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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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:highfive:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
You’re voting for the most egregious liar in modern America. Nobody believes this “make believe” line of yours. It’s pretty much a running joke around here now.


The "make believe" thing is only a problem if you make believe. If you do not it is the opportunity to lay out your argument in a structured way, with supporting evidence. I am OK with that

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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Yeetusdeetus said:
Enlil said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Enlil said:
I don't recall anything he exposed that was actually illegal.  Can you refresh my recollection?


Warrantless surveillance.


What warrantless surveillance are you referring to?  Most surveillance doesn't require a warrant, so I need you to be more specific.



https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/sep/03/edward-snowden-nsa-surveillance-guardian-court-rules


That case didn't involve warrantless surveillance, though.  That was all subject to a FISA warrant.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: koods]
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koods said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
koods said:
Your political orientation is authoritarian. I just think you have terrible self awareness.


Because I defend authoritarians against make believe?  Or do you have an example?


You’re voting for the most egregious liar in modern America. Nobody believes this “make believe” line of yours. It’s pretty much a running joke around here now.


I don't know if he's voting for trump but the rest is spot on


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: bodhisatta]
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He said he is voting for Trump:shrug:


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
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I missed that specific post. But it's just another nail in the coffin


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo]
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I do not see any evidence of outright illegality in the Bubbalinski claims but defo a strong suggestion of dealings most people consider dodgy. To me the issue is not that the feds should be knocking on Hunter's door but rather that

  • Joe has now denied he ever knew of the payments which, in itself, is a story becuse someone here is lying
  • the left leaning media, happy to endlessly speculate on Trump's alleged transgressions based on unnamed sources, suddenly decided that even a named source referencing the emails the authenticity of which has not been questioned is not enough to speculate on Joe's involvement


A case like this on the other side of the political devide would set the likes of CNN alight so this is quite striking

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo]
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We're all so used to being lied to after 3.75 years of trump.

It all boils down to the lesser of two evils.  There's almost nothing you could show me that would make Trump qualify as that.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo] * 1
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I am surprised at the volume of personal hostility towards Falcon here. We have crossed swords many times and seem to be miles apart ideologically but I rate his contribution because he is one of the very few posters who answer direct questions and do not routinely change subject when pressured

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
We're all so used to being lied to after 3.75 years of trump.

It all boils down to the lesser of two evils.  There's almost nothing you could show me that would make Trump qualify as that.



That may be fine for you but the role of the press in a free country is - in general - to report on potentially dodgy dealings they come across. If the likes of CNN have adopted your stance and decided that their readers do not need to know about the dirt on Biden because he is the lesser evil, period, I would expect an editorial piece clarifying it, for the benefit of those who turn to them for unbiased reporting - including the facts which may put Bidens in a bad light

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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo]
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If your problem is with the press, get in line.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
I am surprised at the volume of personal hostility towards Falcon here. We have crossed swords many times and seem to be miles apart ideologically but I rate his contribution because he is one of the very few posters who answer direct questions and do not routinely change subject when pressured


He used to be one of the best debaters here. Sadly, those days are long gone.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Enlil said:
Do you deny that Snowden broke the law?


Snowden broke the law by reporting that the Government broke the law in its collection of data on U.S. citizens.

Do not report wrongful government activities or the government will come after you.


Lmao fuck off with this shit brother


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil] * 1
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Enlil said:
That case didn't involve warrantless surveillance, though.  That was all subject to a FISA warrant.


Are you referring to a fisa warrant on Snowden? There didn’t seem to be any discrepancy as to who they were tracking, which is why it was deemed unlawful iirc


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Enlil]
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Enlil said:
If your problem is with the press, get in line.


Don't get in line behind Enlil.  He believes whatever the mainstream press tells him to believe.

In fact, he still claims Iraq had WMDs.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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WMD or not Saddam was a POS who genocided the Kurds using chemical weapons and for that alone, he deserved to be removed from power


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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I did not. Another lie from you.  I claimed they found them in Iraq.


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Aablmd82] * 1
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Aablmd82 said:
Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
Enlil said:
Do you deny that Snowden broke the law?


Snowden broke the law by reporting that the Government broke the law in its collection of data on U.S. citizens.

Do not report wrongful government activities or the government will come after you.


Lmao fuck off with this shit brother


10/10 great counter brother


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Yeetusdeetus]
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Yeetusdeetus said:
Enlil said:
That case didn't involve warrantless surveillance, though.  That was all subject to a FISA warrant.


Are you referring to a fisa warrant on Snowden? There didn’t seem to be any discrepancy as to who they were tracking, which is why it was deemed unlawful iirc


Not a warrant on Snowden


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Re: Joe Biden? Really? [Re: Metoo]
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Metoo said:
koods said:
You’re voting for the most egregious liar in modern America. Nobody believes this “make believe” line of yours. It’s pretty much a running joke around here now.


The "make believe" thing is only a problem if you make believe. If you do not it is the opportunity to lay out your argument in a structured way, with supporting evidence. I am OK with that


Lol falcon is a thoroughly dishonest debater and him saying he’s against make believe is laughable

Look at this Biden laptop story. He shows none of the skepticism he demands of everyone else.


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