Asura said:

Nice trays, faht.

I am spawning my first trays in over a year today. Moving out of state really set me back.

I am going to be figuring out the ziplocks because I just don't have the space for a tent.

I am at 7000 ft and relative humidity here is super low, like 25%. It's like learning from scratch.

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MojaveMyc said:

You hit the nail on the head. I’m mainly looking at fruit size and canopy density. These trays side & bottom pinned like hell as well.

Here are a couple of ideal (imo) trays. I ran these pan “jambo” (also probs a cyan) on half the dose of CV+ and a mix of canary seed & rye. Same conditions, much bigger fruits.

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tree frog said:

MojaveMyc said:

You hit the nail on the head. I’m mainly looking at fruit size and canopy density. These trays side & bottom pinned like hell as well.

Here are a couple of ideal (imo) trays. I ran these pan “jambo” (also probs a cyan) on half the dose of CV+ and a mix of canary seed & rye. Same conditions, much bigger fruits.

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I will probably just text you but are you halfing both or just the nkp?

Also, I've done a couple of write ups on combos but haven't posted one here.  I'm fairly sure it's a phenotype rather than a separate species.  The microscopic differences aren't much.  They interbreed easily.  And the ITS is all showing cyans (I've had this conversation with Mojave and it's probably what he is alluding to in his post).

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Asura said:

I have noticed that whether the fruits are big or small, the final dry weight
is usually the same. 28g/tray on the nose almost every time.

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fahtster said:

I did notice that my fruits were smaller when I tried straight cv+ and doubled the original recipe of npk (because I omitted the worm castings)

But then again these are 1:2.5 with Mojave’s original recipe with 12.5% wc’s..


It is 2nd flush tho so some nutes have been depleted.  I Personally think genetics play a role.  I’ve also halved my ratio to two trays and saw less pinning but not necessarily larger fruits than normal.  I think over watering can stunt fruits just like with cubes etc.  just my .02. Mojave’s got a good eye tho

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tree frog said:

MojaveMyc said:

You hit the nail on the head. I’m mainly looking at fruit size and canopy density. These trays side & bottom pinned like hell as well.

Here are a couple of ideal (imo) trays. I ran these pan “jambo” (also probs a cyan) on half the dose of CV+ and a mix of canary seed & rye. Same conditions, much bigger fruits.

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I will probably just text you but are you halfing both or just the nkp?

Also, I've done a couple of write ups on combos but haven't posted one here.  I'm fairly sure it's a phenotype rather than a separate species.  The microscopic differences aren't much.  They interbreed easily.  And the ITS is all showing cyans (I've had this conversation with Mojave and it's probably what he is alluding to in his post).

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Just the NPK. Seems like the most impactful dial to turn. I’ll fuck with the micronutes once I’m settled on the NPK. And yeah my “probs a cyan” is informed by my convos with you plus both Jambo and Brooksville fka Sandoz are listed as likely cyans on sporeworks now.

tree frog said:

I think they produce more but smaller mushrooms, which isn't fun to harvest.  And sometimes more aborts.  Though a lot of the aborts will be second flush fruits if they're not overwatered and the colony is healthy.  And assuming they don't contaminate, I think they flush longer.



I think I would have enjoyed harvesting this more if I they produced a third of the mushrooms and they were a third larger.

But I don't know that switching from Milo to rye would do it 🤷‍♀️  I think some genetics are smaller overall too.

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And this is it in a nutshell. I have several autoimmune diseases so I get tired very easily 😆 I would like my harvests to be as easy as possible. I’d rather snip 100 chunky fruits than several hundred bean sprouts. And who doesn’t want bigger prints?

Asura said:

I have noticed that whether the fruits are big or small, the final dry weight
is usually the same. 28g/tray on the nose almost every time.

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This as well. Same yield, varied amounts of effort required to harvest. Why not optimize for bigguns

Re: grain, I didn’t notice much of a difference switching between the standard grains. Nothing that made me tweak my CV+ at least. My nitpicks are mostly about colonization speed & how easy my eye can read mycelium on a given grain. However I am noticing a difference with canary seed & will certainly need to adjust.