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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
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twighead said:
WMD or not Saddam was a POS who genocided the Kurds using chemical weapons and for that alone, he deserved to be removed from power



Imo you should always favor self-determination over imperialism

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: twighead]
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twighead said:
WMD or not Saddam was a POS who genocided the Kurds using chemical weapons and for that alone, he deserved to be removed from power



Oh yeah no doubt, he should’ve been damned to step on legos for eternity. But what replaced him was worse


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Not making a full complete stop at a stop sign is illegal, who cares. Some rules were made to be broken. I always follow the saying of "you gotta know the rules in order to break the rules.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
If your problem is with the press, get in line.



Unfortunately, the problem with the press is the problem with the American People. The press reports what the people will consume and we are a tabloid-loving, celebrity-obsessed, fluff-news seeking society. If we demanded more from the press and stopped watching shit like the fucking Kardashians, there would be no market for such bullshit.

That and we're all too cheap to buy a newspaper; we want all that news for free. So what do we get? Bloggers who spout bullshit but it's free and it aligns with my beliefs so I'm in, fuck the MSM. Who cares that they are educated journos who know that stories have to be backed up with facts. 

You get what you pay for and this is the shit we're getting because we deserve it.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Yeetusdeetus said:
Enlil said:
That case didn't involve warrantless surveillance, though.  That was all subject to a FISA warrant.



Are you referring to a fisa warrant on Snowden? There didn’t seem to be any discrepancy as to who they were tracking, which is why it was deemed unlawful iirc



Not a warrant on Snowden



Wait so I don’t think I really understand what you’re trying to say. FISA warrants are issued only for specific individuals, are they not? The NSA was tracking people that weren’t even suspected of any crimes. If he’d gone through the “proper channels” there’s a good chance he would’ve been suicided by the powers that be and nothing would end up changing


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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What's your source for the claim that he would have been suicided?  Also, committing treason to expose a civil violation is a bit excessive, dont you think?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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No source but It wouldn’t be surprise me if it played out like that

Treason against authoritarianism is true patriotism imo


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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In other words, just conspiracy bullshit.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus] * 1
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Lol tucker Carlson just claimed that the Hunter Biden evidence he had got lost in the mail.


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods] * 1
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Was it an email? :haha:

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
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Not a conspiracy, just me talking out my ass

con·spir·a·cy
/kənˈspirəsē/

noun
a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful.

However, the secret nsa spying on law abiding citizens was deemed unlawful. I guess you could call that a conspiracy

What’s wrong with treason if it’s exposing corruption?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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It was deemed unlawful by one court and lawful by another.  The Supremes haven't ruled on it and are unlikely to do so now that the law has already been changed.

Treason is a crime. A good intention doesn't justify the harm done.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Was it deemed lawful before it went to an appeals court? Because an appeals court deemed it unlawful

This shit is so stupid. If the law is open to interpretation then you can spin any issue the way you want and label anyone you disagree with as a criminal. Judges can say they’re “constitutionalists” but that doesn’t mean they’re not gonna put their own spin on how they think the law should be interpreted. Get rid of the gray zones or gtfo


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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It wasn't ruled unconstitutional.  This is why Snowden should have reported through proper channels instead of releasing thousands of pages of classified documents. As I said before, it's possible to be a hero and a criminal. One doesn't justify the other.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Lol tucker Carlson just claimed that the Hunter Biden evidence he had got lost in the mail.



What a clown show.

https://twitter.com/tuckercarlson/status/1321608055549775872?s=21


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NotSheekle said
“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
he still claims Iraq had WMDs.



I did not. Another lie from you.  I claimed they found them in Iraq.



:lolwut:

Can someone please explain?


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Lol falcon is a thoroughly dishonest debater and him saying he’s against make believe is laughable

Look at this Biden laptop story. He shows none of the skepticism he demands of everyone else.



Do you still think this is a Russian hoax?


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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Yeetusdeetus said:
Treason against authoritarianism is true patriotism imo



:whathesaid:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Enlil said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
he still claims Iraq had WMDs.



I did not. Another lie from you.  I claimed they found them in Iraq.



:lolwut:

Can someone please explain?



WMDs were found in Iraq. I have no way of knowing who they belonged to.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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:shake:


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