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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: stroopwafelman]
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stroopwafelman said:
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Here's an LME agar plate that had water agar transfer growing out on it for about 5 days now. Photos made from different angles with and without flash.
The plates are glass 80mm no-pours so there's some visible smudging on the inside of the lid.



Any comments? Does it look ok so far?



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: RoscoeReturns]
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Any reason why I can't seem to get any rhizomorphic growth? I got Ecuadorian Cube spores, so nothing particularly exotic. I think so far out of about 14-15 BRF jars and lots of plates (admittedly those were much less "successful" until I started doing water agar first) only like 1-2 BRF jars had some rhizo growth among clouds of tomentose mycelia.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: stroopwafelman]
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I germ all my spore on brf and only seen a couple show any rhizo growth so far. I’ve seen people say lowering nutes in your plates can encourage rhizo growth but it never did for me it just made my growth weak and slow. Any cube culture can switch back and forth between rhizo and tom and back again, I wouldn’t worry about it too much personally.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: stroopwafelman] * 2
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stroopwafelman said:
Any reason why I can't seem to get any rhizomorphic growth? I got Ecuadorian Cube spores, so nothing particularly exotic. I think so far out of about 14-15 BRF jars and lots of plates (admittedly those were much less "successful" until I started doing water agar first) only like 1-2 BRF jars had some rhizo growth among clouds of tomentose mycelia.


Don't get hung up on rhizo growth. It's not an indication of something that will be better than tomentose. It's far more important to just have clean cultures. It's possible for a tomentose plate to go rhizo then go back to tomentose. All my cultures are tomentose and they all preform great when I do things right.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: aPurpleCray0n] * 1
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I’ve seen people say lowering nutes in your plates can encourage rhizo growth but it never did for me it just made my growth weak and slow.



Yup, exactly the same thing for me. Did like 15 water agar plates with pieces of a BRF puck and pins from the same puck (pinned invitro) none produced any rhizomorphic growth, only a very thin layer of fluff.

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Don't get hung up on rhizo growth. It's not an indication of something that will be better than tomentose. It's far more important to just have clean cultures. It's possible for a tomentose plate to go rhizo then go back to tomentose.



Ok, will work with the stuff I got, chasing rhizo growth didn't seem to yield any results anyway.

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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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I inoculated some plates today by putting one (1) drop of spore solution on the agar and spreading it around with the loop.

But several hours later I was looking at the plates, and I noticed that rather than being absorbed into the agar, the water is still sitting on the surface of the agar and rolls around if I tilt it.

The agar I prepared contained 8g agar-agar and 8g light malt extract dissolved in 400mL water.

Is this a problem, and how do I prevent this?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 1
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Arctic_Fox said:
I inoculated some plates today by putting one (1) drop of spore solution on the agar and spreading it around with the loop.

But several hours later I was looking at the plates, and I noticed that rather than being absorbed into the agar, the water is still sitting on the surface of the agar and rolls around if I tilt it.

The agar I prepared contained 8g agar-agar and 8g light malt extract dissolved in 400mL water.

Is this a problem, and how do I prevent this?


Totally normal, carry on.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Totally normal, carry on.


Thanks. The reason I thought it was an issue was the common admonition against allowing loose water to roll around inside the dish, such as by carelessly squirting spore solution from a syringe, or having too much condensation. The usual reasoning is that the loose water will spread contaminants further.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 1
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Yeah don't worry about that. Condensation is just bad for visibility. It can help spread contam if you introduce the contam, especially bacteria they get spread around really nice by water. But if your sterile technique is good then no worries, the condensation is gonna be as sterile as the rest of your plates.

You did use a spore syringe though so contam is almost inevitable but you should still get plenty of myc to transfer away from the contam


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Yeah don't worry about that. Condensation is just bad for visibility. It can help spread contam if you introduce the contam, especially bacteria they get spread around really nice by water. But if your sterile technique is good then no worries, the condensation is gonna be as sterile as the rest of your plates.


Yeah, well, we can hope the plates are sterile :grin:. But the edge of the dish can be a dangerous place.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Camera93] * 1
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Camera93 said:
mushboy said:
:rofl: nice avatar dude


i keep thinking its C10 when i just glance at it lol


I got a new one now 😁


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: c10h12n2o]
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Well the mold plate grew out a bit after 2 weeks, seems to be a bit less picky than the cubes, still seems a little tame for 2 weeks but it's growth

Got my new agar agar in the mail today, will be making up new plates tomorrow


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tri] * 1
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I would like some input on these plates. Where should I transfer from? There’s one natalensis, which is the spore plate. 3 semperviva, transferred once.

Also I have 4 bags of purchased sterilized rye. I was thinking I’d do 2 semperviva and 2 natalensis. Can I do a Josex poke to nocc them up? Or do I need to make sslc first? They have injection ports, so to use an agar wedge, I’d have to cut them open so if possible I’d like to avoid that.



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Tormato]
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I searched this thread but I couldn't find anything. How long does it usually take after inoculation of agar with spores to see growth / germination?


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox] * 1
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Arctic_Fox said:
I searched this thread but I couldn't find anything. How long does it usually take after inoculation of agar with spores to see growth / germination?


Anywhere between 4 days and 4 weeks


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Arctic_Fox said:
I searched this thread but I couldn't find anything. How long does it usually take after inoculation of agar with spores to see growth / germination?


My last few germ plates from spore syringes took 3-4 days until visible colonization, about a week for visible mycelium and 3~ weeks for plate coverage


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: MicroMycelium]
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How do you all identify sectoring?

I’m not sure there is a consensus amongst the community and if there is I would like to know how/what everyone thinks.

How many sectors are here?


What about here?



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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: SirPsycho]
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SirPsycho said:
Arctic_Fox said:
I searched this thread but I couldn't find anything. How long does it usually take after inoculation of agar with spores to see growth / germination?


Anywhere between 4 days and 4 weeks


Oh, for real? That's bullshit. I can't wait that long.

Edit: I mean 4 days is fine but 4 weeks is ridiculous.


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Arctic_Fox]
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Truly spores do be wildin


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Re: AGAR ENVY! (Anything and All things agar!) [Re: Smellyhobbit]
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Any opinions? Bump :smile: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/28400356#28400356


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