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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Burke Dennings] * 1
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Burke Dennings said:
Centrism is strange in 2019.  I encounter a lot of centrists who, through some freak of coincidence, have all their views, ideologies, and talking points perfectly aligned with the conservative and/or alt right takes of the same subjects.



Not sure if it is the same or different in the US
but here in Canada there seems to effectively be a center left and center right comprising what the Liberals sit on as centrists
but the two wings are politically different in manifestation of ideology
the center left seems to largely ignore the further left, and have a sentiment of taking small steps forward in one policy area, then shifting and taking small steps forward in another

in contrast, the center right seems to react more to the far left and effectively serve as a mitigating force
while the far right argues virtual impossibilities, the center right effectively negotiates the "crazy leftist" positions into a centrist policy implementation
by repeatedly objecting to things until the most 'offensive' bits get stripped away

this may be why it seems like the alt-right has more flexibility in discussing their views
while the far right and center right routinely oppose the far left
it is only the far left opposing the far right, center left seems to meet most of the far right absurdity with indifference
perhaps out of expectations that the center right will serve as a moderating influence on any ideas coming from further right?

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Tantrika]
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I just don't even feel the centrist card exists, centre right and centre left yeah but DEAD CENTRE?! Thankfully liberalism's claimed much of that under a clearer ideology where people can tell the difference, being an alt right sometimes means having a loose cannon which risks being ignored, but then to slide in as a 'centrist' in hope of being listened more?? nothankyousir

It seems the far left in Canad can get good agreement only in principle but always require plenty modernisation or just being ignored in some circumstances, may well be why centre right get the most respect and the least done in their name. Unfortunately the centre right ideology doesn't stretch as far as landing policy like the centre left can. As you mention though both centre right and left largely falls on liberal land despite having clear differences, being a 'genuine' centrist only sounds like rebranded liberalism to me, could it be seen differently?

Edited by mojotoke (04/18/19 05:24 PM)

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: mojotoke]
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mojotoke said:
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It seems the far left in Canada can get good agreement only in principle but always require plenty modernisation or just being ignored in some circumstances, may well be why centre right get the most respect and the least done in their name. ...



It is also prolly worth noting that there is discrepancy between Federal and Provincial governments in Canada

at the federal level, we have never had an NDP (further left than the Liberal party, but not as far as the Greens) government
it has gone back and forth most recently between the relatively center-sitting Liberals and the Conservative party
the Conservatives are an attempt to unify disparate right values into one cohesive party to consolidate political power
but a further right branch has since broken off and taken up the name of the People's Party of Canada and appealed a lot to anti-immigration

at the provincial level tho
Liberals recently got outed in Ontario for the Conservatives,
but in places like Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta the NDP have been more supported than the Liberals
Alberta just recently came out of an NDP provincial government, and Manitoba was NDP-dominant from 1999 to 2016
Saskatchewan is under a center-right party known as the Saskatchewan Party,
but was under NDP for most of my life there, from 1991 to 2007
similarly, BC as a more left-leaning province has spent more time under the NDP since the early 90s than under the Liberals

just an interesting discrepancy between how we live and how we choose to be represented at the larger and more global scales
:cookiemonster:

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Tantrika]
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I appreciate the post, Tantrika.

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Burke Dennings]
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Burke Dennings said:
I appreciate the post, Tantrika.



:hug:

am not great for political information, but willing to make the effort through the lens of my home :lol:

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Burke Dennings] * 4
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Burke Dennings said:
Centrism is strange in 2019.  I encounter a lot of centrists who, through some freak of coincidence, have all their views, ideologies, and talking points perfectly aligned with the conservative and/or alt right takes of the same subjects.



everyone is is tugging on the overton window.  The center in America has been shifting to the left lately (see: Progress).  The actual "center"at this point is in favor of Bernie's "loony left agenda" of healthcare, a living wage, education and infrastructure investment.  This trend has been pushing folks with what were once centrist positions (see: Systemic Racism) further toward the "right wing".  In their desperation not to be marginalized, they're attempting to lay claim to the center simply by declaring it.  They had their little Obama backlash/resurgence with a trump victory, but I'm pretty sure we're close to the high water mark and the "centrists" of 2019 will recede back to the lunatic, alt-right, fringe by the time these next elections are over.

yes, i do realize that your confusion on the subject was feigned as a rhetorical device, but I just couldn't help myself

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: ballsalsa] * 3
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That was actually a really nice synopsis of the situation.  I agree with you and The Ecstatic on it.  Trying to couch alt right views as centrist is both a mask on maneuver to normalize alt right views, and an attempt to further marginalize the increasingly popular left ideologies.  I do understand why folks do it though; there are undoubtedly people who are fooled by it.  The “centrists” doing it might have even been similarly fooled.

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Burke Dennings]
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you guys think anyone to the right of marx is alt-right whatever that means these days. the left allows no dissent. thats why james watson was excommunicated. there is no debate. you just label dissenting opinion and move on and then are shocked by the pent up anger. the best way to prevent violence is through debate.

a sampling of some of the youtube political centrists i follow are sargon, shoeonhead, vee, armored skeptic, amazing atheist, tim pool, and luke rudowski. these guys sit so far in the middle theres a pole up their asses. thats what they identify as at least; as centrists. to me they are the dying breed of libertarian leftist who are alienated from both sides. they disagree with the right's views on biological racial differences/separation being preferable to conflict, and the lefts affirmative action polices. they agree with leftist progressive policies towards the POC/LGBT/wahmen coalition and with the right on  fiscal responsibility, though the economic stuff is second to culture war politics. they are at odds with the far-left's "authoritarian" moves in social media banning the anti-establishment left and right in one swoop.

what i mean to say is you dont want these alienated leftists and the right doesnt either. the only place for them is a vanilla ukip civic nationalist/turning point usa charlie kirk type deal.

the democrat party really is going to have to split pretty soon. i predict there will be a break away far left party that AOC tlaib and the rising hispanic demographic (which is going to overtake the black demographic very soon). the democrat party is full of octogenarians and not willing to address the problems of today just as much as the republican party is stuck in boomer conservatism.  most elected offiicals can barely identify let alone legislate social media.




the guy hates racism so much he hates people dating within their race lol. thats leftist to me. :shrug:


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: JHOVA] * 1
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That’s pretty racist dude


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: lowbrow] * 1
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lowbrow said:
The Ecstatic said:
XUL said:
I am not racist against anybody, unless








That was highly dishonest.




It should have been a shit lake.  :shitstorm:


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Asante]
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LOL.

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Pinkerton]
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The other day Enlil told me that all religions are a races. That is his personal belief. Do you believe that?

Now I have shown that Islamists in WWII fought with Hitler and his antijew agenda.

Does this now mean that Muslims are violent racists?

Especially considering the new wave of antisemitism from Omar.

Try not to defend racists when talking about racism.

When one dilutes the word racism, they become racist themselves.. Careful now.


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Edited by XUL (04/19/19 10:26 AM)

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: XUL] * 2
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Now I have shown that Islamists in WWII fought with Hitler and his antijew agenda.

Like I pointed out in the other thread, a mere 70000 Muslims fought for Hitler. Many non-Germans fought for Hitler.

Hitler was controversial in the Arab world and I bet you there was Muslims opposing Hitler. Some Muslims even fought against Hitler in the French Army.

Tough luck, pal:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arab_and_Muslim_rescue_efforts_during_the_Holocaust

Did you know many Muslims were pro-Hitler just for the sake of removing the British and French colonialism?

Does this now mean that Muslims are violent racists?

Some are, just like you're white and fine being racist and I'm white desperately trying to not be racist, fighting my inner white pride demons.

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: Pinkerton]
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It's okay, it was ONLY 70,000.


WOW...


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Edited by XUL (04/19/19 10:47 AM)

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: XUL]
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Jews fought for germany. A lot of them did actually. Full and half blooded.


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: XUL] * 1
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XUL said:
It's okay, it was ONLY 70,000.


WOW...



Quit foolin' around, war is never okay.

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: JHOVA]
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Omar is a Nazi bigot.

Leftists love punching Nazis.

Get to it.


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: XUL]
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XUL said:
The other day Enlil told me that all religions are a races. That is his personal belief. Do you believe that?

Now I have shown that Islamists in WWII fought with Hitler and his antijew agenda.

Does this now mean that Muslims are violent racists?

Especially considering the new wave of antisemitism from Omar.

Try not to defend racists when talking about racism.

When one dilutes the word racism, they become racist themselves.. Careful now.



You need to go further down the rabbit hole.

Look into Haj Amin al-Husseini and Khairallah Talfah. :lol:


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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: shivas.wisdom]
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shivas.wisdom said:
qman said:
I was assuming you would play dumb on this issue.

When a white assaults or kills a black, the headline usually describes the racial traits of both individuals involved, when the roles are reversed the racial traits are never mentioned. Is that enough clarity for you? 

They don't call it Fake News for no good reason.



Yes, I'm playing dumb because I want you to be explicit in your claims.

That is an interesting hypothesis you've now made. Do you have any supporting evidence for this claim?



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2018/08/28/white-cop-who-killed-unarmed-black-teen-guilty-murder/1125507002/

https://www.aclu.org/blog/racial-justice/illinois-police-killed-black-security-guard-who-was-doing-his-job

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/ex-texas-police-officer-roy-oliver-found-guilty-murder-shooting-n904166

https://www.thecut.com/2018/09/dallas-police-shooting-botham-jean.html

https://www.circa.com/story/2019/01/18/nation/white-chicago-cop-who-shot-black-teen-laquan-mcdonald-16-times-gets-nearly-7-years-in-prison

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Re: Consequences of leftist racism towards whites and forced diversity [Re: qman]
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qman said:
shivas.wisdom said:
JHOVA said:
people who dont talk about race live in ethnically homogeneous communities. otherwise you have to see the disparity between groups like this. 5 year old boy thrown off a 3 story railing and survived barely, in critical condition. no media coverage. yet the same media is out there stoking racial hostility towards non violent "nazis". no race war here. just killin "nazis" which now means any white person it seems.



https://www-m.cnn.com/2019/04/15/us/mall-of-america-child-thrown-attempted-murder-charge/
http://time.com/5570908/mall-of-america-attempted-murder/
https://abcnews.go.com/US/man-threw-year-mall-america-balcony-tells-police/story?id=62423602
https://www.foxnews.com/us/man-accused-of-throwing-boy-5-from-mall-of-america-balcony-charged-with-attempted-murder
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/midwest/ct-mall-of-america-boy-thrown-from-balcony-20190415-story.html
https://people.com/crime/mall-of-america-balcony-attack-hero-bystander-helped-apprehend-suspect/


The rest of your post isn't even worth unpacking. It must be embarrassing to be so completely wrong all the time.



There's reporting a story once and there's covering a story non-stop on cable news and talk shows, please don't equate the two completely different levels of media coverage.

Also, there's a different method of describing the demographics involved in this case and you know exactly what I'm referring too, at least I hope you do.



It's so cute the way you use the word demographics as a code word.

When I was at school the liberal college newspaper decided to stop reporting that that many of the muggings on campus were done by black men. After that the stories just said "the perpetrator fled north".

I will give you this. You seem to be smart enough to not get banned, which happens to nearly all conservatives who post regularly here. And it has nothing to do with double standards or the liberal bias of the mods. It's all about knowing how to phrase things.


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