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Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning?
#2164834 - 12/06/03 05:18 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Due to Rono's recent threat of banning me due to racism, and my lack of ability to find any rule relating to said issue in the post that HE made ascribing the rules, I think I'll turn to a more democratic method. This is my first time ever putting up a poll, so if it isn't set up properly, I apologize in advance. Do you think that the use of racial stereotypes (For example, refering to Mexicans and Negros as "Juan and Tyrone") is a valid reason for a ban? This does not mean to include flaming using racial slurs (For example, "you stupid ", mearly using a racial stereotype. METHOD=POST ACTION="http://www.shroomery.org/forums/dopoll.php"> TYPE=HIDDEN NAME="pollname" VALUE="1070756339enimatpyrt">
Should Racism Be a Valid Excuse for a Ban? type="radio" name="option" value="1" />Yes. type="radio" name="option" value="2" />No. TYPE=Submit NAME=Submit VALUE="Submit vote" class="buttons"> Also, rono, if you'd like to finally address my question and give us a working definition of "racism", with your assurance that you'll warn and ban ANYONE who violates it against ANY group of people, this would be an excellent place to do so. Thanks.
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Edited by Rono (12/10/03 10:51 AM)
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2164843 - 12/06/03 05:21 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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People that say "yes" to this are basically saying that freedom of speech should only include what they want it to. If you are one of those that rally against the PATRIOT act as being a tool to control the people that disagree with the establishments opinion, you really can only vote "no" for this. Thanks.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2164886 - 12/06/03 05:41 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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It might would have been better if this thread were about wether or not racism was an excuse for censorship. In a messageboard situation, THat could be considered trolling, or baiting. On another messageboard, it might be trolling/baiting to ask if Jesus was black.
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Edited by Baby_Hitler (12/06/03 05:43 PM)
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2164897 - 12/06/03 05:55 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- "America: Fuck yeah!" -- Alexthegreat “Nothing can now be believed which is seen in a newspaper. Truth itself becomes suspicious by being put into that polluted vehicle. The real extent of this state of misinformation is known only to those who are in situations to confront facts within their knowledge with the lies of the day.” -- Thomas Jefferson The greatest sin of mankind is ignorance. The press takes [Trump] literally, but not seriously; his supporters take him seriously, but not literally. --Salena Zeto (9/23/16)
Edited by Baby_Hitler (12/06/03 05:57 PM)
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2164931 - 12/06/03 06:17 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning?
Why?...Are you planning on spouting more racism despite being warned not to? Is it really necessary for me to make more forum rules? I only made two rules to keep it simple, under the assumption that those that post here would have enough common sense and intelligence that Racism wouldn't come into play...apparently I was wrong. I would be more than happy to create a specific list of rules for this forum that both mods agree on...we have been extremely tolerant of alot of stuff that has no business in this forum...if you want to force us to review the only 2 rules of the forum...fine, we can always add more...
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Edited by Rono (12/06/03 06:17 PM)
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2165040 - 12/06/03 07:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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If he wants to be racist, let him be racist. If that's what he believes in, I see no reason to censor it. The only damage that he'll do is to himself by making everyone realize what an ignorant bigot he is.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2165045 - 12/06/03 07:29 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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no, I think people that vote yes for this are tired of you...
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
#2165050 - 12/06/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think if he should be banned for anything, it should be for puppetry.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2165264 - 12/06/03 08:53 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think free speech should reign. People should say whatever they want to as long as it is not overly insulting to other forum members.
As an aside...would racism against white people be punished as harshly as racism against minorities in this forum?
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
#2165276 - 12/06/03 08:58 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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silversoul7 said: I think if he should be banned for anything, it should be for puppetry.
Bingo...
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#2165392 - 12/06/03 09:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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shut up richy mcwhiterson
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
#2165398 - 12/06/03 09:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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afoaf said: shut up richy mcwhiterson
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
#2165661 - 12/07/03 12:40 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: RandalFlagg]
#2166106 - 12/07/03 08:43 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: afoaf]
#2166458 - 12/07/03 12:34 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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People have the right not to be descriminated against in a public forum.. Referring to any race by racial slur's will get you absolutley nowhere.. People have names and calling by a made up a name based on a streotype is negligent.. I think that apply's to evrything including political orientation which I tend to see alot of here.. It makes me sick..
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2166948 - 12/07/03 04:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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If he was referring to any members here with racial slurs, that'd be one thing, but he's just making generally racist comments.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
#2166960 - 12/07/03 04:20 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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After reading Baby Hitler's post about banning emmigration I've changed my mind.. That post makes racial slur's look like nothing.. Just the fact that he can name himslef after a murderous dictator an then basicaly preach the same shit make's me wonder how the hell he get's to be a moderator..
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2166970 - 12/07/03 04:22 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Please see my title for response.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2166989 - 12/07/03 04:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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What an angry lil' fella.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#2167010 - 12/07/03 04:41 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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You might be surprized but racism and bigotry is generally not looked upon to be one of the more positve human virtues in this day and age..I have enough friends that have Immigrated to defend their honour when people are talking absolute bullshit trash about them and likeneing them to be pathetic and less capable of managing their destiny then someone who just happened to be born in America..
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2167024 - 12/07/03 04:47 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Methinks you completely missed the point of that thread.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
#2167029 - 12/07/03 04:50 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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-------------------- You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. What one person receives without working for another person must work for without receiving. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for that my dear friend is the beginning of the end of any nation. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it. ~ Adrian Rogers
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2167035 - 12/07/03 04:51 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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What people don't understand, is that it's not races that are stupid, but rather, it is the cultures that are stupid.
America is great because we have a superfluous superficial plastic culture. Things that happened 50 years ago are trivial in the everyday lives of the typical American. Can you say that about a typical "ethnic Albanian"? Hell no, Ethnic Albanians run around all day crying about shit that happened 500 years ago, getting all worked up about it and going on a rampage.
Cultural heritage and identity is the biggest cause of violence in the world.
The world just needs to eat a fucking cheeseburger, look at some free porn, listen to Britteny Spears, forget their ancestors and STFU.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2167040 - 12/07/03 04:53 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Cultural heritage and identity is the biggest cause of violence in the world.
Indeed, including those who identify themselves as "American."
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: silversoul7]
#2167064 - 12/07/03 05:03 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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No shit. If you identify yourself as an American, somebody's likely to start some violence.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2167071 - 12/07/03 05:05 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Or those who identify themselves as American might react pre-emptively against those people.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2167128 - 12/07/03 05:26 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rono - Looks like your ban-threat isn't that popular... wonder whythat is? Could it possibly be that what I said wasn't an OFFENSIVE racist remark (Such as using a slur, or directing the pejorative comment at a specific person) or is it just that the people in this forum actualy ahve some appreciation of freedom of speech? Freedom of speech doesn't just apply to those that agree with you.
If you'd like to continue to have me in "warned" status, I'd like a full working definition of racism, from you, so I'll know what to avoid. I'd also like to self-appoint myself head of the Witch Hunt Against Racism, and if any user here violates the definition of racism that you post, I'll be glad to alert you to it and expect you to be fair and objective in warning and banning them, you can do that, can't you little Rono?
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2167136 - 12/07/03 05:28 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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To those that think I should not have said what I did say, but still support my right to be here, I thank you. I'd do the exact same for you. If you want to disagree with me, that is your right, but give me the right to disagree with you as well.
Also, for clarification, I did NOT slander any board user or use any pejorative slurs in my post.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2167264 - 12/07/03 06:30 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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That's true, but you have in the past.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2168549 - 12/08/03 08:43 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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If you want to bring attention to yourself and create un-needed drama because of a simple warning...you got it.
You have my undivided attention...congratulations.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Bhairabas]
#2168624 - 12/08/03 09:27 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Bhairabas said: People have the right not to be descriminated against in a public forum..
People have the right to discriminate, they also have the right to not listen or read remarks made. There is no 'right' to not be discriminated against in a public forum, the closest we have to that is affirmative action and its roots are firmly set in biggotry
Biggotry is often being mistaken for racism. Can you tell the difference between Hispanic and Asian, if you can you are a racist, if you discriminate against a person or group based on color of skin or ethnic heritage then you are a biggot,learn the difference and you will find that many more of you are racists than you may have though and maybe fewer are biggots
and remember, discrimination happens to almost all of us, regardless of race, color, religon, sex or economic standing.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2168657 - 12/08/03 09:43 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Should Racism Be a Valid Excuse for a Ban?
my answer is no. but it should be noted that some people have been banned for lesser offenses.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: infidelGOD]
#2168695 - 12/08/03 10:12 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Racism and/or Bigotry have no place in an intelligent political discussion...period.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2168725 - 12/08/03 10:28 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Not that i endorse Racism but isn't racism pretty relative? I can't stand muslim and christian extremists, does that make me a racist?
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Innvertigo]
#2168746 - 12/08/03 10:34 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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it might...and Racism is admittedly a subjective topic...but my view is this...Unless it relates directly to the topic at hand, and you have facts to back it up, then don't say it.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2168765 - 12/08/03 10:43 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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the world is full of racists, many with good intentions. As with racism the facts can be relative as well. It's healthy to see a racists on this board because it validates all our impressions of that racist without having to weed it out of them. Then they are irrelavent to everyone. Everything they say from the minute they admit it is moot. I think that there should be aboot .005% of the population to be racists so we never forget how stupid they are, because society has a bad habit of forgetting their past.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Innvertigo]
#2168772 - 12/08/03 10:47 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I disagree...I think that by allowing it, we are giving the indication that it is acceptable...which in my humble opinion..it is not.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2168779 - 12/08/03 10:52 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I think that by allowing it, we are giving the indication that it is acceptable
then you are against free speech. I'm not saying i like it but i'd give it a few years and you'd forget that there ever was racism. The attention span of this comunity is aboot 2 months. Free speech means that you have to allow others to express their opinion even if it's agaist your beliefs. I say let them rear thier ugly heads and let them become moot.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Innvertigo]
#2168782 - 12/08/03 10:54 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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then you are against free speech
Perhaps I am...fortunately for me, the Shroomery is not governed by the rules of the American Constitution.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2168801 - 12/08/03 11:05 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Perhaps I am...fortunately for me
That's pretty telling.....
mind you, i was playing devil's advocate because i like arguing.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2168974 - 12/08/03 12:31 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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racism is a stupid reason to ban people. what constitutes racism? are homophobic comments covered as well? what about derogatory comments about women? what about about speaking poorly of different cultures or ethnic groups? nationalities? can we say bad things about catholics? americans? trailer-park dwellers?
Edited by Rono (12/14/03 11:20 AM)
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Innvertigo
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: ]
#2168990 - 12/08/03 12:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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only conservatives, christians and white people will be allowed to be hated on this site.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: ]
#2168992 - 12/08/03 12:36 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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You can say whatever you want as far as I'm concerned...as long as it's not a flame and it's pertinent to the topic being discussed and you can back it up with facts...
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Innvertigo]
#2169299 - 12/08/03 04:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I can't stand muslim and christian extremists, does that make me a racist?
Do you hate them for their race? Or their views, regardless of race? Not a racist.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2169433 - 12/08/03 05:07 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I hate ronoise people.
But i think we should just end this arguement and all agree that the biggest racist ever on this board was malachi.
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Innvertigo
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Kid_Orgo]
#2169757 - 12/08/03 07:24 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Do you hate them for their race? Or their views, regardless of race? Not a racist.
Sinse i don't "HATE" anything i'd say no, but i do dispise their views and actions, extremists that is. I really don't care what thier excuses are.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2169772 - 12/08/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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No, I don't think anyone should be banned for being rascist. I would however support you being banned for that or any other bullshit reason they can think up for an excuse. Edit: Post edited for offensiveness
Edited by Fiend (12/08/03 07:54 PM)
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Innvertigo]
#2169774 - 12/08/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I really don't care what thier excuses are.
He said something about you killing his mamma or something.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2170879 - 12/10/03 05:45 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I love a good power trip...
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
#2170957 - 12/10/03 10:31 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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uh huh...
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2174715 - 12/13/03 12:55 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Rono said: it might...and Racism is admittedly a subjective topic...but my view is this...Unless it relates directly to the topic at hand, and you have facts to back it up, then don't say it.
Thats interesting, so when I said that minorites had problems figuring out the voting systems, which was related to the subject at hand and, well, I don't even believe it, it's the liberals that say they were made too complicated for our prescious little minorities, why was I banned? I seem to fit every criteron that you just posted, eh?
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2174955 - 12/13/03 02:52 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Why was I banned? I seem to fit every criteron that you just posted, eh?
You were banned for flaming in the political forum...not for racism...as you well know. Stop trying to make yourself into some kind of martyr.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2175309 - 12/13/03 06:14 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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It's just odd that you threaten me for one offense (that you have yet to make a CLEAR stance on and make it so that it applies to everyone) and then a few days later I'm banned for something entirely different without a real explanation as to what I was banned for. IT's just funny that behavior that you critizie the US's leaderhsip for doing, you do yourself. Making up enemies, punishing them with new rules that you don't clarify, isn't that what you liberal-types accuse the US Gov't of doing? strange that you'd do the exact same thing ni a position of power....
I will ask for the umteenth time for you to post a rule with a specific definition of racism. I can't try to AVOID "racism" unless I know what you want to call racism. If I say that "arabs attacked the israelites" today, is that racism? Inquiring minds want to know!
Post us a definition of racism that you will apply to EVERYONE, so that I and other subversive, neocon racists will be able to avoid it. I'd also like your assurance that you'll be fair and impartial, and anyone that violates your rules will be warned and banned.
Everyone else, I've asked him this numerous times including in private messages and have yet to get a repsonse. I'm sure it's because it would be something alongthe lines of "Anything that is derogatory to non-White racial categories. IF you want to bash white people and make categorical judgments about them, thats totally fine".
Prove me wrong Rono, give us all a good definition. Since their is such confusion about "what is racism", we'd love for you to lay it on the line. Thanks.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: enimatpyrt]
#2175405 - 12/13/03 07:32 PM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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Give it a rest.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: Rono]
#2176254 - 12/14/03 05:54 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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I usually side with the moderator because they are in charge of their forum.
If racism is the only offense a member makes I do not think they should be banned. It's horseshit. I get taunted in OTD all the time because of my Native American heritage. Oh boo fucking hoo
Same for slamming homos.
People of color or people that have alternative lifestyles need a thicker skin.
That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
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Re: Poll: Should "racism" be a valid excuse for banning? [Re: luvdemshrooms]
#2176629 - 12/14/03 11:14 AM (20 years, 3 months ago) |
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luvdemshrooms said: Give it a rest.
My thoughts exactly...the phrase tempest in a teapot comes to mind. I'm locking this thread due to the fact that nobody was actually banned for racism...one person was warned, and not banned since there was no specific rule against it....Then was banned for flaming, which is a rule. Story over....carry on.
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Edited by Rono (12/14/03 11:20 AM)
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