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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
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Hear, hear!  :cheers:


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"The State is a soulless machine, it can never be weaned from violence to which it owes its very existence"." ~Mahatma Ghandi



“It is through separation that you will win: no representatives, and no candidates!”
― Pierre-Joseph Proudhon

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: SirTripAlot]
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SirTripAlot said:
Cue the "vaccine = no need for masks" crowd.



At some point it should mean there is no need for masks though, right? Not until enough people are vaccinated though obviously.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: STPLSD25]
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koods said:
:facepalm:

A virus entering your body isn’t an infection



“Infections are caused by infectious agents (pathogens) including:

Viruses and related agents such as viroids (HIV, Rhinovirus, Lyssaviruses such as Rabies virus, Ebolavirus and Severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2)”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infection

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Billy Ray]
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With the vaccine your immune system will be trained to respond quick enough to clear the virus before you become truly infected and/or start shedding and spreading it.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Billy Ray] * 1
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If it prevents replication it stops spread.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
When they say the Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective, that means it reduces the number of infections by 95%



:justno:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-08/pfizer-vaccine-s-effect-on-transmission-still-unknown-fda-says

"Pfizer Inc.’s Covid-19 vaccine prevents symptomatic cases of the virus, but it’s not clear if the shot keeps the disease from being transmitted, U.S. Food and Drug Administration staff found in a report issued Tuesday."

Stop lying koods.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: psi]
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feevers said:
With the vaccine your immune system will be trained to respond quick enough to clear the virus before you become truly infected and/or start shedding and spreading it.



psi said:
SirTripAlot said:
Cue the "vaccine = no need for masks" crowd.



At some point it should mean there is no need for masks though, right? Not until enough people are vaccinated though obviously.



Have to get boosters every three months or so, because those antibodies start to diminish.

So, 70-80% of Americans need to get vaccinated up to 4 times per year.

:goodluckwiththat:


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: HamHead]
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HamHead said:
koods said:
When they say the Pfizer vaccine is 95% effective, that means it reduces the number of infections by 95%



:justno:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-08/pfizer-vaccine-s-effect-on-transmission-still-unknown-fda-says

"Pfizer Inc.’s Covid-19 vaccine prevents symptomatic cases of the virus, but it’s not clear if the shot keeps the disease from being transmitted, U.S. Food and Drug Administration staff found in a report issued Tuesday."

Stop lying koods.




Oh serious flaw in the trials if they didn't swab regularly regardless of how subjects felt. I don't know the protocols for the trial, Bloomberg would have mentioned them if this article wasn't a tease.

Edited by falcon (12/08/20 06:55 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: falcon]
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9-0 the PA challenge got tossed.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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christopera said:
9-0 the PA challenge got tossed.



Texas is suing.

I didn't know states could sue other states.

Weird.


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The Italian researchers’ findings, published by the INT’s scientific magazine Tumori Journal, show 11.6% of 959 healthy volunteers enrolled in a lung cancer screening trial between September 2019 and March 2020 had developed coronavirus antibodies well before February.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-italy-timing-idUSKBN27V0KF

This online first version has been peer-reviewed, accepted and edited,  but not formatted and finalized with corrections from authors and proofreaders

https://www.icandecide.org/

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: christopera]
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Trump is a litigious goofball.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: HamHead]
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Good lord. The vaccine creates antibodies that will destroy a majority of viruses before they ever have a chance to infect a cell. If a virus infects a cell, these antibodies will cause the immune system to destroy that cell. It absolutely will prevent infection in most people. This conversation is fucking retarded.
HamHead said:
feevers said:
With the vaccine your immune system will be trained to respond quick enough to clear the virus before you become truly infected and/or start shedding and spreading it.



psi said:
SirTripAlot said:
Cue the "vaccine = no need for masks" crowd.



At some point it should mean there is no need for masks though, right? Not until enough people are vaccinated though obviously.



Have to get boosters every three months or so, because those antibodies start to diminish.

So, 70-80% of Americans need to get vaccinated up to 4 times per year.

:goodluckwiththat:



No no no. Jesus fucking Christ stop spreading this moronic bullshit.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: HamHead] * 1
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HamHead said:
christopera said:
9-0 the PA challenge got tossed.



Texas is suing.

I didn't know states could sue other states.

Weird.



That case looks weaker than the one that just got tossed.


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Enjoy the process of your search without succumbing to the pressure of the result.

A Dorito is pizza, change my mind.

I’m sorry it had to be me.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: HamHead] * 2
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HamHead said:
christopera said:
9-0 the PA challenge got tossed.



Texas is suing.

I didn't know states could sue other states.

Weird.



Of course states can sue other states, but a state has to show actual harm. Texas has not been harmed by the manner in which another state runs its elections. A State has the right to determine how electors are selected. If a state decided it would delegate its electors based on a roll of the dice, they could do it. Anther state doesn’t get to complain. This lawsuit is the biggest joke yet.

It’s an interesting strategy, tho. I believe the Supreme Court is the only body that can settle this kind of dispute. There is no lower court when states sue another state. They May not be able to simply refuse to hear arguments. They would have to dismiss the case, as opposed to simply refusing to hear an appeal.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (12/08/20 07:25 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: HamHead]
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HamHead said:
feevers said:
With the vaccine your immune system will be trained to respond quick enough to clear the virus before you become truly infected and/or start shedding and spreading it.



psi said:
SirTripAlot said:
Cue the "vaccine = no need for masks" crowd.



At some point it should mean there is no need for masks though, right? Not until enough people are vaccinated though obviously.



Have to get boosters every three months or so, because those antibodies start to diminish.

So, 70-80% of Americans need to get vaccinated up to 4 times per year.

:goodluckwiththat:



Youve been spreading lies for weeks dude. Lol


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: STPLSD25] * 1
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STPLSD25 said:
I mean we've already watched him lose over half a dozen times, in the time span of a month.. But hey, it's like they say, there's never too much of a good thing. Trump 2024, watch the pro-torture, pro-police brutality sociopathic dictator lose for 3 months all over again!



Biden the Top Cop are just as pro-police brutality and throw you in prison for drugs as anyone else in power. Just because Biden is appointing a bunch of minorities into positions of 'power', it doesn't mean the authoritative practices comes to an end.

Edited by qman (12/08/20 07:10 PM)

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
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The Hamhead uncertainty principle: Herd immunity is both possible and impossible at the same time.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] * 1
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koods said:
Of course states can sue other states, but a state has to show actual harm. Texas has not been harmed by the manner in which another state runs its elections. A State has the right to determine how electors are selected. If a state decided it would delegate its electors based on a roll of the dice, they could do it. Anther state doesn’t get to complain. This lawsuit is the biggest joke yet.




Total joke. Texas is saying they have standing to bring this case to court because: Other states allowing expanded mail-in voting dilutes the power of Texas voters.
Hilarious, because that is basically an admission that Texas has been so heavily disenfranchising its citizens, its elections should be considered invalid.

Lets be clear though, there IS blatant fraud, cheating, and an attempt to steal the election- right in front of us. It's all of this bullshit from Trump and his toadies. Evidence: 50 loses in court, yet continuing to say the result is illegitimate.

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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Lynnch]
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Texas has no standing, and the Supreme Court has no power to hear a case without standing.


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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: Lynnch]
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That dilution thing makes no sense anyway.

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