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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: adrug]
    #8819393 - 08/24/08 09:36 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

What just proves your conclusion? :confused:


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: fireworks_god]
    #8819819 - 08/24/08 11:56 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> What just proves (that politicians are lying scumbags)

Ummm... the video of Biden dissing Obama compared to Biden accepting the role of VP on Obama's ticket, I assume.


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Seuss]
    #8819958 - 08/24/08 12:37 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Don't mind him, he's got his head somewhere up near cloud 9...


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zorbman]
    #8820001 - 08/24/08 12:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I don't like Biden. He's a big supporter of the RAVE act. :thumbdown:


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Le_Canard]
    #8820629 - 08/24/08 03:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

biden introduces "barack america"


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Seuss]
    #8823224 - 08/25/08 02:35 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

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Seuss said:
Ummm... the video of Biden dissing Obama compared to Biden accepting the role of VP on Obama's ticket, I assume.




Exactly, the conclusion doesn't make any sense. Biden said "I think he can be ready, but right now I don't believe he is". Of course, this is when Biden was still running, which was, like what, a year ago? A statement from around a year ago, before the campaign really even kicked off, when he makes the exception that he could be ready, but, in that moment, he doesn't believe he is? It isn't possible that Obama's performance on the campaign trail in all of that time, monitoring and gaging how he conducts himself, and most importantly, how he manages the administrative functions of running his campaign, would have lead Biden to change his opinion on the matter, especially when he also considers the role that himself, an experienced individual who obviously felt himself capable of being President himself, would play as vice president?

I think don't think it is that much of a stretch, and I certainly don't see it as evidence of Biden being a lying scumbag. Adrug, the last I checked, this forum is debate-orientated, so why don't you pull your head out of your ass, drop the childish bullshit, and answer my question next time?
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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: fireworks_god]
    #8823366 - 08/25/08 04:33 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> It isn't possible that Obama's performance on the campaign trail i

I can't speak for Biden, but I fail to see how interviewing for a job makes me more qualified for the job that I am seeking.  I see your point, but you are really stretching.  If Biden were running against Obama today, I suspect (again, I can't know) that Biden would still say that Obama lacked experience needed in a president.

Personally, I don't agree with the sentiment.  I don't think anything can prepare a person for the job.  However, Biden said what he said, and I don't think anything significant has changed since he said it, other than being added to the ticket... thus the typical lying politician bit holds true.


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Seuss]
    #8823440 - 08/25/08 05:15 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

biden is one of those scary zionists. brrrrrr:thumbdown:


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: tomnl]
    #8823513 - 08/25/08 06:27 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> biden is one of those scary zionists. brrrrrr:thumbdown:

Roman Catholics are now Zionists?  Interesting leap.

Joe Biden is responsible for the RAVE Act (Illicit Drug Anti-Proliferation Act).  That is enough for me to loathe him and one more reason to vote for somebody other than Obama.


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Seuss]
    #8823697 - 08/25/08 08:32 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

hey i dont know man... APPARANTLY its possible.



At least HE says so!


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: tomnl]
    #8823761 - 08/25/08 08:54 AM (11 years, 10 months ago)

> At least HE says so!

:grin:  I won't be able to watch the video until later, but I trust that it is good...


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: Seuss]
    #8825242 - 08/25/08 02:23 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Is there any constitutional requirement that a president must select a vice president to serve alongside him?


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zorbman]
    #8825247 - 08/25/08 02:25 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

No.


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8825257 - 08/25/08 02:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Joe Biden is the next POTUS



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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zorbman]
    #8825259 - 08/25/08 02:27 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

The 12th amendment:

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The Electors shall meet in their respective states, and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and all persons voted for as Vice-President and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate.

The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted.

The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President.

The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.




And people wonder why Obama didn't go with Hillary as his running mate.  :wink:

Don't forget, the party system is a fairly new concept that was never part of the constitution.


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zorbman]
    #8825267 - 08/25/08 02:29 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Ok it seems there is precedent for not having a VP:

Richard M. Johnson
Served under Martin Van Buren (1837-1841)


"Johnson captured the nation's attention after he killed Shawnee chief Tecumseh during the Battle of Thames in 1813 (he later campaigned for vice president on this achievement with the campaign slogan "Rumpsey Dumpsey, Colonel Johnson Killed Tecumseh"). The country's adoration did not last.

Later dubbed "the most vulgar man of all vulgar men" by a Senate aide, Johnson scandalized his colleagues by taking one of his slaves as his common-law wife; as a result, he barely garnered enough support to serve in Martin van Buren's administration.

While in office, he proposed an expedition to the North Pole so Americans could drill to the center of the Earth, believing the planet was hollow (his resolution was defeated). Evidently van Buren's experience with Johnson soured him on vice presidents altogether — when he ran for re-election he dropped Johnson from his ticket and didn't bother replacing him. Instead, he ran alone."

http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1834600_1834604_1834620,00.html


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zorbman]
    #8825928 - 08/25/08 04:49 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't think it was possible to have a VP who's an even bigger dick than Cheney


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zouden]
    #8825959 - 08/25/08 04:56 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Nixon?  Agnew?  Johnson?  Gore?  Quayle?  Do you know anything at all about America?


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zappaisgod]
    #8826016 - 08/25/08 05:07 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

Yes I know a lot about it I just have a different definition of a "bad VP" to you


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Re: Obama picks Biden as VP [Re: zouden]
    #8826082 - 08/25/08 05:18 PM (11 years, 10 months ago)

I have to agree that in most cases an unpowerful and ignorant and/or malicious veep isn't as bad as a powerful, smart, and malicious veep.

I'd describe Biden as intelligent and benevolent from his actions in politics thus far, although his power as a veep is yet to be seen.  It's likely to more higher than average though.


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