violence to scuttle the diplomatic mission of
two
American envoys, Anthony Zinni and William Burns, who arrived in Israel
last Tuesday, in a new and promising effort to consolidate the supposed
cease-fire and revive the moribund peace process.
As Sharon has barred Foreign Minister Shimon Peres from holding the
talks
with Zinni and Burns, replacing him with two of his own hand-picked,
right-wing advisers, it seems the Israeli prime minister is utterly
uninterested in seeing the latest effort succeed. But then again, peace
was never his way.
http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/6443/Imassacre/blowing.html
Israel Uses 'Chemical'
Ammo Against
Palestinians - Doctor
By Samer Khuwayera
IOL Correspondent
6-4-4
NABLUS (IslamOnline.net) - Israeli occupation forces are using a brand new chemically contaminated ammunitions to finish off Palestinian resistance fighters, a Palestinian doctor unveiled.
"The Israeli forces use chemical-contaminated ammo, which makes the skin of the victim fall once touched," Dr. Mohamed El-Hashim, of the Health Department in the West Bank town of Qalqiliya, told IslamOnline.net.
The Palestinian doctor cited Israeli-killed Mazen Yassin was the first case in point.
The 45-year-old leader of the Hamas military wing in Qalqiliya was shot by Israeli occupation forces while walking down one of the city's streets on May 20.
The Israeli soldiers fired one bullet at him, left him bleeding in the street and prevented civilians and ambulances from approaching him.
Two hours later, after using a Palestinian civilian to make sure he breathed his last, the Israeli soldiers removed the body, which was later handed to the International Committee of the Red Cross.
"A white-colored substance appeared on the lips of the deceased, an unprecedented thing I've never seen before," said Al-Hashim, who examined the body.
He said that Yassin was shot in the pelvis, an injury which he ruled could not lead to his death, noting that he did not even loose much blood.
"He could not die simply because of being hit in the pelvis, a bony funnel-shaped cavity which causes no intensive bleeding," averred the doctor.
"I have been examining dead bodies since 1987, and I have never seen this before. The skin was falling out upon touching any part of the body."
"The odds is that he was hit by a bullet contaminated with a chemical material that gradually killed him or that he was injected by other poisonous substance the Israelis used for the first time." said Al-Hashim.
One Bullet
Eyewitnesses said Yassin fell on the ground upon being shot one bullet by the Israeli occupation soldiers, who denied access to him for full two hours.
"He was crying of pain. The soldiers forced me to approach and probe the body [for fear he was carrying explosives]," Saed Abdel-Hafez told IOL.
"He was injured in the pelvis. I told them he was dead. The soldiers then watched me making sure the body is not strapped with explosives."
Abdel-Hafiz said the soldiers then took the body on an army ambulance to the outside of the city.
New Methods
Palestinians complain that Israeli forces even use police dogs or sharp tools to mutilate bodies of Palestinians.
On January 1, 2003, brothers Mohamed and Tarek Dawas, 14 and 15 respectively, were killed while trying to storm into Dugit settlement in northern Gaza Strip.
Medical sources said the bodies were riddled with knife cuts, and one brain was dashed out when the bodies were retrieved.
Israel has come under heavy fire for using internationally-prohibited weapons to kill Palestinians, and for using Palestinians to test drugs and poisonous medicines produced by its companies.
The Palestinian Information Center said in April that Israel used internationally-banned arms to crush the Palestinian Intifada, adding the "army resorts to deadly force to disperse the protestors with means only used in a showdown with other armies".
On November 19, an Arab Israeli lawmaker accused the Israeli occupation forces of using a "banned weapon" in a deadly raid in the Gaza Strip, which killed 12 people and wounded 70 others.
Opposition MP Ahmad Al-Tibi said the army had used "secret banned weapon " in the raid and accused it of employing military censorship to stop the publication of details related to the issue.
Citing the appearance of strange infections among Palestinians, a Palestinian security member said in April that Israel may have used chemical weapons against the Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza Strip.
http://rense.com/general53/chem.htm
Extremists on both sides are the problem, though I consider Israel far worse of a terrorist state than Palestine. Israel should've never existed in the first place, but now that it does we should hold them accountable for the UN violations they've broken. War in Iraq? Israel has broken far more than Iraq would ever have done.
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Israel's Approved Ethnic Cleansing
both sides are fucked while peace-loving innocent people are caught in the crossfire. fuck the zionists and fuck the militants.
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bi0 said:
fuck the zionists and fuck the militants.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
#3003265 - 08/14/04 01:28 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I find it interesting you fail to comment on the footage from the film of children playing in the rubble of their bulldozed homes, of young children mourning the loss of cousins who have been shot by Israelis etc etc. Your biased views are indicative of a very weak mind.
As always the Israelis kill far more Palestinians than the Palestinians kill Israeli's.
Its a bit like the war on terror, where most of the terror is caused by those supposedly opposed to it. How ironic.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ravus]
#3003272 - 08/14/04 01:30 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Under what possible moral compass is blowing up schoolchildren justified?
None. So why do you support the Israelis you brain dead moron?
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: GazzBut]
#3003444 - 08/14/04 02:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Under what possible moral compass is blowing up schoolchildren justified?
None. So why do you support the Israelis you brain dead moron?
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Seeing as how you're responding to me, if you read my post you'll note that I don't support the Israelis in the slightest...
Perhaps you confused me for Divided_Sky
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
#3003566 - 08/14/04 03:59 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why do you post threads and then run away.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
#3003584 - 08/14/04 04:06 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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I just watched a BBC documentary called 'Death in Gaza'. Now the BBC is pretty consistantly biased against Israel, however the stuff they showed about the Palestinian culture was shocking. Children learning how to make grenades and talking about how they want to be martyrs. That is one fucked up culture.
It's not a fucked up culture. It's a culture responding to the fucked up culture of Zionism.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Zahid]
#3003648 - 08/14/04 04:48 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yeah 
We should just nuke them all and let their God(s) decide.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ravus]
#3003793 - 08/14/04 08:25 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Sorry Ravus, I was resonding to Divided sky..dunno how that happened!
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
#3006050 - 08/15/04 05:01 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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A Muslim woman putting bombs on a child:
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
#3006053 - 08/15/04 05:02 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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source?
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: vampirism]
#3006086 - 08/15/04 05:16 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
#3006193 - 08/15/04 05:47 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Lets just finish this topic with this: Most of the conflicts right now involve Muslims vs. everyone else. hint hint
I don't want to look like a racist but what the fuck.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: GazzBut]
#3006283 - 08/15/04 06:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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None. So why do you support the Israelis you brain dead moron?
The Israelies don't intentionally target civilians. When they attack a camp they do so with the intention of removing viable terrorist targets. What is the intention of the Arabs when they blow up a school bus? A discotechque? Both sides are guilty of some immoral infractions, but don't fall into the typical anti-West trap of thinking that whomever "we" have a conflict with is automatically right and a victim of "us". Most Israelies, and most Palestineans, want their to be peace. It's somewhat hard to achieve that goal when busses keep getting blown up, or when Arab ladies are blowing off their suicide belts in crowded marketplaces.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: retread]
#3006480 - 08/15/04 07:31 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Maybe if kids were trained to be killers than they wouldn't be picked off by Israeli soldiers while walking home.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: downforpot]
#3006518 - 08/15/04 07:39 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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If they're trained to be killers they are legitimate targets. Bye, bye babies. Sorry mom, should've kept them home.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: zappaisgod]
#3006531 - 08/15/04 07:42 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, considering that all Israelis(with a few exceptions) are required to do military service, I guess that makes them legitimate targets as well.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: silversoul7]
#3006539 - 08/15/04 07:43 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The soldiers are
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: zappaisgod]
#3006545 - 08/15/04 07:44 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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So then pretty much every Israeli from about age 18-30 is a legitimate target.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: zappaisgod]
#3006548 - 08/15/04 07:45 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Yes, but all able Israelis are either past, present or future parts of the military if all of them are required to do military service. So why should the Palestinians care? The Israelis they kill today were either going to fuck them up later or have fucked them up, except for immigrants and such, so why bother?
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ravus]
#3006575 - 08/15/04 07:53 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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One word. Uniforms
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: zappaisgod]
#3006592 - 08/15/04 07:57 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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So the clothes someone wears decide whether or not someone's a legitimate target? Guess that's bad news for us with our war on terror.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: silversoul7]
#3006689 - 08/15/04 08:22 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, considering that all Israelis(with a few exceptions) are required to do military service, I guess that makes them legitimate targets as well.
This is the exact argument that Hamas and Hizbolah use, and wouldn't you know it, OSAMA BIN LADEN says the same things about American civilians: by being taxpayers we support the military industrial complex and therefore deserve to die.
If we have a draft, does that mean any American between the ages 18 and 32 is also a legitimate target?
You complain about innocent people getting killed in Iraq accidentily, and yet support a logic that preaches deliberate murder of civilians. 
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: downforpot]
#3006868 - 08/15/04 09:17 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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downforpot said:
Maybe if kids were trained to be killers than they wouldn't be picked off by Israeli soldiers while walking home.
Hey, if kids are throwing rocks at tanks then maybe a bullet to their heads isn't their biggest problem.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
#3006879 - 08/15/04 09:21 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Well, considering that all Israelis(with a few exceptions) are required to do military service, I guess that makes them legitimate targets as well.
This is the exact argument that Hamas and Hizbolah use, and wouldn't you know it, OSAMA BIN LADEN says the same things about American civilians: by being taxpayers we support the military industrial complex and therefore deserve to die.
If we have a draft, does that mean any American between the ages 18 and 32 is also a legitimate target?
You complain about innocent people getting killed in Iraq accidentily, and yet support a logic that preaches deliberate murder of civilians.
Slow down there buddy, and read the post I was responding to.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: silversoul7]
#3006887 - 08/15/04 09:24 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slow down there buddy, and read the post I was responding to.
Well, read the post Zappa was responding to.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: silversoul7]
#3007244 - 08/15/04 10:30 PM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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Slow down there buddy, and read the post I was responding to.
Ok, fine, but still by the rules of engagement a Palestinian teenager with an AK-47 pointed at you is a combatant, and an off duty, out of uniform Israeli soldier is not. It is not lawful in the rules of warfare to deliberately kill non-combatants.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Ed1]
#3007685 - 08/16/04 12:24 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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(To All)
You guys couldn't be that dense. Those aren't bombs being strapped to that kid, that is a mock-suicide bomb outfit, and the family was probably just about to head out for a public protest against Israeli terrorism. palestinians wear fake bomb vests all the time for protesting.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Zahid]
#3007820 - 08/16/04 01:01 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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(To All)
You guys couldn't be that dense. Those aren't bombs being strapped to that kid, that is a mock-suicide bomb outfit, and the family was probably just about to head out for a public protest against Israeli terrorism. palestinians wear fake bomb vests all the time for protesting.
And Ed1, Allah loves you.
If this is true, it is the craziest damn thing I've ever heard of.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: retread]
#3007917 - 08/16/04 01:34 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Israelies don't intentionally target civilians.
Please read the 3-part article that I posted the url to - thanks.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: d33p]
#3008075 - 08/16/04 02:50 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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d33p said:
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Zahid said:
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You guys couldn't be that dense. Those aren't bombs being strapped to that kid, that is a mock-suicide bomb outfit, and the family was probably just about to head out for a public protest against Israeli terrorism. palestinians wear fake bomb vests all the time for protesting.
And Ed1, Allah loves you.
If this is true, it is the craziest damn thing I've ever heard of.
Palestinian parents tell their children that the jews should be driven from Israel, Israeli parents tell their children that the Arabs must be expelled along the way of a 'greater Israel'. While both sides are wrong in the methods they use, it's not a case of 'they equally started the conflict' - Zionists invaded Palestine, end of story.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: retread]
#3008574 - 08/16/04 10:47 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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The Israelies don't intentionally target civilians
If a criminal is hiding in a school and the authorities blow up that school to get said criminal and kill school children in the process is it ok because they werent intentinally targeting the children?
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don't fall into the typical anti-West trap of thinking that whomever "we" have a conflict with is automatically right and a victim of "us".
As I already said I think the extremists on both sides of the equation are to blame. Having said that I dont think the Israelis have any legal right to much of the land that they occupy.
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It's somewhat hard to achieve that goal when busses keep getting blown up, or when Arab ladies are blowing off their suicide belts in crowded marketplaces.
Very true but dont forget the Israelis consistently kill more Palestinians than the Palestinians kill Israelis. Therefore by your own logic they are a bigger obstacle to peace than the Palestinians.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Divided_Sky]
#3008586 - 08/16/04 10:50 AM (19 years, 3 months ago) |
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You complain about innocent people getting killed in Iraq accidentily, and yet support a logic that preaches deliberate murder of civilians.
And you only complain about Palestinians killing innocent Israelis whilst ignoring the THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS more innocent civillians killed by the coalition of the misled and the Israelis.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: GazzBut]
#3343391 - 11/10/04 07:13 PM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Since the left wing crazies keep repeating the same lies I decided to bring this up again to show part of the truth.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: downforpot]
#3343448 - 11/10/04 07:31 PM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Lets just finish this topic with this: Most of the conflicts right now involve Muslims vs. everyone else. hint hint
I don't want to look like a racist but what the fuck.
BINGO. You hit the nail on the head and no one is going to respond to you because that one sentance makes more sense than page after page of useless debate. To suggest that all non-muslims somehow have it in for muslims for no reason is completely asinine and ignorant of what is currently going on. The current world mentality with regards to the muslim extremist problem is truely fucked and unprecidented in modern humanity.
If you go through the history of christianity atrocities and other human atrocities, you can always find that they were overwhelmingly condemned and that is what eventually put a stop to them. Here, it seems like the islamic extremists have won the psychological battle of convincing the world that intentional murder of innocent people is acceptable.
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Re: Palestinian textbooks brainwash children to kill [Re: Catalysis]
#3343702 - 11/10/04 08:40 PM (19 years, 21 days ago) |
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Anyone else see a cycle here:
Accusation Response Accusation Response Accusation Response Accusation Response kaboom!
ET CETERA.
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