KevinDontWave said:

GenesisCorrupted said:

I mean, how ridiculous is it that the person in charge isn’t getting blamed for this.” No it’s the Democrats fault.”

It’s almost beyond delusional. It’s fanatical.

(the driver of the vehicle says that he wants to kill everyone in the car and then purposefully crashed the car.)
“ geez that car almost killed us. Fuck that car company. Let’s blame them for everything.”

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So you don't think that they're in any way responsible for losing? In your opinion they ran the best candidate and campaign they could have and simply lost to a better opponent?

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dinosaurs said:

KevinDontWave said:

GenesisCorrupted said:

I mean, how ridiculous is it that the person in charge isn’t getting blamed for this.” No it’s the Democrats fault.”

It’s almost beyond delusional. It’s fanatical.

(the driver of the vehicle says that he wants to kill everyone in the car and then purposefully crashed the car.)
“ geez that car almost killed us. Fuck that car company. Let’s blame them for everything.”

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So you don't think that they're in any way responsible for losing? In your opinion they ran the best candidate and campaign they could have and simply lost to a better opponent?

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do you think he legitimately won?

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I am not the Democratic Party. Stop acting like I am so you can throw all of your anger you have for them at me.

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To anyone in this thread that did not vote democratic. You voted for what is happening right now, and you deserve the responsibility of it.

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KevinDontWave said:

If he illegitimately won the Democrats did nothing to stop it and have done nothing to make it right.

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dinosaurs said:

KevinDontWave said:

If he illegitimately won the Democrats did nothing to stop it and have done nothing to make it right.

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what do you think democrats should have done to stop it?  do you not recognize that successfully cheating your way to the executive is a game-over move in a democracy?

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mushboy said:

not enable the right would be nice.

the dems act like they are going to win some kind of contest by staying in this dysfunctional relationship.

the right hates the left and think democrats are the devil. you are not going to have a nice dinner with these people.

breaking something would also help. like anything? nope lets run a soccer mom and an old lady against 1000s of years of old guard male hierarchy.

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mushboy said:

lol ok so what would you do?

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dinosaurs said:

KevinDontWave said:

If he illegitimately won the Democrats did nothing to stop it and have done nothing to make it right.

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what do you think democrats should have done to stop it?  do you not recognize that successfully cheating your way to the executive is a game-over move in a democracy?

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dinosaurs said:

mushboy said:

lol ok so what would you do?

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go back in time to before we had this waste-of-time exchange.

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KevinDontWave said:

dinosaurs said:

KevinDontWave said:

If he illegitimately won the Democrats did nothing to stop it and have done nothing to make it right.

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what do you think democrats should have done to stop it?  do you not recognize that successfully cheating your way to the executive is a game-over move in a democracy?

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The damage is done but they could have made better moves leading up to the election.

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The Ecstatic said:

dinosaurs said:

this kind of mindless cynicism and apathy is exactly how trump and company came to power.  the edge-lord "both sides" shit is so brain-dead. 

I often think about the fact that trump has gained power twice off less than 1/3 of the available voters in the USA.  then I think about a talk from an old german who recounted that for hitler to gain power took just 1/3 of germans, while 1/3 opposed him vehemently and 1/3 sat around complacent and apathetic.

in the face of a fascist regime, picking no side is picking the wrong side.

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Ok but you understand that in the Germany scenario, it’s the SPD and the liberals that were the apathetic bunch?

The 1/3rd that opposed fascism vehemently were the socialists and communists, and the liberals had their leaders killed. Then, with the left kneecapped to protect capital, Hitler’s rise continued unabated by (and often times with the assistance of) the other 1/3rd.

https://jacobin.com/2020/01/rosa-luxemburg-murder-waldemar-pabst-germany

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ballsalsa said:

I think he means that they should have done something other than performative opposition that is strictly symbolic in nature and does little or nothing to actually oppose the fascist agenda. 

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