LtLurker said:

Just saw your RW's on a vendor site for the first time. Being sold under the name "Mr. X". That's neat. Not really a fan of the name & story changing though.

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Yesum said:

Hard to follow after liloldme but I'm starting to see primordia. Lots of it.

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LtLurker said:

It's a sponsor selling kits of it only. I think it's pretty unlikely they happened to get the same cross at the same time. They could have simply started their site post before these were fully released. Pasty did say he was in communication with vendors about these. The site owner could have been part of the project before this thread and public release.

RW's are CRS X AA+
These "Mr. X" are CRS X "Moby Dick"

When you poke around the site it looks like this vendor is just renaming varieties, not "breeding new ones". There's only 1 recognizable variety on the entire site and that's gt, the rest are supposedly unique to the vendor.

I can't share the links here for obvious reasons. If anyone wants a peek at the links pm for them I guess.

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i can assure u they not just renamed cubes, most dutch headshops carry these and i have grown them out and they are mostly unique cubes with there own traits that define them, some have been round for years.

i know several sponsors that stock these and they all originate from a company called MushMush.

for example moby dick is an aa+ cross and is clearly not aa+ it grows much different and lacks the normal nipple cap that aa+ is known for and grows fatter and denser fruits, grow side by side and its obvious its not just aa+ renamed.

moby dick is a cross of aa+ and gt
i grew it when it first came out and wasnt fully stable and produced the odd  normal colour fruit but now is stable and only leucistic.

heres a pic of moby dick from one of the sponsors.



the fact it grows different to aa+ and its unstable nature in the past it can only be a cross or where does the unstable odd normal fruit come from? aa+ is homozygous to the leucistic trait so it isnt aa+
its just not possible

mustangbob3 said:

for example moby dick is an aa+ cross and is clearly not aa+ it grows much different and lacks the normal nipple cap that aa+ is known for and grows fatter and denser fruits, grow side by side and its obvious its not just aa+ renamed.

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LtLurker said:

Exactly, when I browse the site it's reminiscent of everything I've heard about The Keeper from back in the day, and still see on some of the vendors around the internet.

If someone wants to cross something up and name it, fine more power to'em. I'm not buying that a vendor site has almost all home made crosses that are identical in pheno to the regular varieties on the majority of vendors. Some of the names are even similar enough to guess what it was. It's clearly a marketing thing imo.

mustangbob3 said:

for example moby dick is an aa+ cross and is clearly not aa+ it grows much different and lacks the normal nipple cap that aa+ is known for and grows fatter and denser fruits, grow side by side and its obvious its not just aa+ renamed.

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Sounds like LOI (or possibly LGT). As far as the parentage for "MR.X" he could simply be substituting a white variety he named for the AA+ and not being accurate.

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bodhisatta said:

When aa+ is grown in conditions that kinda suck they sometimes put out normal shrooms


In fact the only time I can recall seeing normal caps come out of aa+ is on grows that are doing sad.

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It happens once in a while from genetics or it can be cause by conditions i really dunno. I just had nearly 2 entire GATZ tubs a few months back be non lucy. If you search every now and then you'll see someone with AA+ get a non lucy batch and asking "wtf happened?". It's not bullshit just look

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Caps McGee said:

Recessive mutation back to typical cube pheno

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mustangbob3 said:

Caps McGee said:

Recessive mutation back to typical cube pheno

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how can that happen if the locus position is already accompanied by the alleles for luecism, if these alleles wasnt present it would never been homozygous now would it

where would this recessive info come from? if the only coding on the dna at the loci is the alleles for luecism where can this NEW recessive traits info come from as the loci position already taken up and for it to change the genotype it must occupy the same loci point or the luecism will take dominance only was round it is mutation as it gives three phenotype options

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Noccer said:

I feel like I'm about to graduate by finally getting one of these prints.
It's coming from Fucking Austria so just a bit more waiting.

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mustangbob3 said:

leusism is a recessive trait and thats beside the point and if u say its amutation where are the other phenos as mutations are alwasyt dominant or codominant or recessive to the normal allele so you will never get 1 phenotype

Mutant gene is dominant to normal gene > Full mutant phenotype & Normal phenotype


Mutant gene is recessive to normal gene> Full mutant phenotype & Normal phenotype

Mutant gene is codominant* to normal gene>Full mutant phenotype &Phenotype different from the other two & Normal phenotype

if its a mutation they are the posibilities

if mutation is dominant >two mutant genes makes a full mutant
mutant paired with a normal gene makes full mutant
2 normal genes makes a normal

if mutation is recessive>
two mutant genes makes a full mutant
1 mutant gen and 1 normal makes a normal
2 normal makes a normal

if mutation is co-dominant to normal gene>
2 mutants make a full mutant
1 mutant gene and 1 normal makes a seperate third combined phenotype
2 normal genes makes a normal

u say leucism is a recessive mutation, then there will always be 2 pheno types possible  and you would never have a homozygous leucistic variety

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