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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: 99.99]
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Yes I think these are the PE6. They can look like this.


Mine are very similar.




So my other two bags must be the "NSS".

Edited by hiredgoons (07/30/26 12:48 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: hiredgoons]
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My first try with ochras after 1 year with Golden Teachers..

S2B after 10 days - insane colonization! Temp: from 22 to 26Celsius.

To frutification with GT I pass the cakes to my big water tub - I use the water tub tek with very nice results with GTs.

What special cautions I need with this now?

Edited by mobyhat (07/31/26 10:24 AM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: mobyhat]
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mobyhat said:
What special cautions I need with this now?


None IMO. Lookin strong. If water tub gave good conditions for GT, ochra should be happpy.


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: SkanskKorv]
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Take a look at what I told Joetherapist about APE revert Here

I'm pretty certain Lyle is correct about the fact that it's a cube and if it's a PE variety it probably reverted which isn't extremely uncommon. The colour is way off, Ochras aren't that brown all over the caps. These are almost definitely cubes, I'd be very surprised if they turn out to be another species.

Something worth nothing though. Decurrent gills are not a unique trait of Ochras which is something I realized the other day after Bamboozling myself with some Cubensis x7x Here. I thought I mixed the plates or jars up but apparently x7x also has deccurent gills so I wouldn't trust the gills only because cubes can also have deccurent gills. Nevertheless your mushrooms are most likely cubes, they do not resemble Ochras much at all imo.


This is good to know. First time ever hearing about cubes also having subdecurrent gills. That is 99% of what I was going off, since none of the cubes I have had them. Iโ€™m still learning. I do have some Ochra starting to sore knots in an ez dial. Canโ€™t wait to see how they turn out!


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: JoeTherapist] * 1
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Ochras in monotube; day 13 after S2B; its time to frutification? They need more fae tan cubes right? Beter open the lid a litle?

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: mobyhat]
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Thoughts on my jar?

The spider web like growth. Someone says it looks like itโ€™s fighting something?




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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Humblefarmer]
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I'm seeing pink in there, is that consistent or a lighting issue.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: MushLuvR77]
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MushLuvR77 said:
I'm seeing pink in there, is that consistent or a lighting issue.


Iโ€™m 99.999% sure thatโ€™s a reflection from something red nearby, you can see in the bottom right corner.

Jars are just white, no obvious discolouration

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: Humblefarmer]
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The third pic does show something red in the bottom right corner, probably a reflection or flash of the camera, but as far as I can tell looks fine to me. Ochra's are definitely ice cream sort of puffy surface.

 


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: MushLuvR77] * 1
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Can i get confirmation these are ochras?



thanks

Edited by R4cMan (08/04/26 01:50 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: R4cMan] * 1
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If I was guessing from some pictures I would say yes.

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: R4cMan] * 1
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R4cMan said:
Can i get confirmation these are ochras?



thanks


You had me at polyfil, but yes, those are Ochras no doubt, I have a few cycles with tubs and bags, different variations of course, but Ochra nonetheless.  Similar to growing cubes, maybe a touch more air, but not to finnicky in my research. 

Edited by MushLuvR77 (08/04/26 06:36 PM)

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Id say ochras from overlay alone :coolcat:


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: bloodssonnew]
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bloodssonnew said:
Id say ochras from overlay alone :coolcat:


Absolutely, it will throw you for a loop thinking it won't produce (looking like it does), but that's the way it is and will do fine (fills in over time).

Then it finishes up and surprises you, like WoW do your thing then, sorry to be so judgy.  :laugh:     

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: MushLuvR77]
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Thank you. This grow was from 2 years ago, back then i dont remember reading they need more fae. Just wanted to be sure before i start them again, this time no polyfil :grin:

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: bloodssonnew]
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bloodssonnew said:
Id say ochras from overlay alone :coolcat:


i had similar overlay from cubes once, probably from contaminated spawn, still got 1 flush :cool:

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: R4cMan]
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R4cman I wouldn't be surprised if an culture of ochras where mislabeled as cubes stuff like that happens all the time ๐Ÿ˜Ž


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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: JoeTherapist] * 1
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JoeTherapist said:
after Bamboozling myself with some Cubensis x7x Here. I thought I mixed the plates or jars up but apparently x7x also has deccurent gills


You mean x7x+, not x7x. No one has done a giveaway of x7x here in over a decade.

I've covered this again and again.....to the point that:

We've voted to change the name of x7x+ to Bukkake Sunrise so there's no confusion in the future.

If you want to use that, it will help reduce your bamboozeliment, and that of others.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29635545#29635545

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: nektar61] * 1
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nektar61 said:
JoeTherapist said:
after Bamboozling myself with some Cubensis x7x Here. I thought I mixed the plates or jars up but apparently x7x also has deccurent gills


You mean x7x+, not x7x. No one has done a giveaway of x7x here in over a decade.

I've covered this again and again.....to the point that:

We've voted to change the name of x7x+ to Bukkake Sunrise so there's no confusion in the future.

If you want to use that, it will help reduce your bamboozeliment, and that of others.
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/29635545#29635545

Thank you


Actually this wasn't a confusion but a mistake where I missed the +. I'm the one who wrote the post Joe was replying to and you already corrected me about this in the POTD thread Here:awesome: so yeah... My bad once again lol.

The name wasn't a part of the Bamboozling this time it was the Ochra-like appearance of the first flush, especially the gills so the initial speculation wasn't about whether it's x7x/x7x+ or not but I do support a name change since it's incredibly easy to miss the little +. It deserves a better name than bukkake sunrise though:lol:

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Re: The official Psilocybe natalensis/ ochraceocentrata thread. [Re: bloodssonnew] * 1
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bloodssonnew said:
R4cman I wouldn't be surprised if an culture of ochras where mislabeled as cubes stuff like that happens all the time ๐Ÿ˜Ž


it was 10+ years ago so i doubt it

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