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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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Yeah, burrowing your head in the sand is the new progressive way, they are gonna vote for Hillary after all, they kinda have to


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
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Bigger than his 2" spinning dick?


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Bigbadwooof]
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:awesomenod:


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I am in a minority on the shroomery, as I frequently defend the opposing side when they have a point about something or when my side make believes something about them.  I also attack my side if I think they're wrong.  People here get very confused by that and think it means I prefer the other side.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
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if it were possible. Knowingly that the third party cannot be revived during this election year. That Trump should see if Jill will join his cabinet to make sure that everything can still be green on the inside, eventhough she will not be the one that pulls the strings.. But she can be his secretary of the States or someone an Senior Advisor or anything that can help out with Trump's decision making. Trump seem like he is very easily to work with, especially since his daughter is a democrat/ green party person.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses.  I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms.  I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues.  It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see.  In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable.  Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.


it's a wonderful personal philosophy.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: akira_akuma] * 3
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The idea that the federal govt needs to be in every fucking aspect of our lives is ridiculous, they don't need to control our local school boards, zoning laws or local police or fire. The assumption they should, or even can control these issues with efficiency is nonsense



The assumption that the people can control these issues, of police and emergency services, education, zoning laws, better, without a government (which is the people, by the by) -- that's ridiculous; the government doesn't need to be in every part of our lives, but to think they aren't needed in some parts is absurd. so is having no borders.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: akira_akuma]
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Connoisseur]
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Bigbadwooof said:
He decided to be a part of something bigger than himself. A movement. You should try it.


Acting like an adult is always the way to go. It's sad how so few seem to realize that.


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: luvdemshrooms]
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So, am I the first one to be genuinely for Gary Johnson? No I don't agree with him on everything, but I'm 100% behind having an anti drug war and pro peace candidate debate. Not to mention the numerous extra advantages third parties receive in the future for getting a modest turnout.

I have no illusions about Gary winning (but then again, I thought the same about Trump at his rollout). But I have major issues with the two dominant parties and some competition can only be healthy. Freed of petition requirements and given FEC money and FCC airtime, a third party could be a real threat. It's not as if the democrats and republicans extend back to the funding of the republic


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Crumist] * 1
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I'm voting Hillary because I believe what we are trying to do is elect the next potus. Right now voting third party is not doing that. This is just reality. Thirdparty is not going to happen(this year anyway and trump must not represent the US. Stakes are just too high) and if it did could anything get through the house/senate. Having said that has anyone seen this?



Peace
Spock

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: spock]
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it's interesting that anyone is even talking about Gary Johnson.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: akira_akuma]
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why?


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Connoisseur]
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no particular reason, other than, i expect, really, honestly, expected people to just keep going on about Trump or Hilary. i'm glad that's not the case.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
no particular reason, other than, i expect, really, honestly, expected people to just keep going on about Trump or Hilary. i'm glad that's not the case.


Right now, they should focus more on Trump than any other parties. Gary doesn't has a chance of winning as the same as Jill.They never has gotten the spot light on them. No one have had the chance to get to know them, they were never a part of the public lives. Probably the next election, that everyone should start to talk about them more than the other parties, to give time for the public to get to know them. But right now, it is a trick , to get all of Bernie's supporters to look towards a third candidate instead of looking at Trump. hillary knows that they doesn't like her, and so she is trying to get them to vote for a brick in the wall just to keep them from supporting Trump.

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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Douglas Howard]
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Third party candidates are no trick and they don't need to win to make waves. Jill is further left, Johnson is further right. Your vote for Hillary or Trump in a irrelevant state has a vanishingly small impact. A couple thousand votes for Johnson gives his party concrete advantages in the future. The dominant two parties are weak this year, and this is the chance to chip at their duopoly.

Who the hell brainwashes people into thinking there are two people running for president?

I'm surprised at how little conversation there is about Stein and Johnson. I'd almost guarantee most shroomerites align with either of those two than Clinton or Trump.

DividedQuantum said:
I just read that Johnson wants to eliminate income taxes on businesses.  I don't see that as making a lot of sense in practical terms.  I would have a lot more sympathy for the Libertarian ethos if they weren't so conservative on so many key issues.  It is also unrealistic to think government can be shrunk to the level they would like to see.  In the modern world, government has a minimum size it can be, and at this point, it's rather sizable.  Libertarians just strike me as a little off-base and unrealistic when it comes to some of their policies.


The minimum size of government is none at all. In my ideal world individuals deal with each other directly and as equals, with no man governing over another. On his tax plan, it is frustrating to go to his website and see a blurb and a talking head video. Trump, Johnson, and Stein are all equally vague regarding their proposals, Clinton wipes the floor in this department. Whether she follows through is another thing. the spirit of his argument is "simplification," which is indeed a neo-con standby, but better and more realistic than the incessant call for tax cuts Trump now parrots.

Rather than eliminating the business income tax full stop, I have seen him advocate eliminating the tax on sufficiently small businesses. A business owner with 2 employees pays X% tax on taxable income to Example Inc. and then X% tax on the salary he pays himself (and the 2 employees pay tax). In order to keep the business open and food in his stomach, he requires a larger profit margin than Giganto Corp. with hires an accountant and pays no corporate tax.


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Crumist]
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*Reddit AMA bump*

Why are we talking about Johnson over in the more popular Stein thread  :cryaboutit:


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Crumist]
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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Douglas Howard] * 1
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Johnson doesnt hold a candle to Stein


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Re: The Gary Johnson Thread [Re: Connoisseur]
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Bolagna, he polls at 2-3 times what she does and was actually able to get on the ballot
in all 50 states. Stein is hoping to get on 3/4

Imo, Johnson comes off as a humble, down to earth dude who's a bit goofy. Stein s got
that hippy, liberal, I know best attitude people complain about. The MD is awesome, but the
crystal healing, anti vaxer stuff is off putting.

Johnson and Stein agree on quite a bit though, and their in the same boat (or rather treading water trying to
get into the boat) so let's be friends :grin:


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