alaskappalachian said:

Finally got a box of popcorntapateo or whatever they're called going

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Popocatepetl.

Lithop said:

LewDoja said:

Has anyone noted alkaloid % with different harvest (day/night) like the psychotria plant

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That's a great question. Do you think it's possible for a fruit to have fluctuating alkaloid amounts?

If we imagine it true for a moment, where do they (alks) "go"? Lent to other fruits, passed along along along the decentralised chain before being funneled back into fruits & stabilising at a peak during certain times (as you said of psychotria?)
Simply degrade/oxidise as we see in blueing reaction- perhaps by a rowdy animal sniffing & knocking the fruit- before some metabolic function leads a re upping alkaloid levels for the evening/morning peak?
If so, to what end?
To reach their predetermined, genetic peak psilocybin level for example? (which for hobbyist purpose, I assume is a common goal aside from healthy fruits. So would be useful in determining clone selection, for one idea. Written into the culture itsself.)

All of that could give some mild suggestion- or just a renewed/refreshd imaginative framework- about why psilocybin and related compounds are even produced but there seem to be a million HOWs we have to dig right into, to even suggest a WHY. Love it.
I get to thinking about night blooming plants and that thought in conjunction with the analogy in that gravitropism article makes me imagine some tidal style lunar interaction with some fungal function.
Moonlight equilibrium!
I digress.

@Foreighn2891:
Thank you for the share.

When they say in the text:
(talking about carbon and methane emissions from the metabolic activities)

Quote:

"These gas emissions, which in particular contribute to greenhouse gas‐induced climate change and CO2, may also influence physiological disorders in mushrooms "

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Do you think a laying over of your recent Texolo (a physiological disorder perhaps), is a response to enviromental conditions BEYOND simply attraction to light?

Afterall, you noted different gas conditions which suggested sleeping/waking cycles, if say the "sleeping cycle" or designated night is when there is high CO (perhaps because the mushroom is unable to enact some activity to regulate it itsself while "asleep" haha) maybe then, altering your grow paramaters in order to expel the carbon emissions that may be pooling- on the fruits behalf- through the night, would stop them relying on phototropic behaviour for their orientation.
Instead, being able to simply keep going with their original direction from pin stage. Up... Suggesting use of one "style" as a failsafe for the journey to maturation, rather than it being a predetermined multistaged situation (IE: initial reliance on light for direction before "maturing" into relying on internal triggering for direction.)

And I'm not suggesting it (sleep/wake cycle) is related directly to light and that it's that interaction that has bearing on the CO emission (presumably high levels of metabolic activity going on, including secondary IE alkaloid production) rather that it's perhaps related to some cyclical thing in the mushroom sort of reflecting the peaks Lew pointed at in the likes of P.Viridis- most akin to circadian rhythm in my imagination here.
Something to think about I suppose.
I hope that reads easy enough.

The rest of that paper had some interesting stuff, although a large amount was lost on me.

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after couple days with light on top makes them aiming upward, they are light sensitive

Lithop said:

Well, the idea proposed was always that they WERE light sensitive- until such a time (maturation perhaps) that they switch to some other primary means of orientation.

So the question persists.

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Lithop said:

Hmm, I'm not sure on that one. The idea was just inspired by the way semps can end up ignoring the light direction in favour of straightening up IME.
Not to do with light vs no light on their overall development.


On the zap fruits subject, I always loved the floccose stem and think it's cool to see them laden with water drops in your pics.

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🙏🏻🤝 thanks, them reminds me tigers or striped bass fish. wery sensitive to drying out caps and still water in the tray. The amount of water on picture shows how much of water passed true cake during 3 weeks from begging of fruiting .

alaskappalachian said:

@Captaintrips - damn man.  That's a hell of a nice grow

Finally got a box of popcorntapateo or whatever they're called going but dropped the box last month and exploded half the casing layer on the floor lol.  Didn't even bother re-covering it.  Left it all fugly.  Only downside is they're coming in uneven AF.  Some decent clusters though.  Shocked they've survived my freezing cold kitchen sitting next to an old propane stove turned on for heat half the time.  Grown on spruce and birch sawdust only.

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wavyedge said:

Some variability in the color of zaps. Also some sect zap just starting out there in the last one, haven't wanted to move beyond pinning.

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wavyedge said:

I cut holes in the bags for sure, otherwise they drown. Case the top.

Things are coming along.






Sect zap nsw finally pushing up and not aborting

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