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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Zanthius]
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Yes but “death” is an abstract concept.

The fear for “it” doesn’t mean anything, because we don’t know what “death” is.

We can only know “life” and our experiences within it.

If we knew what “death” was, we wouldn’t be “dead” but concious of it and thus be “alive”.

So we fear “life” and not “death” or  “total abscence of life”.

But that wouldn’t be possible to concieve with something like “non-existence”.

We look at dead people and fear our - living - experience of their absence.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: remake]
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:thumbup:

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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we're afraid of the unknown...death falls into that well well well well

well well well well well well well well well well well well wellll known category. :smile:

Jokeshopbeard said:
Surely hunger and procreation would be the motivations MOST linked to DA?


i'd say they are hardwired into the animal kingdom beyond the knowledge of death.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: akira_akuma]
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yes, but there is nothing to know about death, as it's only another word for contextual non-existence.
The connections from the imaginary world to an existence outside of death are too abstract and mostly unknown to really be afraid of, imho.
And they always lead back to the life and anxiety about it.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: BlueCoyote]
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BlueCoyote said:
yes, but there is nothing to know about death, as it's only another word for contextual non-existence.


Maybe we don't know everything about death, but we know a lot about what happens to the biological body when we die.

This wikipedia article doesn't seem to be empty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Zanthius]
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I'm a little come on

death is non-existence


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Ferdinando]
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maybe there's an afterlife
but that shouldn't be called death
that is respectless
that should be calle life.


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Ferdinando]
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I think there was meaning of death with my error

seemed like it

things went a lot worse afterwards

that is like the meaning of death

or so I think


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Ferdinando]
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lots of superstition and delusion about death, also restlessness and lack of confidence, naturally.


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Zanthius]
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Zanthius said:
BlueCoyote said:
yes, but there is nothing to know about death, as it's only another word for contextual non-existence.


Maybe we don't know everything about death, but we know a lot about what happens to the biological body when we die.

This wikipedia article doesn't seem to be empty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death


Are you your body?


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Love_spirit]
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Anxiety is the golden road to discovering our illusions.


Love_spirit said:
I can only understand having anxiety over something when there is a choice present.
Its totally nonsensical to worry about inevitability. There's not even a reason to think about it.


I agree, to argue with the reality of impermanence is childish. Or at the least, foolish.

For many, people occasionally contemplating death is a very wholesome activity.

To acknowledge our temporary existence is to recognize our "problems" are fantasies.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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we're always ceaselessly dying and being reborn, coming undone, pulling together again. you've all done shrooms, broo...you should know this.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: thealienthatategod]
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thealienthatategod said:
for me, the idea of living forever is more frightening than the idea of dying.  with an abundance of faith death comfortably passes through.

imagine living forever, now imagine living forever without love.  i can accept the Faith necessary to die, not so much eternal life.


Hohenheim  :yesnod:

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Blipstir] * 3
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thealienthatategod said:
. . . imagine living forever, now imagine living forever without love. 


How could you live forever without love....

when you always have the most important source of love.

Your own.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: Zanthius]
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Zanthius said:
BlueCoyote said:
yes, but there is nothing to know about death, as it's only another word for contextual non-existence.


Maybe we don't know everything about death, but we know a lot about what happens to the biological body when we die.

This wikipedia article doesn't seem to be empty. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death


What do me interest the worms when I am dead ? :smile:
That's why I added 'contextual', as I suppose we talk about the death of the 'self'.
The way we rot might come after death, but it can start even earlier... So, we shouldn't mix death with dying.
Anyways, this only shows the way towards non-existence which is called an illusion, as it is only about 'the opposite', existence itself and so this way of consideration is backward.
Of course people consider the ways of non-existence, but that doesn't lead to anywhere 'constructive'.

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: RJ Tubs 202] * 1
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RJ Tubs 202 said:
thealienthatategod said:
. . . imagine living forever, now imagine living forever without love. 


How could you live forever without love....

when you always have the most important source of love.

Your own.


thank you for the re-minder

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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: thealienthatategod]
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I think before talking about death we should start from the beginning. I mean if consider death as opposite state to life, then what life is?


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: MiracleMike]
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I dont think death anxiety happens till your in your middle age..

I for one have not had death anxiety until the age of 35(which is my current age)..


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: BrendanFlock]
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I think it depends on drugs. Some weed strains successfully produce death anxiety, when one heavily stoned. It is usually starts from hypochondria (or more precisely cénesthopathie -- french term, don't know English word for it). This is the way how my death anxiety starts when I was 30; this is the way how friend of mine face it in age 25. But I ended up with fully developed panic disorder, and he just occasionally has death anxieties when heavily stoned, or when mixing acid with pot.

But I also must say that prescribed xanax beat that shit out of me for a moth.


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Re: People really do nothing but postulate things to avoid the anxiety of death. [Re: MiracleMike]
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what is clenching anyway?
I think it is a mis-identification with this, and that leads to mis-diagnosis and wrong treatment.
clenching should be addressed by relaxing and learning how you got that way at any age.


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